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Reply #30 posted 05/18/08 8:20pm

dragondayz

Dance said:

dragondayz said:

Fact is, he had to see a lot of talent or potential to even do so


OR he saw a product he could market shrug

not that there's anything wrong with that

And the reason he thought he could market her is because of the talent, potential, looks and etc. Like I said before, she brought enough to the table as a product, or whatever you choose to call it, to be successful. It just wouldn't work any other way.
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Reply #31 posted 05/18/08 8:28pm

VinnyM27

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Dance said:

VinnyM27 said:

It just sort of lays there like a bored hooker!


falloff

It's one of my favoirte lines ever.
I stole it from the Julie Brown Madonna parody "Medusa Dare To Be Truthful". For years I assumed it was Julie (as the character "Medusa") who said it. However, it was the Sandra Bernhard-esque character that says it (not sure the name of the actress, but nobody "known" although a younger and very thin Donal Logue played her Sean Penn-ish ex). Julie is obviously very generous as a comedienne/writer. I just bought it on DVD. I found this great Hollywood which is slowly trying to get rid of all their videos (they have them in the rent rakes but don't advertise that you if you want to buy them, it is the same price as a rental).
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Reply #32 posted 05/18/08 9:07pm

purplesweat

Dance said:

dragondayz said:

Hmm..If so many mainstream artists came out with a Fallin, A Womans Worth, an If I Ain't Got You, a Stolen Moments, then she wouldn't be so popular. She's better than most mainstream artists, and just as good as a lot of underground artists, especially when you add in the fact that she's a good live performer. Not too many of her peers can do what she does in the studio let alone on the stage.


Are you part of her marketing team? I'm joking, anyway, Mister Keys is a packaged, pop artist. He leans on samples. He can't write. He can't sing. He can't play. He
can
not
jam
at
all.

If you stick any random pop tart behind a piano, show them a couple things, throw together some sample heavy songs with lyrics so trite they seem computer generated, slap together a few videos featuring all the tired, fake "urban" imagery you can come up with, and get the chick to do certain things in front of an audience like a trained animal, add water and a fake blaccent you get Alicia Keys.

NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH THAT. shrug
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Another unbelievably boring and generic post courtesy of the ever original (lol!) Dance.

"women suck!"

"music sucks!"

"shit hop!"

"shit hop again!"

"no one is talented!"

"did i say shit hop?"

"women suck!!"

"[insert mysogynistic, homophobic, racist, sexist etc name calling here]"

Seriously. I think it's time for a new act, Dance.

Try "accepting". You'll find you'll end up a lot happier.
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Reply #33 posted 05/18/08 9:27pm

Timmy84

Stymie said:

Paris9748430 said:

Fuck all these people in this thread. I love Alicia's version of How Come... Her version even changed the way Prince performed it. He used to just perform it by himself at the piano, now he brings in the entire band.

Props to Alicia.
spit


lol lol lol Well damn, lol.
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Reply #34 posted 05/18/08 9:35pm

Cinnie

I quite liked her version when it first came out.

Over time though I realized every adlib or decorative piano melody was copied so I mightas well grab the Girl 6 soundtrack and listen to Prince's original if I need that song in my life.

Don't really care for Stephanie Mills' version.
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Reply #35 posted 05/18/08 9:45pm

Paris9748430

Timmy84 said:

Stymie said:

spit


lol lol lol Well damn, lol.



I didn't think what I said was that damn funny. I really felt like doing this...

JERKIN' EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!!!!!
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Reply #36 posted 05/18/08 9:48pm

Abdul

Alicia is one of the only artists in what's called R&B today I'll listen to, I like her cover of this Prince cut.
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Reply #37 posted 05/18/08 10:21pm

Dance

dragondayz said:

And the reason he thought he could market her is because of the talent, potential, looks and etc. Like I said before, she brought enough to the table as a product, or whatever you choose to call it, to be successful. It just wouldn't work any other way.


Erm

The industry isn't really checking for talent. They look for the right look, story, or scrap of a story. Then they take care of the rest. It's like making any other product and Mister Keys was the right base. All they had to do was tack shit on and pull the strings. Then they got lucky. It was the right time and they had the right person and prop. They could give a damn about talent or music. They want to sell cars, clothes, food, and etc. NOT CDs and tickets.
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Reply #38 posted 05/18/08 10:25pm

Timmy84

Paris9748430 said:

Timmy84 said:



lol lol lol Well damn, lol.



I didn't think what I said was that damn funny. I really felt like doing this...



Nah, it's just the way you said it. I laugh every time someone does that tho so it ain't like you were intentionally doing that. It's just the way it sounds. smile
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Reply #39 posted 05/18/08 10:46pm

Dance

Paris9748430 said:

I really felt like doing this...




"Yo, your titty B!"

"I be from Jamaica, mon. Lord have mercy."
"What part of Jamaica?"
"Right near da beach. Boy-eeee!"
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Reply #40 posted 05/18/08 10:55pm

pennylover

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dragondayz said:

VinnyM27 said:

"So Glad that Alicia covered this Prince song"

I was about to say....You might be alone in that thinking. I think many people are just sort of fed up with Alicia Keys around here for whatever reason. I don't think this is a bad cover, but it's just sort of there like "If I Don't Have You". It just sort of lays there like a bored hooker!


I see. I was fed up with her a few months ago(disappointed with AIA) but I'm about to see her in concert soon so I'm getting excited, plus it seems like she puts on a good show. I still think she has a great amount of potential.. way too much for me to ever give up on her...but I guess I can understand how others feel towards her. I still say she's one of the best mainstream artists out.

You will totally enjoy her show. She’s an outstanding performer. I saw her here in Los Angeles at the Hollywood Bowl. She gave an outstanding performance. Alicia Keys is very sexy lady and a hard act 2 follow.
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Reply #41 posted 05/19/08 1:32am

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I like Alicia boxed

not her music, though lol
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Reply #42 posted 05/19/08 1:52am

laurarichardso
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dragondayz said:

HCYDCM


This is always a guaranteed good performance.

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For those who don't know the original song. Her cover is awful.
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Reply #43 posted 05/19/08 3:02am

AlexdeParis

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Cinnie said:

Over time though I realized every adlib or decorative piano melody was copied so I mightas well grab the Girl 6 soundtrack and listen to Prince's original if I need that song in my life.

You don't have The Hits/The B-Sides?

Don't really care for Stephanie Mills' version.

That's my preferred cover version.
"Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis
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Reply #44 posted 05/19/08 4:31am

dragondayz

Dance said:

dragondayz said:

And the reason he thought he could market her is because of the talent, potential, looks and etc. Like I said before, she brought enough to the table as a product, or whatever you choose to call it, to be successful. It just wouldn't work any other way.


Erm

The industry isn't really checking for talent. They look for the right look, story, or scrap of a story. Then they take care of the rest. It's like making any other product and Mister Keys was the right base. All they had to do was tack shit on and pull the strings. Then they got lucky. It was the right time and they had the right person and prop. They could give a damn about talent or music. They want to sell cars, clothes, food, and etc. NOT CDs and tickets.

Excuses, excuses, excuses. Like I said, If it was that easy, we would have seen a million Alicia Keys by now, or atleast a few, but we haven't. Some head of a label would have cashed in the same way Clive did a long time ago, but they haven't, and you wonder why? I'm reading in this thread where people are saying she's a great performer. Nice songs, nice voice, good performer, good looks. All of this obviously mean something and equals her success.
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Reply #45 posted 05/19/08 4:35am

purplesweat

dragondayz said:

Dance said:



Erm

The industry isn't really checking for talent. They look for the right look, story, or scrap of a story. Then they take care of the rest. It's like making any other product and Mister Keys was the right base. All they had to do was tack shit on and pull the strings. Then they got lucky. It was the right time and they had the right person and prop. They could give a damn about talent or music. They want to sell cars, clothes, food, and etc. NOT CDs and tickets.

Excuses, excuses, excuses. Like I said, If it was that easy, we would have seen a million Alicia Keys by now, or atleast a few, but we haven't. Some head of a label would have cashed in the same way Clive did a long time ago, but they haven't, and you wonder why? I'm reading in this thread where people are saying she's a great performer. Nice songs, nice voice, good performer, good looks. All of this obviously mean something and equals her success.


I'll answer for Dance :

"Women suck!"

"Mister Keys LOL!"

"Shit hop!"

"Women suck!"

wink
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Reply #46 posted 05/19/08 8:16am

VinnyM27

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Abdul said:

Alicia is one of the only artists in what's called R&B today I'll listen to, I like her cover of this Prince cut.


No love for Jill Scott or Badu?
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Reply #47 posted 05/19/08 9:50am

DirtyChris

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love it!!!

I'm on the part in
the DMSR book about
when he recorded
HCYDCMA wink
"be who you are and say what you feel
because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #48 posted 05/19/08 9:52am

Timmy84

DirtyChris said:

love it!!!

I'm on the part in
the DMSR book about
when he recorded
HCYDCMA wink


Didn't he have a little drink before recording it? lol
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Reply #49 posted 05/19/08 9:57am

DirtyChris

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Timmy84 said:

DirtyChris said:

love it!!!

I'm on the part in
the DMSR book about
when he recorded
HCYDCMA wink


Didn't he have a little drink before recording it? lol

yup lol

that was sooooo funny to me
like trying to picture it

and the part shortly after that
about the Vanity photo shoot
and his own photo shoot
that lasted hours & hours
of him exposing himself *giggle*
"be who you are and say what you feel
because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #50 posted 05/19/08 10:11am

Timmy84

DirtyChris said:

Timmy84 said:



Didn't he have a little drink before recording it? lol

yup lol

that was sooooo funny to me
like trying to picture it

and the part shortly after that
about the Vanity photo shoot
and his own photo shoot
that lasted hours & hours
of him exposing himself *giggle*


lol I could agree with that, Prince was wild back then for real! lol
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Reply #51 posted 05/19/08 10:29am

daPrettyman

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AlexdeParis said:

Cinnie said:

Over time though I realized every adlib or decorative piano melody was copied so I mightas well grab the Girl 6 soundtrack and listen to Prince's original if I need that song in my life.

You don't have The Hits/The B-Sides?

Don't really care for Stephanie Mills' version.

That's my preferred cover version.


Mine 2. Stephanie NAILED her version. It it bluesy and soulful. Alicia's was ok, but not as good as Stephanie's.
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Reply #52 posted 05/19/08 10:41am

Cinnie

AlexdeParis said:

Cinnie said:

Over time though I realized every adlib or decorative piano melody was copied so I mightas well grab the Girl 6 soundtrack and listen to Prince's original if I need that song in my life.

You don't have The Hits/The B-Sides?


Yeah I got that but Girl 6 is one of my favorite Prince mixes.

AlexdeParis said:

Cinnie said:

Don't really care for Stephanie Mills' version.

That's my preferred cover version.


Over Alicia, sure.
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Reply #53 posted 05/19/08 10:44am

theodore

dragondayz don't waste your time defending Alicia lol

Haters will be haters nod nod nod
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Reply #54 posted 05/19/08 10:45am

theodore

LOVE this song and Alicia by the way. I listened to this before Prince's and quite frankly, I like her version better nod
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Reply #55 posted 05/19/08 10:46am

Cinnie

theodore said:

LOVE this song and Alicia by the way. I listened to this before Prince's and quite frankly, I like her version better nod


yo A, when did u discover Prince?
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Reply #56 posted 05/19/08 10:49am

theodore

Cinnie said:

theodore said:

LOVE this song and Alicia by the way. I listened to this before Prince's and quite frankly, I like her version better nod


yo A, when did u discover Prince?


2005 biggrin
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Reply #57 posted 05/19/08 10:56am

daPrettyman

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theodore said:

LOVE this song and Alicia by the way. I listened to this before Prince's and quite frankly, I like her version better nod

Ahhh, the youth of this board amaze me at times.
lol
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Reply #58 posted 05/19/08 11:00am

DirtyChris

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btw... last time I watched
Girl 6... I had SO MUCH FUN
in the opening scene
singing along with "17 Days"

I was on the phone
with my cousin, and she's all
"you aiight cuttin?" lol

I was rrrrreally into it biggrin
"be who you are and say what you feel
because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #59 posted 05/19/08 11:01am

theodore

daPrettyman said:

theodore said:

LOVE this song and Alicia by the way. I listened to this before Prince's and quite frankly, I like her version better nod

Ahhh, the youth of this board amaze me at times.
lol



People being so uptight and judgmental amazes me at times too smile
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