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PrintableBlaqueKnight said: Stymie said: I'm not looking to Robin to be mind blowing or innovative. I don't know if my fellow Thicke fans do either. I just like him and like this track. There is nothing deep to it. I've been an old soul all my life. Of course I know the difference between a Curtis and a Robin. I dig his music. More than that I dig what he has to say because most of the words to his songs, I've lived. I'm not calling the guy the best thing since sliced bread.
I hear you. [b]I think the song is lame and sounds like a lot of other songs done 30 years before it. That's all I'm saying[/b] | |
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Nice summer anthem. Upper persuasion for the lower invasion | |
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JackieBlue said: So is there an album release date?
July 1st. | |
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that's it?? what's so good about this song .. i don't hear it | |
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BlaqueKnight said: R3V said: 
[Edited 5/16/08 1:18am] Let me explain. This is in the vein of pop R&B artists who either sample or recreate old soul music almost exactly as it was 30 years ago but the vocals and lyrics are watered down. John Legend is guilty of this, Alicia Keys is guilty of this, several other are as well. I just think its shit. Take Mint Condition, Maxwell (when he's got something out), Anthony David, Angie Stone or even Anthony Hamilton (most of the times). They take R&B and do something original. Peep "These Are The Reasons" by Angie Stone - the instrumentation is organic - real drums, bass, guitar, organ, electric piano, strings. That song is R&B, uses the same instruments that were available in the 70s but doesn't sound like it was made 30 years ago. Maxwell's whole 1st CD - Urban Hang Suite is another example of organic R&B that sounds new but also has a timeless sound to it. I'm just sick of that gimmick of shit like what Thicke is doing - take several old songs, replay the parts but change them just enough not to get sued, copy Curtis's vocal arrangements, knowing that because you don't sound like Curtis, soul fans probably won't put 2 and 2 together until later on and people that don't know won't know. John Legend is guilty of this shit as well and Alicia has been doing it on her past couple of CDs but especially on this last one. Its a gimmick. Its McSoul. I'm just tired of it. That's what I meant by I completely disagree with you. I think the people taking soul and R&B in a newer, updated direction are far more interesting than people like Thicke, John Legend, Alicia, Duffy, and Joss Stone. What they are doing has been done and was done much , much better the first time when it meant something. Now its tribute, marketing and sales. McSoul. [Edited 5/16/08 11:25am] I disagree with you. Angie Stone has sampled music from the past in some of her songs, so has Anthony Hamilton. So how are they any better than Alicia Keys or John Legend? I don't believe for a second that me liking this single from Thicke is only me as "a soul fan who probably won't put 2 and 2 together until later on..." thats bullshit to me. You have your own strong opinions and I respect that, but I don't think people should be critized for liking whoevers music you consider to be "watered down". I know in every conversation there is going to be somebody negative, but good grief, at least respect others opinions about music. [Edited 5/16/08 18:23pm] I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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TrueFunkSoldier2 said: that's it?? what's so good about this song .. i don't hear it
THEN.JUST.DON'T.LISTEN. | |
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theodore said: TrueFunkSoldier2 said: that's it?? what's so good about this song .. i don't hear it
THEN.JUST.DON'T.LISTEN. Thank you!!!! That's all you have to do if you don't like it, just don't listen. It's that simple. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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very nice indeed. i look forward to this new release.   | |
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missfee said: theodore said: THEN.JUST.DON'T.LISTEN. Thank you!!!! That's all you have to do if you don't like it, just don't listen. It's that simple. Totally. I don't understand why people actually go into threads of people they don't even like just to hate  It's so childish. | |
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missfee said: I disagree with you. Angie Stone has sampled music from the past in some of her songs, so has Anthony Hamilton. So how are they any better than Alicia Keys or John Legend? I don't believe for a second that me liking this single from Thicke is only me as "a soul fan who probably won't put 2 and 2 together until later on..." thats bullshit to me. You have your own strong opinions and I respect that, but I don't think people should be critized for liking whoevers music you consider to be "watered down". I know in every conversation there is going to be somebody negative, but good grief, at least respect others opinions about music.
[color=blueI didn't criticize anyone's taste in music or what they like. I criticized the industry and artists who reuse old songs to gain popularity. I said Anthony Hamilton is original MOST OF THE TIME and I don't know what songs Angie has used samples of. For the record, Robin doesn't always do it either. "Lost Without You" was a great song, was original, and will probably be his marker song (like Purple Rain is to Prince). I just have issues with people who STEAL old songs and flip them and regardless to whether you like the song or not, that's what this is. Robin had a hit but he also had misses with that Pharrell song and that duet with Lil' Wayne. Its good that he chose a new direction but ripping off old soul songs ain't gonna cut it either. And yes, it is my opinion that it IS WATERED DOWN and I think anyone who has a TRUE appreciation for REAL SOUL music would agree. When all is said and done, I recognize old musical and vocal arrangements when I hear them and they are in this song. Its been done before. If you enjoy it, fine. Good for you. If I want to hear old soul music, I'll listen to the real deal.[color] | |
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theodore said: missfee said: Thank you!!!! That's all you have to do if you don't like it, just don't listen. It's that simple. Totally. I don't understand why people actually go into threads of people they don't even like just to hate It's so childish.wow.. y'all are bein sensitive in this topic.. welcome to prince.org.. a forum where we are allowed to express our views (negative or positive) Just accept the fact that some people wont like it as much as you did.. It's that simple.. personally i don't hear anything special with this song... and trust me .. i won't listen to it again.. but i can give my opinion any time i want [Edited 5/16/08 23:46pm] | |
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krayzie said: What's up with calling folks  That's neither necessary nor welcome here. If you have an opinion about the music be it good or bad, then sing out Louise- otherwise keep the nasty, racist comments on MUTE.  | |
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It'll be a great summer song....breezy and fun.Does anyone have anymore details about the album? Tracklist? | |
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Ottensen said: krayzie said: white trash What's up with calling folks ? That's neither necessary nor welcome here. If you have an opinion about the music be it good or bad, then sing out Louise- otherwise keep the nasty, racist comments on MUTE. Cheap way of attention-seeking. He/She does it often, and you fell for it. | |
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Sounds like Paul Carrick a bit. All you others say Hell Yea!!  | |
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RipHer2Shreds said: Ottensen said: What's up with calling folks ? That's neither necessary nor welcome here. If you have an opinion about the music be it good or bad, then sing out Louise- otherwise keep the nasty, racist comments on MUTE. Cheap way of attention-seeking. He/She does it often, and you fell for it. No, Darlin', just sick of it. 
anyhoo- BACK ON TOPIC- I don't feel anything about the Thicke track in either direction. Doesn't rock my socks, and doesn't repulse me either. What do you think about it? | |
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I like Robin Thicke for the most part, but I thought this song was kindda lame and unoriginal. | |
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I don't get him? I watched him perform warm up for John Legend in the UK and he was aweful. People were laughing at him.
It was like watching Screech doing an impression of Justin Timberlake. Bad!!!! http://www.myspace.com/savage1999uk
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who remembers the ball-fondle?  "Try to remember how you used to feel about me
and think about how you're treating me now. Then try to reconcile them, if you can. But you don't even remember, do you?" | |
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  Love the song! When is the new album supposed to be out?"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: Love the song! When is the new album supposed to be out?July 1st. | |
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SoulAlive said: dag said: Love the song! When is the new album supposed to be out?July 1st. Thanks. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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SoulAlive said: dag said: Love the song! When is the new album supposed to be out?July 1st. Thanks
I'm so getting it  | |
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R3V said: who remembers the ball-fondle? 
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Meh. Doesn't do it for me. | |
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i don't like it. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: missfee said: I disagree with you. Angie Stone has sampled music from the past in some of her songs, so has Anthony Hamilton. So how are they any better than Alicia Keys or John Legend? I don't believe for a second that me liking this single from Thicke is only me as "a soul fan who probably won't put 2 and 2 together until later on..." thats bullshit to me. You have your own strong opinions and I respect that, but I don't think people should be critized for liking whoevers music you consider to be "watered down". I know in every conversation there is going to be somebody negative, but good grief, at least respect others opinions about music.
[color=blueI didn't criticize anyone's taste in music or what they like. I criticized the industry and artists who reuse old songs to gain popularity. I said Anthony Hamilton is original MOST OF THE TIME and I don't know what songs Angie has used samples of. For the record, Robin doesn't always do it either. "Lost Without You" was a great song, was original, and will probably be his marker song (like Purple Rain is to Prince). I just have issues with people who STEAL old songs and flip them and regardless to whether you like the song or not, that's what this is. Robin had a hit but he also had misses with that Pharrell song and that duet with Lil' Wayne. Its good that he chose a new direction but ripping off old soul songs ain't gonna cut it either. And yes, it is my opinion that it IS WATERED DOWN and I think anyone who has a TRUE appreciation for REAL SOUL music would agree. When all is said and done, I recognize old musical and vocal arrangements when I hear them and they are in this song. Its been done before. If you enjoy it, fine. Good for you. If I want to hear old soul music, I'll listen to the real deal.[color] I know this topic is about robin thicke but angie stone has cleverly sampled gladys knight neither one of us in no more rain in this cloud and sampled the o'jays back stabbers with i wish i didn't miss you. It's all good though because angie stone is actually a true artist and i love angie especially being from my hometown columbia, sc.  Don't laugh at my funk
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cha know, i've noticed that thicke's songs don't hold up well after repeated listenings...he creates killer hooks and melodies but doesn't flesh out his songs enough to hold up for the long haul...as much as i like the guy, i rarely listen to his albums.
i'm afraid he might end up like rufus wainright for me...a one trick pony. Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: cha know, i've noticed that thicke's songs don't hold up well after repeated listenings...he creates killer hooks and melodies but doesn't flesh out his songs enough to hold up for the long haul...as much as i like the guy, i rarely listen to his albums.
I disagree. I still listen to When I Get You Alone off the first album and most of the second album. But I can admit I'm biased. i'm afraid he might end up like rufus wainright for me...a one trick pony. | |
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