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R. Kelly Trial to Start (Tomorrow)

After six years of repeated delays, the R&B star R. Kelly is to stand trial on child pornography charges; jury selection will begin on Friday in Chicago, The Associated Press reported. Contributing to the delays were more than 30 pretrial motions, the multiple fractures suffered by Judge Vincent Gaughan in a fall from a ladder at home and Mr. Kelly’s emergency surgery for a ruptured appendix. Mr. Kelly, 41, was indicted on June 5, 2002, after the appearance of a videotape police and prosecutors say shows him having sex with a girl as young as 13. But the woman identified as the victim says she is not the one in the video. Mr. Kelly, a Grammy Award winner who has settled three lawsuits accusing him of having sex with under-age girls, faces as many as 15 years in prison if convicted. The judge has ruled that the videotape may be shown in open court.

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Reply #1 posted 05/08/08 2:36pm

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R. Kelly trial judge hints jury selection will start Friday
Gaughan suggests defense will not be granted another delay

By Stacy St. Clair | Tribune reporter
2:13 PM CDT, May 8, 2008

R. Kelly shouldn't count on getting his child pornography trial delayed.

During court proceedings Thursday, Cook County Judge Vincent Gaughan made repeated references to jury selection beginning Friday as planned. On more than one occasion, he told lawyers in other cases that his calendar would be filled for the next several weeks.

"We're starting a pretty big trial tomorrow [Friday]," he said. "It looks like we are."

The R&B superstar's defense team filed a motion Wednesday asking Gaughan to shelve the trial temporarily because of "a torrent of publicity surrounding the case." The motion, which is being kept under seal, cites recent media coverage of the judge's decision to allow a woman to testify that she had a three-way sexual encounter with Kelly and the girl shown in the videotape at the center of the case.

The singer, whose name is Robert Kelly, faces child pornography charges stemming from a 15-minute videotape that law-enforcement officials say was made between Jan. 1, 1998, and Nov. 1, 2000. Kelly has pleaded not guilty to the charges.

The judge gave the prosecution until Friday morning to respond, but courthouse activity Thursday seemed to suggest the trial would proceed. Law-enforcement personnel did their final security walk-through, while courtroom benches were restained and press credentials continued to be issued.

In anticipation of the trial, officials have summoned 150 Cook County residents to serve as potential jurors. The candidates will be ushered into the courtroom Friday morning, where they will listen to the charges against Kelly and fill out questionnaires. The actual selection process will not begin until Monday.

Kelly's attorneys want to delay the trial because of newspaper reports Sunday that included information about secret hearings on whether the woman involved in the threesome could testify. Gaughan had closed the proceedings and later said the secrecy was to preserve Kelly's right to a fair trial and prevent the jury pool from becoming tainted.

With salacious details from the private sessions now available for public consumption, the judge may be hard-pressed to explain how the damaging information no longer infringes on Kelly's rights, experts said.

Several news agencies—including the Tribune, Sun-Times, Associated Press and Chicago Public Radio station WBEZ—filed a legal challenge to the secret proceedings and requested transcripts from those hearings. During arguments on the matter Thursday, media attorney Damon Dunn said the defense request for a delay wouldn't have occurred if Gaughan had kept the proceedings open in the first place.

"The publicity wouldn't have happened over the weekend," Dunn said. "The publicity would have been in March and Mr. [Kelly's defense team] would have had a chance to respond in open court."

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I just hope for R&B's sake that the judge does NOT allow the defense a chance to get their way again. But it looks like it's going to go on.
[Edited 5/8/08 14:36pm]
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Reply #2 posted 05/08/08 2:39pm

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I nominate myself to be on the jury!
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Reply #3 posted 05/08/08 2:46pm

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bboy87 said:

I nominate myself to be on the jury!


lol You wouldn't be alone. Most of the ORG would wanna be jury members.
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Reply #4 posted 05/08/08 2:59pm

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It's about fuckin time.
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Reply #5 posted 05/08/08 3:29pm

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musicjunky318 said:

It's about fuckin time.

u got that right lol
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Reply #6 posted 05/08/08 3:46pm

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I wonder how many albums he will release DURING the trial...
I also have a very bad feeling, R. Kelly won't end up in jail for this. He will probably get off and people will compare him, UNFAIRLY and UNJUSTLY to MJ. Makes me pissed just thinking about it!!! mad mad
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Reply #7 posted 05/08/08 4:01pm

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Vanilli said:

I wonder how many albums he will release DURING the trial...

meh. he'll just find a way to incorporate it into that "trapped in the closet" shit and make more chapters outta this. ill
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Reply #8 posted 05/08/08 4:10pm

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BSK3478 said:

Vanilli said:

I wonder how many albums he will release DURING the trial...

meh. he'll just find a way to incorporate it into that "trapped in the closet" shit and make more chapters outta this. ill


From the courtroom? confused
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Reply #9 posted 05/08/08 4:13pm

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Timmy84 said:

BSK3478 said:


meh. he'll just find a way to incorporate it into that "trapped in the closet" shit and make more chapters outta this. ill


From the courtroom? confused


Hopefully from a jail cell. If there's a God that nucca will have to call in his vocals from a jail cell like Shyne. pray
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Reply #10 posted 05/08/08 4:17pm

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SCNDLS said:

Timmy84 said:



From the courtroom? confused


Hopefully from a jail cell. If there's a God that nucca will have to call in his vocals from a jail cell like Shyne. pray


That would only send him to solitary confinement. Inmates wouldn't take all of that yelling about guns and shit from another person's cell. In other words, they'd had to tie the motherfucker and put him in a mental ward. Then we can have his new hit, "Trapped in the Confinement".
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Reply #11 posted 05/08/08 4:31pm

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Timmy84 said:

SCNDLS said:



Hopefully from a jail cell. If there's a God that nucca will have to call in his vocals from a jail cell like Shyne. pray


That would only send him to solitary confinement. Inmates wouldn't take all of that yelling about guns and shit from another person's cell. In other words, they'd had to tie the motherfucker and put him in a mental ward. Then we can have his new hit, "Trapped in the Confinement".


nod falloff
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Reply #12 posted 05/08/08 4:51pm

BSK3478

SCNDLS said:

Timmy84 said:



From the courtroom? confused


Hopefully from a jail cell. If there's a God that nucca will have to call in his vocals from a jail cell like Shyne. pray

amen. pray
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Reply #13 posted 05/08/08 4:52pm

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Timmy84 said:

That would only send him to solitary confinement. Inmates wouldn't take all of that yelling about guns and shit from another person's cell. In other words, they'd had to tie the motherfucker and put him in a mental ward. Then we can have his new hit, "Trapped in the Confinement".

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Timmy84 said:

SCNDLS said:



Hopefully from a jail cell. If there's a God that nucca will have to call in his vocals from a jail cell like Shyne. pray


That would only send him to solitary confinement. Inmates wouldn't take all of that yelling about guns and shit from another person's cell. In other words, they'd had to tie the motherfucker and put him in a mental ward. Then we can have his new hit, "Trapped in the Confinement".

More like "Trapped in the Shower" or "Trapped in Big Ray's cell" evillol
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Reply #15 posted 05/08/08 5:03pm

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bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:



That would only send him to solitary confinement. Inmates wouldn't take all of that yelling about guns and shit from another person's cell. In other words, they'd had to tie the motherfucker and put him in a mental ward. Then we can have his new hit, "Trapped in the Confinement".

More like "Trapped in the Shower" or "Trapped in Big Ray's cell" evillol


"Trapped in Big Bubba's Snake". Hey he did have a song called "Snake", now. wink
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Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:


More like "Trapped in the Shower" or "Trapped in Big Ray's cell" evillol


"Trapped in Big Bubba's Snake". Hey he did have a song called "Snake", now. wink



I think you mean Trapped On Big Bubba's Snake(ooh i like it) the Debarge mix
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Reply #17 posted 05/08/08 5:17pm

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This is excellent news. Time to but the Pied Piper of Dog Shit to trial so his lame ass can FINALLY see a jail cell! woot!!
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Reply #18 posted 05/08/08 5:20pm

Timmy84

banks said:

Timmy84 said:



"Trapped in Big Bubba's Snake". Hey he did have a song called "Snake", now. wink



I think you mean Trapped On Big Bubba's Snake(ooh i like it) the Debarge mix


evillol nod
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Reply #19 posted 05/08/08 5:22pm

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R. Kelly shouldn't count on getting his child pornography trial delayed.


spit 6 fuckin' years later and a columnist had the NEVER to write that shit?

And plus, had them girls been white - His ass woulda went to trial 3 days after the tape come out. Then the trial would've taken 1 week. And his ass woulda been in jail for 5 years already.
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Reply #20 posted 05/08/08 5:23pm

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banks said:

After six years of repeated delays, the R&B star R. Kelly is to stand trial on child pornography charges; jury selection will begin on Friday in Chicago, The Associated Press reported. Contributing to the delays were more than 30 pretrial motions, the multiple fractures suffered by Judge Vincent Gaughan in a fall from a ladder at home and Mr. Kelly’s emergency surgery for a ruptured appendix. Mr. Kelly, 41, was indicted on June 5, 2002, after the appearance of a videotape police and prosecutors say shows him having sex with a girl as young as 13. But the woman identified as the victim says she is not the one in the video. Mr. Kelly, a Grammy Award winner who has settled three lawsuits accusing him of having sex with under-age girls, faces as many as 15 years in prison if convicted. The judge has ruled that the videotape may be shown in open court.

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Only 13?
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Reply #21 posted 05/08/08 5:33pm

Timmy84

MuthaFunka said:

R. Kelly shouldn't count on getting his child pornography trial delayed.


spit 6 fuckin' years later and a columnist had the NEVER to write that shit?

And plus, had them girls been white - His ass woulda went to trial 3 days after the tape come out. Then the trial would've taken 1 week. And his ass woulda been in jail for 5 years already.


Or if he had been a broke black teenager on the way to college, had consensual sex with a girl only two years younger than him and both of them were underage and he gets sentenced to ten years for statutory rape before they finally came to their senses and finally released him and NOW he's on his way to Morehouse when he could've been there already.

See how our justice system is?
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Reply #22 posted 05/08/08 5:39pm

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Timmy84 said:

MuthaFunka said:



spit 6 fuckin' years later and a columnist had the NEVER to write that shit?

And plus, had them girls been white - His ass woulda went to trial 3 days after the tape come out. Then the trial would've taken 1 week. And his ass woulda been in jail for 5 years already.


Or if he had been a broke black teenager on the way to college, had consensual sex with a girl only two years younger than him and both of them were underage and he gets sentenced to ten years for statutory rape before they finally came to their senses and finally released him and NOW he's on his way to Morehouse when he could've been there already.




See how our justice system is?



that was fucked up what they did to that kid... and they only had oral sex...
[Edited 5/8/08 17:40pm]
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Reply #23 posted 05/08/08 6:07pm

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Timmy84 said:

MuthaFunka said:



spit 6 fuckin' years later and a columnist had the NEVER to write that shit?

And plus, had them girls been white - His ass woulda went to trial 3 days after the tape come out. Then the trial would've taken 1 week. And his ass woulda been in jail for 5 years already.


Or if he had been a broke black teenager on the way to college, had consensual sex with a girl only two years younger than him and both of them were underage and he gets sentenced to ten years for statutory rape before they finally came to their senses and finally released him and NOW he's on his way to Morehouse when he could've been there already.

See how our justice system is?


Yep!
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Reply #24 posted 05/08/08 6:12pm

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Timmy84 said:

R. Kelly trial judge hints jury selection will start Friday
By Stacy St. Clair | Tribune reporter
2:13 PM CDT, May 8, 2008

The R&B superstar's defense team filed a motion Wednesday asking Gaughan to shelve the trial temporarily because of "a torrent of publicity surrounding the case." The motion, which is being kept under seal, cites recent media coverage of the judge's decision to allow a woman to testify that she had a three-way sexual encounter with Kelly and the girl shown in the videotape at the center of the case.[/b]


Every celebrity could make this "torrent of publicity" argument.

The defense is just hoping to delay things long enough that no one remains who cares or wants to remember what they did 20 years ago as a child!

And to already be delayed for 6 years, you need lots and lots of money and or influence.
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Reply #25 posted 05/08/08 6:51pm

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Brendan said:

Timmy84 said:

R. Kelly trial judge hints jury selection will start Friday
By Stacy St. Clair | Tribune reporter
2:13 PM CDT, May 8, 2008

The R&B superstar's defense team filed a motion Wednesday asking Gaughan to shelve the trial temporarily because of "a torrent of publicity surrounding the case." The motion, which is being kept under seal, cites recent media coverage of the judge's decision to allow a woman to testify that she had a three-way sexual encounter with Kelly and the girl shown in the videotape at the center of the case.[/b]


Every celebrity could make this "torrent of publicity" argument.

The defense is just hoping to delay things long enough that no one remains who cares or wants to remember what they did 20 years ago as a child!

And to already be delayed for 6 years, you need lots and lots of money and or influence.


Money can make you do some stupid things.
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Reply #26 posted 05/08/08 7:02pm

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Timmy84 said:

Brendan said:



Every celebrity could make this "torrent of publicity" argument.

The defense is just hoping to delay things long enough that no one remains who cares or wants to remember what they did 20 years ago as a child!

And to already be delayed for 6 years, you need lots and lots of money and or influence.


Money can make you do some stupid things.


Exactly. And on both sides (the justice system and those who are charged with a crime).

And if your poor, or even worse, poor and without much influence (minorities), guilt or innocence is probably going to be the least of your concerns.
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Reply #27 posted 05/08/08 7:07pm

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Brendan said:

Timmy84 said:



Money can make you do some stupid things.


Exactly. And on both sides (the justice system and those who are charged with a crime).

And if your poor, or even worse, poor and without much influence (minorities), guilt or innocence is probably going to be the least of your concerns.


So damn true. They don't give a damn about the common folk but they're more careful with folks who got money. rolleyes
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Reply #28 posted 05/08/08 7:58pm

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Timmy84 said:



Or if he had been a broke black teenager on the way to college, had consensual sex with a girl only two years younger than him and both of them were underage and he gets sentenced to ten years for statutory rape before they finally came to their senses and finally released him and NOW he's on his way to Morehouse when he could've been there already.




See how our justice system is?



that was fucked up what they did to that kid... and they only had oral sex...
[Edited 5/8/08 17:40pm]


That kid participated in gang rape.

They couldn't get him on that because like a lot of victims the girl just wanted to forget it happened and was also dealing with pressure and threats.

So instead they went after him on the other act.
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Reply #29 posted 05/08/08 8:13pm

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The videotape was "Exhibit A" because it depicts a horrific crime: a gang rape of a semi-conscious, 17-year-old girl, followed by a bizarre display of sexual precociousness by a 15-year-old girl. That's the truth recorded by Genarlow and his friends that fateful night. I suspect that is also why Ms. Bernstein hated it whenever McDade used it to rebut her version of Genarlow's crime.

No matter how much (two glasses of Cognac) the 17-year-old may have had to drink, no matter how much she may have flirted with those boys, she did not consent to having sex with all of them, one right after the other. Yet it never occurred to the "smart" and "spiritual" Genarlow to say, "Stop it. We should not be doing this." No. Genarlow watched, waited and gladly took his turn. When they were through raping her, Genarlow helped his friends drag the comatose victim to the bathroom. They opened the door, pushed her in, watched as she fell to the floor and closed the door. I guess she wasn't much fun anymore.
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