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Reply #90 posted 05/21/08 6:27am

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Is there audio available on from Wendy's show...? I was wondering, Should I check out her site to see if it's there or is the topic toomuch of a legal Hot Potato?


You’re right, Miss Jones is actually not as bad as she could have been.

I'll see if I can find the Wendy interview. I think they recently replayed it too. She talked about how people thought she was crazy when she had him on back then.

Am I the only one disturbed by the ‘keep it in the family’ stuff and the fact the one woman in particular who called up about saying she was going to the concert later on and basically how could he do this to R? She sounds like the type of woman that turns a blind eye to her own kids getting molested so she can keep her ‘man’.

Argh! See I’m getting mad again.

nod Those callers were fucking idiots. And at least Ms. Jones tried to stress that these are children and need to be protected.
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Reply #91 posted 05/21/08 6:30am

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You’re better off for not listening. Miss Jones makes me want to wring her neck. People talk about Wendy but Miss Jones is the thorn in my side. Ugh. Between her and those callers I could barely get through it but really not much different than what he said on Wendy’s show.


Is there audio available on from Wendy's show...? I was wondering, Should I check out her site to see if it's there or is the topic toomuch of a legal Hot Potato?


Wow. neutral I can barely even find a mention that he was on Wendy. Miss Jones is getting all the glory on this one. Maybe they were pulled for legal reasons.

I think he spoke with her before he made this DVD he talks about on Jones’s show.
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Reply #92 posted 05/21/08 6:31am

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omfg DAMN! They showed the tape on the FIRST day???? Now, that's starting trial with a BANG! wink But for real though, Shauna (the prosecutor) ain't playin' with his ass to open with that on a 4 ft x 4 ft screen. I bet she's a sista. lol She wants to be SURE the jurors see that's his sorry ass on there. He ain't gon' get away with the "It's not me" defense. thumbs up!
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Reply #93 posted 05/21/08 6:36am

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You’re right, Miss Jones is actually not as bad as she could have been.

I'll see if I can find the Wendy interview. I think they recently replayed it too. She talked about how people thought she was crazy when she had him on back then.

Am I the only one disturbed by the ‘keep it in the family’ stuff and the fact the one woman in particular who called up about saying she was going to the concert later on and basically how could he do this to R? She sounds like the type of woman that turns a blind eye to her own kids getting molested so she can keep her ‘man’.

Argh! See I’m getting mad again.

nod Those callers were fucking idiots. And at least Ms. Jones tried to stress that these are children and need to be protected.


This is why Wendy said she believed our country’s biggest problem is not drugs but sex abuse because it effects so many people and in so many different ways. From weight gain, drugs, promiscuity, cyclical abuse, depression, etc. problems originating from sex abuse are astounding and too often it goes untreated, unmentioned and unacknowledged. Somehow I don't think this keeping it in the family mentality and beating up on Uncle Ray-Ray or Cousin Pookie is an effective 'treatment'.
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Reply #94 posted 05/21/08 6:49am

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nod Those callers were fucking idiots. And at least Ms. Jones tried to stress that these are children and need to be protected.


This is why Wendy said she believed our country’s biggest problem is not drugs but sex abuse because it effects so many people and in so many different ways. From weight gain, drugs, promiscuity, cyclical abuse, depression, etc. problems originating from sex abuse are astounding and too often it goes untreated, unmentioned and unacknowledged. Somehow I don't think this keeping it in the family mentality and beating up on Uncle Ray-Ray or Cousin Pookie is an effective 'treatment'.


nod Exactly! Because a predator is a predator and they do not stop voluntarily, they have to be stopped by external forces.
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Reply #95 posted 05/21/08 8:02am

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You’re right, Miss Jones is actually not as bad as she could have been.

I'll see if I can find the Wendy interview. I think they recently replayed it too. She talked about how people thought she was crazy when she had him on back then.

Am I the only one disturbed by the ‘keep it in the family’ stuff and the fact the one woman in particular who called up about saying she was going to the concert later on and basically how could he do this to R? She sounds like the type of woman that turns a blind eye to her own kids getting molested so she can keep her ‘man’.

Argh! See I’m getting mad again.


nod Those callers were fucking idiots. And at least Ms. Jones tried to stress that these are children and need to be protected.



Did y'all ever see the episode from season 1 of "The Boondocks" called "The Trial of R. Kelly?" I was sitting there listening to callers on Hot 97 realizing Aaron McGruder's script from that show was so dead on it was a damn shame. So far I could only track down bits and pieces on youtube, hopefully I can find more...
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Reply #96 posted 05/21/08 10:55am

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omfg DAMN! They showed the tape on the FIRST day???? Now, that's starting trial with a BANG! wink But for real though, Shauna (the prosecutor) ain't playin' with his ass to open with that on a 4 ft x 4 ft screen. I bet she's a sista. lol She wants to be SURE the jurors see that's his sorry ass on there. He ain't gon' get away with the "It's not me" defense. thumbs up!

She probably is a sista lol

If her last name is "Jenkins", I'm too through! lol
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Reply #97 posted 05/21/08 11:18am

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omfg DAMN! They showed the tape on the FIRST day???? Now, that's starting trial with a BANG! wink But for real though, Shauna (the prosecutor) ain't playin' with his ass to open with that on a 4 ft x 4 ft screen. I bet she's a sista. lol She wants to be SURE the jurors see that's his sorry ass on there. He ain't gon' get away with the "It's not me" defense. thumbs up!

She probably is a sista lol

If her last name is "Jenkins", I'm too through! lol


Nah, I saw the woman before, she's white. lol
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Reply #98 posted 05/21/08 11:26am

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I listen to WBLS 107.5FM online, they have both the Steve Harvey and Wendy Williams Show, it looks like Wendy's going to replay the Carey Kelley interview. She's on each day 2pm-7pm EST. If there's a problem with streaming directly from the station, you should be able to access programming (including her show) from her website :

http://www.thewendywillia...reince.com

If the Kelly interview here is anything like what he said at Hot97 on Miss Jones, I think his brother has a LOT to be worried about right now.
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Reply #99 posted 05/21/08 11:27am

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A drawing of R. Kelly and his defense team looking at the infamous video that allegedly shows the singer having sex with a 13-year-old girl

Prosecutors try to prove case in R. Kelly trial

By MICHAEL TARM – 19 minutes ago

CHICAGO (AP) — Prosecutors at the R. Kelly child pornography trial are trying to link the R&B star to the videotape at the center of the case.

A retired investigator with the Cook County state's attorney's office testified Wednesday that he went to a home on Chicago's North Side in 2002 that had been owned by the singer.

Former investigator John Kelly says he saw a "hot tub room" in the home that appeared to be the same room in the sexually explicit video.

Prosecutors played the sex tape in court Tuesday. Authorities contend it shows Kelly engaging in sex with an underage girl and takes place in a distinctive room with a log cabin theme.

A defense attorney countered that Kelly had moved out of the home at least several weeks before the investigator arrived. Kelly has pleaded not guilty.
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Reply #100 posted 05/21/08 12:47pm

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A drawing of R. Kelly and his defense team looking at the infamous video that allegedly shows the singer having sex with a 13-year-old girl

Prosecutors try to prove case in R. Kelly trial

By MICHAEL TARM – 19 minutes ago

CHICAGO (AP) — Prosecutors at the R. Kelly child pornography trial are trying to link the R&B star to the videotape at the center of the case.

A retired investigator with the Cook County state's attorney's office testified Wednesday that he went to a home on Chicago's North Side in 2002 that had been owned by the singer.

Former investigator John Kelly says he saw a "hot tub room" in the home that appeared to be the same room in the sexually explicit video.

Prosecutors played the sex tape in court Tuesday. Authorities contend it shows Kelly engaging in sex with an underage girl and takes place in a distinctive room with a log cabin theme.

A defense attorney countered that Kelly had moved out of the home at least several weeks before the investigator arrived. Kelly has pleaded not guilty.



I just realized that I'm so used to hearing about child pornography and child trafficking across the pond. I'm so exposed to the issue I'm not immune to it, but rather I feel very strongly about it, with zero tolerance for the adults that engage in it. Listening to the interviews and callers that remraked on this case made me realize how much child predators have been such a hush hush topic in the US before now, particularly where families and friends are concerned. I think this case is really going to bring the topic of child pornography into America's pop consciouness in a way we haven't seen before.
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Reply #101 posted 05/21/08 1:43pm

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Witness in R. Kelly trial IDs alleged victim

By MICHAEL TARM, Associated Press Writer 4 minutes ago

CHICAGO - A childhood friend of the alleged victim in the R. Kelly child pornography case said she recognizes her longtime friend as the one in the explicit video at the center of the case.

Simha Jamison testified Wednesday that she and the alleged victim were best friends for about ten years until their junior year in high school.

Jamison, 24, said she and her friend visited the R&B star at his recording studio and at a Chicago basketball court dozens of times starting when they were about 12.

They also visited the home where authorities say the sex tape was filmed, she said.

Defense attorneys plan to cross-examine Jamison.

Kelly has pleaded not guilty to charges that accuse him of videotaping himself having sex with an underaged girl.
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Reply #102 posted 05/21/08 2:15pm

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Witness in R. Kelly trial IDs alleged victim

By MICHAEL TARM, Associated Press Writer 4 minutes ago

CHICAGO - A childhood friend of the alleged victim in the R. Kelly child pornography case said she recognizes her longtime friend as the one in the explicit video at the center of the case.

Simha Jamison testified Wednesday that she and the alleged victim were best friends for about ten years until their junior year in high school.

Jamison, 24, said she and her friend visited the R&B star at his recording studio and at a Chicago basketball court dozens of times starting when they were about 12.

They also visited the home where authorities say the sex tape was filmed, she said.

Defense attorneys plan to cross-examine Jamison.

Kelly has pleaded not guilty to charges that accuse him of videotaping himself having sex with an underaged girl.


...the F*** are 12 year olds randomly visiting a grown ass man in a studio for..? hmm
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Reply #103 posted 05/21/08 2:18pm

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Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:


She probably is a sista lol

If her last name is "Jenkins", I'm too through! lol


Nah, I saw the woman before, she's white. lol


Oh okay, you sure can't tell by names no mo'. lol White folks done got as soulful as us. wink
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Reply #104 posted 05/21/08 2:18pm

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Witness in R. Kelly trial IDs alleged victim

By MICHAEL TARM, Associated Press Writer 4 minutes ago

CHICAGO - A childhood friend of the alleged victim in the R. Kelly child pornography case said she recognizes her longtime friend as the one in the explicit video at the center of the case.

Simha Jamison testified Wednesday that she and the alleged victim were best friends for about ten years until their junior year in high school.

Jamison, 24, said she and her friend visited the R&B star at his recording studio and at a Chicago basketball court dozens of times starting when they were about 12.

They also visited the home where authorities say the sex tape was filmed, she said.

Defense attorneys plan to cross-examine Jamison.

Kelly has pleaded not guilty to charges that accuse him of videotaping himself having sex with an underaged girl.


...the F*** are 12 year olds randomly visiting a grown ass man in a studio for..? hmm


I was asking that same question in my mind.
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Reply #105 posted 05/21/08 2:19pm

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SCNDLS said:

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Nah, I saw the woman before, she's white. lol


Oh okay, you sure can't tell by names no mo'. lol White folks done got as soulful as us. wink


nod giggle
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Reply #106 posted 05/21/08 2:21pm

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Timmy84 said:

Witness in R. Kelly trial IDs alleged victim

By MICHAEL TARM, Associated Press Writer 4 minutes ago

CHICAGO - A childhood friend of the alleged victim in the R. Kelly child pornography case said she recognizes her longtime friend as the one in the explicit video at the center of the case.

Simha Jamison testified Wednesday that she and the alleged victim were best friends for about ten years until their junior year in high school.

Jamison, 24, said she and her friend visited the R&B star at his recording studio and at a Chicago basketball court dozens of times starting when they were about 12.

They also visited the home where authorities say the sex tape was filmed, she said.

Defense attorneys plan to cross-examine Jamison.

Kelly has pleaded not guilty to charges that accuse him of videotaping himself having sex with an underaged girl.


...the F*** are 12 year olds randomly visiting a grown ass man in a studio for..? hmm


For real confused But don't forget that the girl on the tape is Sparkle's niece, who was working with AND fucking Kelly at the time. So it's conceivable that the girl and her lil friends could be around. In theory. . . confused

But that's his ass right thurr. . . let's hope beg
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Reply #107 posted 05/21/08 2:30pm

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SCNDLS said:

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...the F*** are 12 year olds randomly visiting a grown ass man in a studio for..? hmm


For real confused But don't forget that the girl on the tape is Sparkle's niece, who was working with AND fucking Kelly at the time. So it's conceivable that the girl and her lil friends could be around. In theory. . . confused

But that's his ass right thurr. . . let's hope beg
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I actually think Sparkle was as guilty to let her niece fuck around with R. Kelly. The reason the girl won't testify is because she feels that the sex was consensual and he's still sending her and her parents - allegedly - money just so they could keep "denying" that she was on the tape if the girl knew how she and Rob looked back then.

I bet the defense will ask about why she knew too much and why didn't she tell authorities BACK THEN, she'll probably say Robert paid her to shut up too. And also ask if she saw R. Kelly's supposed mole that is supposed to determine whether or not Sylvester was on the tape.
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Reply #108 posted 05/21/08 2:56pm

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I listen to WBLS 107.5FM online, they have both the Steve Harvey and Wendy Williams Show, it looks like Wendy's going to replay the Carey Kelley interview. She's on each day 2pm-7pm EST. If there's a problem with streaming directly from the station, you should be able to access programming (including her show) from her website :

http://www.thewendywillia...reince.com

If the Kelly interview here is anything like what he said at Hot97 on Miss Jones, I think his brother has a LOT to be worried about right now.



She just confirmed that she's going to play it tomorrow. The interview is 4 years old!
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Reply #109 posted 05/21/08 2:57pm

Timmy84

JackieBlue said:

Ottensen said:

I listen to WBLS 107.5FM online, they have both the Steve Harvey and Wendy Williams Show, it looks like Wendy's going to replay the Carey Kelley interview. She's on each day 2pm-7pm EST. If there's a problem with streaming directly from the station, you should be able to access programming (including her show) from her website :

http://www.thewendywillia...reince.com

If the Kelly interview here is anything like what he said at Hot97 on Miss Jones, I think his brother has a LOT to be worried about right now.



She just confirmed that she's going to play it tomorrow. The interview is 4 years old!


It'll be nice to get a transcript, lol. Sometimes I forget when these things occur.
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Reply #110 posted 05/21/08 2:59pm

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Timmy84 said:

SCNDLS said:



For real confused But don't forget that the girl on the tape is Sparkle's niece, who was working with AND fucking Kelly at the time. So it's conceivable that the girl and her lil friends could be around. In theory. . . confused

But that's his ass right thurr. . . let's hope beg
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I actually think Sparkle was as guilty to let her niece fuck around with R. Kelly. The reason the girl won't testify is because she feels that the sex was consensual and he's still sending her and her parents - allegedly - money just so they could keep "denying" that she was on the tape if the girl knew how she and Rob looked back then.

I bet the defense will ask about why she knew too much and why didn't she tell authorities BACK THEN, she'll probably say Robert paid her to shut up too. And also ask if she saw R. Kelly's supposed mole that is supposed to determine whether or not Sylvester was on the tape.


lol Sylvester
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Reply #111 posted 05/21/08 3:00pm

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Todays Testimony

Identity
The BFF of the alleged sex tape victim said that is her childhood friend. Simha Jamison said she and the girl grew up together and stayed friends until they were about 18. She said her friend called Kelly her godfather. He gave her money and they would visit him at the gym and studio as well as his home. She said Kelly never did anything inappropiate to her friend when they were together. But she said that was her friend on the at around 13 or 14 years old. She said kids made copies of the tape when they were in high school. Both girls were born in 1984. The two no longer speak. An aunt and uncle just testified that the girl in the tape is thei niece. The family says they knew Kelly.
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Reply #112 posted 05/21/08 3:01pm

Timmy84

Damn, Banks, you faster than I am! lol
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Reply #113 posted 05/21/08 3:02pm

Timmy84

banks said:

Todays Testimony

Identity
The BFF of the alleged sex tape victim said that is her childhood friend. Simha Jamison said she and the girl grew up together and stayed friends until they were about 18. She said her friend called Kelly her godfather. He gave her money and they would visit him at the gym and studio as well as his home. She said Kelly never did anything inappropiate to her friend when they were together. But she said that was her friend on the at around 13 or 14 years old. She said kids made copies of the tape when they were in high school. Both girls were born in 1984. The two no longer speak. An aunt and uncle just testified that the girl in the tape is thei niece. The family says they knew Kelly.


The bold statement could mean what she told the defense. The last few sentences only tell me one thing: the aunt (Sparkle) just testified!
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Reply #114 posted 05/21/08 3:04pm

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Damn, Banks, you faster than I am! lol
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I'm taking care of ya thread bro wink
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Reply #115 posted 05/21/08 3:07pm

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banks said:

Timmy84 said:

Damn, Banks, you faster than I am! lol
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I'm taking care of ya thread bro wink


I know, that's what's up! Thanks! thumbs up!
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Reply #116 posted 05/21/08 3:12pm

Timmy84

Oh shit, we finally got a name to the girl - ROSHONA LANDFAIR:

REUTERS:

Witness says R. Kelly, girl were in sex tape

By Andrew Stern

CHICAGO (Reuters) - R&B superstar R. Kelly and a girl who described him as her godfather and was about 13 or 14 are the two people on a pornographic tape Kelly is accused of making, the girl's former best friend testified on Wednesday.

Simha Jamison, now 24, said in the second full day of the Grammy Award-winning artist's trial that she recognized her friend Roshona Landfair on the videotape from her face and from a "mullet" haircut the two girls had gotten together.

"I saw (the tape) in late February 2002," said Jamison, a Chicago hair stylist.

"Who did you believe was the female on that tape?" asked prosecutor Shauna Boliker of the Cook County state's attorney's office.

"I believed it was my best friend, Roshona," she replied.

And the man on the tape, which Jamison was shown again on Wednesday before court?

"Her godfather, R. Kelly," she said, explaining that's how Roshona had introduced the singer.

Kelly is charged with 14 counts of videotaping, producing or soliciting child pornography with a 26-minute tape featuring oral sex, masturbation and other explicit acts. If convicted of all charges, the 41-year-old performer, whose given name is Robert Kelly, could be sentenced to up to 15 years in prison.

His lawyers said earlier in the trial that the two people on the tape are not Kelly or the girl, identified by prosecutors earlier in court as Landfair, now in her 20s. She also contends she is not on the tape and has refused to testify for the prosecution.

Jamison said Kelly would give Landfair "not less that $100 ... no more than $500" in cash to go shopping. They had met Kelly at Hoops, a basketball gym in Chicago, accompanied by Landfair's parents when the girls were "about 12," she said.

She said she estimated Roshona's age on the tape at 13 or 14. Prosecutors have said the tape was made between January 1998 and November 2000, when the girl was 13 or 14.

Jamison said the two girls would do "nothing" on a dozen visits to Kelly's Chicago studio, "Tracks," while he did "recording stuff."

Landfair would often stay on after Jamison went home, she added. The two girls later broke off their friendship, she said, though she did not explain why.

Jamison also identified photos of Kelly's since-sold Chicago house and its log-cabin style sauna room where prosecutors say the tape was made, and which is a setting visible on the video.

Despite the charges lodged against him six years ago, Kelly has earned millions from concert tours and album sales while free on bond. After early 1990s hits such as "Sex Me" and "Bump n' Grind," Kelly won three Grammy Awards for his 1996 single "I Believe I Can Fly," and has scored 20 other Grammy nominations.

(Writing by Michael Conlon; editing by Peter Bohan and Vicki Allen)
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Reply #117 posted 05/21/08 3:27pm

Timmy84

OMG, I love this girl:

Jamison remained insistent under tough cross-examination later in the day from defense attorney Sam Adam Jr.

Adam said the reason the alleged victim never told the witness she was having a sexual relationship with Kelly was because there wasn't one and "because it's not her on the tape."

"Are you asking or telling me?" Jamison shot back.

During the cross-examination, the defense also revealed their strategy may be to suggest Kelly's image was computer-generated. "Something could have been done to put a different head on that body," Adam said. He also referred to movies where characters had been digitally altered.

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OH NOW THEY WANNA SAY HIS FACE WAS DIGITALLY ALTERED!?! Which is it? A mole or a computer-generated image?! lol
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Reply #118 posted 05/21/08 3:30pm

Timmy84

Here's what that same girl's (the one who testified) father said:

Jamison's father, Peter Thomas, testified that the alleged victim's involvement in the video was the talk of their neighborhood. When his daughter heard about it in 2002, he said she would cry herself to sleep but wouldn't discuss it.

He watched the video for the first time before testifying Wednesday and identified the girl, guessing that she must have been about 14 or 15 in the video.
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Reply #119 posted 05/21/08 5:32pm

Timmy84

MORE FROM ESSENCE:

I wonder what the Edwards family meeting was like.

On Wednesday an uncle and his ex-wife testified that their niece is the one having sex with R. Kelly in the sex tape. They said a family meeting was convened upon discovery in December 2001. The contents of that meeting could not be discussed in court. This is the family of Stephanie "Sparkle" Edwards who is the aunt of the alleged victim. Police did not receive the videotape until February 2002.

The defense lambasted that decision. They accused the family of trying to extort money from Kelly because Sparkle's singing contract was terminated by Kelly. Plus they say the video is fake. The defense asked the ex-wife why she didn't go to the police. She is a Chicago police officer. She said the girl's parents didn't want to cooperate.

falloff at "the video's fake" then why were you trying to prove that the man in the tape didn't have a mole on Tuesday? wink
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