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Thread started 05/03/08 6:30pm

musicjunky318

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R.Kelly Is Screwed...

The platinum pisser may be the one getting screwed this time.

A woman is set to testify at R. Kelly's upcoming child pornography trial, revealing that she had a threesome with Kelly and the allegedly underage girl shown in the infamous video.

Sources tell the Chicago Sun-Times that the new witness will not only testify that she was underage when she had the threesome with Kelly -- but that the other girl involved is the exact same person who is now identified as the alleged victim.

Prosecutors claim to have identified the girl in the videotape -- who is now in her 20s. She denies it's her on the tape. She will take the stand in the trial as well.

Jury selection for the trial begins Friday. Both sides declined to comment, citing a gag order in the case.
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Reply #1 posted 05/03/08 6:32pm

SCNDLS

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Let's hope so. . . confused
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Reply #2 posted 05/03/08 6:33pm

Stymie

Don't matter. People will still support that sick motherfucker.
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Reply #3 posted 05/03/08 6:40pm

SCNDLS

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Stymie said:

Don't matter. People will still support that sick motherfucker.

You're right, but hopefully this will help get a conviction and his ass in jail where his child molestin' ass belongs.
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Reply #4 posted 05/03/08 6:43pm

CosmicDancer

sho nuff !

SCNDLS said:

Let's hope so. . . confused
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Reply #5 posted 05/03/08 6:43pm

Stymie

SCNDLS said:

Stymie said:

Don't matter. People will still support that sick motherfucker.

You're right, but hopefully this will help get a conviction and his ass in jail where his child molestin' ass belongs.
I hope so.
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Reply #6 posted 05/03/08 6:45pm

Timmy84

Could this be the end to a long career which produced classics like this:



And this:



And also who can forget this classic:



It remains to be seen. lol
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Reply #7 posted 05/03/08 6:57pm

Timmy84

And of course, we can't forget this legendary REMIX:

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Reply #8 posted 05/03/08 7:08pm

SCNDLS

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Timmy84 said:

And of course, we can't forget this legendary REMIX:



spit Oooooowwwwweeeee, I miss that nucca! lol
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Reply #9 posted 05/04/08 12:38am

ThaCat

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Chapelle remix is much better then the first one he did.

that south park is classic.
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Reply #10 posted 05/04/08 12:52am

bboy87

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Stymie said:

Don't matter. People will still support that sick motherfucker.

FUCK THAT! I'll testify and I didn't get pissed on!

I'll describe how he raped my ears with his terrible music mad mad


I just don't like that muthafucka mad
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Reply #11 posted 05/04/08 1:01am

Timmy84

ThaCat said:

Chapelle remix is much better then the first one he did.

that south park is classic.


Yeah I LOVE the remix!

"I'm gonna give you some POO-POO!
Gonna give you some pee-pee.
Gonna give you some DOO-DOO!
Wash it down with some wee-wee..."


Funny and sad thing about it is I think R. Kelly is that nasty. I wonder why his wife took all those golden and brown showers...unless she actually "enjoyed it". barf
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Reply #12 posted 05/04/08 1:47am

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Something tells me, that if anything was going to have happened to R. Kelly over that incident, it would have happened long before now. I don't quite understand what the deal is exactly, but I don't think he's going to be suffering any consequences (not here on earth, anyway) as a result of his actions.

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Reply #13 posted 05/04/08 7:19am

SPYZFAN1

Hate to say it but I agree with PDogz. This case has been going on for years without any type of results. The public still loves this man and his music and it's pretty much water under the bridge for him.

The courts have pretty much thrown this case out. R's going to have deal with this when he meets his maker.
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Reply #14 posted 05/04/08 8:46am

Timmy84

SPYZFAN1 said:

Hate to say it but I agree with PDogz. This case has been going on for years without any type of results. The public still loves this man and his music and it's pretty much water under the bridge for him.

The courts have pretty much thrown this case out. R's going to have deal with this when he meets his maker.


LOL! Saying that the public loves him now is like a "general" specification. Personally, he hasn't been part of my favorite artist list in like YEARS. Whatever happens though, God will deal with him.
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Reply #15 posted 05/04/08 8:47am

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SCNDLS said:

Stymie said:

Don't matter. People will still support that sick motherfucker.

You're right, but hopefully this will help get a conviction and his ass in jail where his child molestin' ass belongs.

pray
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Reply #16 posted 05/04/08 9:57am

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purplecam said:

SCNDLS said:


You're right, but hopefully this will help get a conviction and his ass in jail where his child molestin' ass belongs.

pray

2 times... pray pray
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #17 posted 05/04/08 10:33am

2blax2proud

These women will get FRIED on cross examination. The moment I read the State of Illinois wanted to bring in the Aaliyah situation, I knew that their case was weak against him. I'm not saying that he's innocent, but this is a weak case. They have to prove that Kelly knew they were underage. Their reputations, not Kelly's, will be put on blast in court. Unless they can prove that Kelly was a serial predator and pursued these girls while they were in middle school, it's a wrap.
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Reply #18 posted 05/04/08 11:59am

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2blax2proud said:

These women will get FRIED on cross examination. The moment I read the State of Illinois wanted to bring in the Aaliyah situation, I knew that their case was weak against him. I'm not saying that he's innocent, but this is a weak case. They have to prove that Kelly knew they were underage. Their reputations, not Kelly's, will be put on blast in court. Unless they can prove that Kelly was a serial predator and pursued these girls while they were in middle school, it's a wrap.

They have videos, they have pictures, they have abortion papers!
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Reply #19 posted 05/04/08 1:13pm

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bboy87 said:

2blax2proud said:

These women will get FRIED on cross examination. The moment I read the State of Illinois wanted to bring in the Aaliyah situation, I knew that their case was weak against him. I'm not saying that he's innocent, but this is a weak case. They have to prove that Kelly knew they were underage. Their reputations, not Kelly's, will be put on blast in court. Unless they can prove that Kelly was a serial predator and pursued these girls while they were in middle school, it's a wrap.

They have videos, they have pictures, they have abortion papers!


Audio-visuals and photographs only prove that they had sex, and she got pregnant, the thing is that the State has to prove that Kelly (solicit) these girls to perform sex acts with him. That means that they have to prove that Kelly knew these girls were underage and didn't give a shit, which is difficult.

Again, I'm not saying that R Kelly is innocent, but this isn't a rape case, this isn't a child molestation case, if it was, he would have been in Menard by now. The way to know if this case will be easy to prosecute is to know what is the defense of R Kelly, if he says that it's not him on the video or the pictures, or he's never met any of these girls, it's a slam dunk.
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Reply #20 posted 05/04/08 1:14pm

Stymie

2blax2proud said:

bboy87 said:


They have videos, they have pictures, they have abortion papers!


Audio-visuals and photographs only prove that they had sex, and she got pregnant, the thing is that the State has to prove that Kelly (solicit) these girls to perform sex acts with him. That means that they have to prove that Kelly knew these girls were underage and didn't give a shit, which is difficult.

Again, I'm not saying that R Kelly is innocent, but this isn't a rape case, this isn't a child molestation case, if it was, he would have been in Menard by now. The way to know if this case will be easy to prosecute is to know what is the defense of R Kelly, if he says that it's not him on the video or the pictures, or he's never met any of these girls, it's a slam dunk.
So, you can sex with someone and if they are underage and you don't know it, then you're off the hook?
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Reply #21 posted 05/04/08 1:42pm

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Stymie said:

2blax2proud said:



Audio-visuals and photographs only prove that they had sex, and she got pregnant, the thing is that the State has to prove that Kelly (solicit) these girls to perform sex acts with him. That means that they have to prove that Kelly knew these girls were underage and didn't give a shit, which is difficult.

Again, I'm not saying that R Kelly is innocent, but this isn't a rape case, this isn't a child molestation case, if it was, he would have been in Menard by now. The way to know if this case will be easy to prosecute is to know what is the defense of R Kelly, if he says that it's not him on the video or the pictures, or he's never met any of these girls, it's a slam dunk.
So, you can sex with someone and if they are underage and you don't know it, then you're off the hook?


How many times have you heard stories about little girls lying about their age, using fake IDs, some dressing and looking as if they're 20 years old, in order to get into clubs, hanging out with older guys; celebrities, athletes, etc., getting married, etc. I'm not saying that it's the girls' fault, but these questions will come up in trial. This is a child porn trial, not statutory rape, sexual battery, abuse, etc. The video must show that, she looked 14 and she scared and inexperienced, and Kelly was in teaching her and showing her what to do. This case is going to be tough.
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Reply #22 posted 05/04/08 1:49pm

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2blax2proud said:

Stymie said:

So, you can sex with someone and if they are underage and you don't know it, then you're off the hook?


How many times have you heard stories about little girls lying about their age, using fake IDs, some dressing and looking as if they're 20 years old, in order to get into clubs, hanging out with older guys; celebrities, athletes, etc., getting married, etc. I'm not saying that it's the girls' fault, but these questions will come up in trial. This is a child porn trial, not statutory rape, sexual battery, abuse, etc. The video must show that, she looked 14 and she scared and inexperienced, and Kelly was in teaching her and showing her what to do. This case is going to be tough.
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I don't think this stuff is going to be a factor here because she is the niece of one of his artists, Sparkle, with whom he was having a relationship with. He knew that girl and her family. So it's not like this is some random 14 year old he met on the street posing to be older. Sparkle is supposed to be cooperating so she should be able to corroborate that he knew that girl and how old she was.
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Reply #23 posted 05/04/08 2:06pm

Stymie

SCNDLS said:

2blax2proud said:



How many times have you heard stories about little girls lying about their age, using fake IDs, some dressing and looking as if they're 20 years old, in order to get into clubs, hanging out with older guys; celebrities, athletes, etc., getting married, etc. I'm not saying that it's the girls' fault, but these questions will come up in trial. This is a child porn trial, not statutory rape, sexual battery, abuse, etc. The video must show that, she looked 14 and she scared and inexperienced, and Kelly was in teaching her and showing her what to do. This case is going to be tough.
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I don't think this stuff is going to be a factor here because she is the niece of one of his artists, Sparkle, with whom he was having a relationship with. He knew that girl and her family. So it's not like this is some random 14 year old he met on the street posing to be older. Sparkle is supposed to be cooperating so she should be able to corroborate that he knew that girl and how old she was.
The thing that knocks Sparkle's credibility as well as some others in this case, is how these sick motherfuckers sat on this until R Kelly did something personally to piss them off.
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Reply #24 posted 05/04/08 2:08pm

2blax2proud

SCNDLS said:

2blax2proud said:



How many times have you heard stories about little girls lying about their age, using fake IDs, some dressing and looking as if they're 20 years old, in order to get into clubs, hanging out with older guys; celebrities, athletes, etc., getting married, etc. I'm not saying that it's the girls' fault, but these questions will come up in trial. This is a child porn trial, not statutory rape, sexual battery, abuse, etc. The video must show that, she looked 14 and she scared and inexperienced, and Kelly was in teaching her and showing her what to do. This case is going to be tough.
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I don't think this stuff is going to be a factor here because she is the niece of one of his artists, Sparkle, with whom he was having a relationship with. He knew that girl and her family. So it's not like this is some random 14 year old he met on the street posing to be older. Sparkle is supposed to be cooperating so she should be able to corroborate that he knew that girl and how old she was.


This I didn't know about, again, I'm not defending this guy, I don't believe it's a slam dunk/R Kelly is screwed type of case, I believe that shit when it happened with Michael Jackson, and looked what happened. You just never know
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Stymie said:

2blax2proud said:



Audio-visuals and photographs only prove that they had sex, and she got pregnant, the thing is that the State has to prove that Kelly (solicit) these girls to perform sex acts with him. That means that they have to prove that Kelly knew these girls were underage and didn't give a shit, which is difficult.

Again, I'm not saying that R Kelly is innocent, but this isn't a rape case, this isn't a child molestation case, if it was, he would have been in Menard by now. The way to know if this case will be easy to prosecute is to know what is the defense of R Kelly, if he says that it's not him on the video or the pictures, or he's never met any of these girls, it's a slam dunk.
So, you can sex with someone and if they are underage and you don't know it, then you're off the hook?

What I don't appreciate is that 2blax2proud's ass is tryin to shatter my dreams of seeing R. Kelly in jail

I've been planning the R. Kelly Conviction party since 2002 and this money damn sure ain't gonna go to waste!!!!! mad lol
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Reply #26 posted 05/05/08 8:13am

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2blax2proud said:

These women will get FRIED on cross examination. The moment I read the State of Illinois wanted to bring in the Aaliyah situation, I knew that their case was weak against him. I'm not saying that he's innocent, but this is a weak case. They have to prove that Kelly knew they were underage. Their reputations, not Kelly's, will be put on blast in court.

Kelly's defense will definitely NOT be overlooking the fact that the girl clearly accepted money from him in the video. It's like; she was laying there in Kelly's puddle, he hands her some cash, she takes it and says thank you, and next thing you know she's tasting Kelly's rooster. I'm sure the threat alone of what they'll do to her character & reputation has eliminated the idea of any further litigation. Especially since Kelly has probably already laid a ton of cash on everyone involved.
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Reply #27 posted 05/05/08 8:17am

Graycap23

More distractions 4 the masses.....
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Reply #28 posted 05/05/08 8:23am

chewwsey

I like the old r kelly a lot.

him getting screwed? hmmmm that shouldn't be too bad for him. he likes screwing anyway. he will be fine. lol
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Reply #29 posted 05/05/08 10:43am

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Woman To Testify She Had Threesome W/ Teen
May 5, 2008
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A woman is set to testify at R. Kelly’s upcoming child pornography trial that she had a three-way sexual encounter with Kelly and the alleged underage girl.

The 41-year-old R&B superstar is accused of videotaping himself having sex with a girl estimated to be 13 or 14. He has pleaded not guilty. Jury selection is set to begin Friday.

As part of the case, prosecutors claim to have identified the girl in the videotape. This alleged victim is now in her 20s. Kelly’s lawyers plan to argue — and the alleged victim will reportedly testify — that she is not the girl in the tape.

But the prosecution’s new witness could undermine that defense, since she will identify the girl, sources with knowledge of the matter told the Chicago Sun-Times. In addition, the witness is expected to say the girl was underage at the time of their encounter.

“She was involved in a threesome with [the girl] and R. Kelly,” one source said.

Prosecutors and defense lawyers declined to comment, citing a gag order in the case.

The witness’ testimony was among the evidence discussed in secret hearings last month before Judge Vincent Gaughan. The judge, citing concerns about pretrial publicity, closed the hearings to the public and put multiple court filings under seal.

The Kelly case has been pending since June 2002, when the R&B star was indicted on multiple counts of child pornography. It has been delayed repeatedly, but lawyers and courthouse personnel expect it will finally begin May 9.

Kelly faces up to 15 years in prison if convicted.
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