JackieBlue said:

Wellll, we gotta see if he can act

midnightmover said:

Oooohhh, you said the n word. SOS is gonna get you

musicman said:

Sounds interesting. Quite an interesting cast along with Monaghan and Ryan Reynolds.

DarlingDiana said:

SoulAlive said:

omggg that would be great too! Time Waits For No One would be hauntingly beautiful too, and the second part of I Am Love

SoulAlive said:

There you go again...so let me add that I need to be his musical director and co-creative director, get him away from those tired arrangements and choregraphy.

seriously,he should hire us to help get his career back on track! If only he would listen to our advice.

SoulAlive said:

He's too stubborn, I think.

Chris Brown is off crying some where.

SoulAlive said:

And I'd work for cheap too, only about 100k per year. Hey, it's a labor of love and respect.

xlad said:

His only response was to ask the guy to turn off the tape recorder. This just confirms what Slash said, after speaking to will.i.am. There ain't gonna be no new music from Michael for some time.

Adisa said:

midnightmover said:

Oh yes... exactly... that confirms it! Seriously, why don't you finally stop pretending to know it all, when in fact you know jack shit?? Will, Akon, Ne-Yo and several other people said in the last months, that they worked with MJ! You can't prove that that is not the case and once (this, or totally different) music (or MJ for that matter) is ready, it eventually will be released, so why don't you just shut the fuck up?? Oh, and don't bother to respond with your usual condescending blablabla... in fact, don't respond at all! It's really getting tiring! You kinda sound like a broken record!

Wow Midnightmover, you've really got a chip on your shoulder about MJ, huh?!

PatrickS77 said:

Once again you're demonstrating you're inability to interpret evidence. All of the quotes from those people confirm that there is more talking and pontificating going on than anything else. You just heard will.i.am dodge the question. Ne-Yo said he offered Michael some songs but Michael wasn't too keen. Akon has said that after remixing one of Mike's songs he expects to work with Mike on new material. None of that is really suggestive of any work being done right now or in recent months. But somehow in your mini brain those quotes have been twisted from "Yeah, I met him a few times, it's gonna happen" into "Yeah, we recorded five new tracks and the album's out in September". That's why your predictions about when his album was gonna come out were so laughably wrong. Because your brain twists evidence to suit the needs of it's owner, and until you correct that problem you're always gonna be stringing yourself along through the land of make believe.
[Edited 5/9/08 7:14am]

midnightmover said:

Well, I don't know which cave you've been living in but will.i.am, Akon and Ne-Yo have confirmed they've psychilly worked on music with Michael in the studio. We even have video footage of will.i.am with Michael in a studio in Ireland. There are also studios in London, Ireland, Las Vegas and Los Angeles that have confirmed Michael has been in to do a few sessions at their studios.

midnightmover said:

Now this is all too funny. You're telling other people their brains are twisting the evidence when you are completely ignoring the mountains of reports and interviews confirming Michael has worked (past tense) with will.i.am, Akon, Ne-Yo, Rodney Jerkins and others. All you're focusing on are reports and interviews from someone saying they will work with Michael. Which you interpret as they haven't yet. Not the case. Have you ever considered it possible that will.i.am, Akon or any of these people worked with Michael a couple of months ago, did their own shit, then next month plan on working with him AGAIN?

If you look at Michael's most recent albums, Michael Jackson is credited as executive producer. At the end of the day, Michael chooses the tracklist, Michael chooses the album artwork, Michael negotiates a release date, Michael chooses a title. Akon, Ne-Yo, will.i.am don't have a say in any of it, they don't need to know Michael's plan on any of it, and obviously Michael has kept it all from them. It's the executive producer's job to know when about the album will come out. Not some dude who Michael worked with once or twice on some songs that may or may not make the album.

You're saying the album will come out in 2012 just because you love to hate MJ and it's fun to bag on him. But if you look at it objectively, He usually has fairly average time periods from when he begins work on an album and when he releases it. Of course, Invincible isn't a good example of that, but there were special circumstances surrounding it's release. So, if Invincible if your only indication that Michael takes years and years to make an album, then you're really using the wrong example. Look at Thriller, Dangerous, HIStory. Even Bad, which seems like it took forever but he really only started on it properly in 1986. So really, he doesn't take as long as you and others make out he does.

He started this album in May 2006. He was probably writing before that, but around mid 2006 is when we first heard he was in the studio regularly and he was intent on making an album. It's now May 2008, he's been at it two years. Factor in the legal cases and financial issues he's had to deal with in the last couple of years. He's probably done a fair bit, at least an album's worth of good finished products. He'll be scheduling recording session over the next couple of months to finish off and polish the album. He'll be negotiating a way of releasing the album (whether it be through Sony or via the Internet as will.i.am advised) before we know it. I don't think it's at all far fetched to predict he'll release the album in the later half of this year, which is his favourite time to release his albums, if you look at his track record. I honestly think August/September 2008.

I guess what I'm saying is, look at it objectively, and quit trying to take pot shots at him all the time, and maybe you'll see why it's more far fetched to think the album will come out in a matter or years than it is to think the album will come out in a matter of months.
[Edited 5/8/08 9:14am]

SoulAlive said:

These are all mellow jams. Acoustic versions of his uptempo computery synth hits would sound awesome too.

Pretty cool you threw a Jackson 5 song in there ("Maybe Tomorrow") and I imagine there are some other Jackson 5 songs that he could perform solo or with faceless background singers.

Cinnie said:

"Maybe Tommorrow" is such an amazing song.....beautiful melody and harmonies.I KNOW this song would work well in his acoustic set!! And yes,there are numerous other Jackson 5 songs that could be used.His fans would lose their minds if he did a project like this.

darlingdiana said

Even by the standard of MJ fans this is one twisted, dishonest and dumb post. There's so much distortion here I don't even know where to start. First of all the people you mention such as Akon and Ne-Yo have NEVER said they've produced new material with him. Akon remixed a track for Thriller 25 and expects to work on Mike's new album, but as of yet, it doesn't seem to have happened. Ne-Yo simply said he offered Mike some tracks, but Mike was procrastinating. The sessions in Ireland with will.i.am you spoke about took place two years ago and were just exploring the possibility of working, but as Slash's recent comments showed, it didn't turn out well. Slash has ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to lie about that. If he says Mike is procrastinating, then I believe him. Why the hell do you think will.i.am got so uncomfortable when he was asked about the "new MJ songs"? Even someone like Babyface who had his tracks rejected for History, never dodged questions about MJ in the past.

Secondly, you're telling me to be objective and yet you're saying he's already recorded "an album's worth of good finished product". Now, who knows, maybe he has, but so far there is absolutely nothing to indicate that, so once again you are mistaking your own fantasies for objective facts.

Thirdly, you say his album will be out in September. Again, that is just another random date you are plucking out of thin air. Haven't you guys learnt your lesson about inventing fictitious release dates. You ALWAYS get it wrong. Always. Now, anyone can make mistakes, but only a special type of fool repeats the same mistakes over and over again. Step forward, DD.

MattyJam said:

No, it's his only his fans that get on my nerves, not him. He was great in his day.

SoulAlive said:

midnightmover said:

Michael Jackson speaks to Billy Bush from Access Hollywood October 2006
(asked if he is writting music again) I never stopped (smiles).. I'm always writing a potpourri of music, you know, it's how it is.


Will.i.am speaks to Billy Bush from Access Hollywood October 2006
Something needs to put a jolt back in the music industry. And the only thing that can do that is the jolt itself. The energy that sparked the imagination of the kids that are... me, you know, the Justin Timberlake's, we're all products of this. (Motions to Michael) So the only person that can put that jolt back in to that monstrosity of entertainment and music is the one who created that. (Motions to Michael again)


Michael Jackson speaks to reporters at World Music Awards November 2006
(asked if he has started recording new material)
Yes.
(so far its going)
Excellent.
(is the king of pop back)
Yes.
Im putting it together; mainly writing it myself.. and working with other people.


Will.i.am talks to Rolling Stone November 2006
(Published February 8th, 2007)

For a month we probably talked three times a week. He'd be like, "I need you to dig deep inside! Do something that's unprecedented!" He'd hum a little melody over the phone or something. Eight song sketches were conjured out of phone conversations, then we met up in Ireland for a week and finished three ideas. We tracked one song--the running title is "I'm Dreamin'."

He just said, "Great melodies." In January we'll spend a month together. I want it to sound like Off the Wall for today. He's been really open to ideas. But as far as his vocal abilities are concerned, he's still killing everybody.


Will.i.am talks to Billboard.com in January 2007
Man, he still sings like a bird. He could go anywhere. I think we have a real opportunity to do something here. It's either gonna be really big or nobody's gonna care. Ain't no middle ground on this one.


Will.i.am speaks to reporters at Cannes MidemNet Conference January 2007
Michael Jackson is working day and night on this great, great record. I heard and see him in the studio and he is creating a masterpiece. A lot of people in the industry are involved or want to be involved. From producers to marketing people.


Raymone Bain statement re: Michael's current career situation 2007
"He hasn't made up his mind about whether a Vegas show is in the cards for him," stated his rep, Raymone Bain. "He's been in the studio since November 2006 working on his music. He's been presented with various proposals. A Vegas show isn't a priority". "He's in Las Vegas now. He's pretty grounded in Vegas. It's very convenient for producers and songwriters to get to him. He's worked there before. He's been recording with producers Rodney Jerkins, will.i.am and Neff-U"


Akon talks to Rolling Stone in April 2007
I'm excited, im highly excited because I think it's gonna be magic when we get together.
All the stuff that he's going through, that he's been through the past two years, the stuff that's been out in the media... the stuff that hasn't been out, I think he needs to just take all that (and) put it in his records. It's a big story.
Nobody's ever really heard Mike's story... People go by what they heard or what they're told but nobody never really heard him and his story, and what captivated all those movements. If he takes that and accepts what's been out there and expresses his opinion, express his feelings, express what he felt on a record I think it'd take his whole album to a whole 'nother level because the album now becomes a soundtrack of his life from that point to this point and that's something people are gonna want to know about - that's something people are going to want to hear from him. And with his voice, and with our melodies, with the way and how we can bring it across I think it would be incredible.


Big Chuck (uncle of Neff-U) re: Michael's new album tracks
(Michael is) ready to take over the world. He's got some hot records. Will.I.Am did one, Teddy Riley (did one). We're giving Michael a lot of edgy street records. He's putting melodies to some hard party records.


Akon speaks to a reporter July 2007
(asked what he is doing with MJ) Whoo! It's gonna be incredible. He's incredible. I see why now he is so big. He is a genius. Yeah, he's a genius.


Producer Syience SOHH Exclusive July 2007
"I'm actually working on music for him now," he said. "I always wanted to be a part of anything he ever did. Nobody really knows what Michael Jackson is going to do. Even the biggest producers and writers are not sure what's going to happen with that, but we are all sitting back and still creating and trying to get on the project. They asked me to work on the project so we're working on it."



Will.i.am revealing two song titles Feb & August 2007
Rolling Stone magazine article published in February of 2007 stated that the pair had drafted eight new songs and physically tracked one, titled "I'm Dreamin'".
On the 13th of August 2007, will.i.am told reporters at a Black Eyed Peas press conference in South Korea that another track he recorded with Jackson is titled "The Future". Another song title that will.i.am has revealed is "Still The King".


Will.i.am speaks to Times Online in August 2007
[Jackson's] voice is still incredible. It’s not about crazy beats that are going be here today and gone tomorrow, but melodies that will stay for a lifetime.


Will.i.am speaking to Ryan Seacrest in August 2007
I went to Ireland to work with Mike, that was a great experience.
We probably did like 3 or 4 songs - 2 of them are (finished)
I dont know when he's gonna put em out, its his project, ya know - I'd put em out tomorrow!
(how is he doin?) Awesome - (how was he to work with?) The freshest.
When i was with him it was super-duper place, ya know - Flying to Ireland, and being there for like a week, this great facility, great studios, great vibe, great atmosphere - it was just the awesomest.
(the songs) Are just feel-good joints - just really feel-good songs. I wrote 2 songs, then he wrote one song, and we wrote one song together.


Will.i.am talks to Rolling Stone magazine September 2007
We’re taking it day by day, we’ve finished some songs. I like what I’m doing, I’m really happy with it, but it’s not my project to talk about. I could be talking about song titles what they sound like and be excited about it, but those songs I made may not make his record and then I look like an idiot.


Will.i.am at Pepsi/BEP press conference 2007
I've done 3 songs with Michael Jackson now, and maybe it will come out next year - we dont know - but ima continue to work with Michael Jackson.. yep.
(asked about the sound of the tracks) I heard it (laughs). Yeah, its pretty amazing, yep. But i cant, you know its Michael Jackson, I cant talk about it.


Will.i.am talks to AP in September 2007
Just working on records, making music, working on stuff for his next project. I'd be like, ''Hey Mike, you like this?'' (He imitates Jackson's voice) ''It's all right, it's cool. But I think we need something a little bit bigger.'' OK, if you don't want it, I'll just put it over here (on my album). Ain't nothing to me, just drag the little folder to the ''will ''folder (laughs)


Ne-yo backstage at MOBO Awards September 2007
Michael Jackson.. definately workin' with him right now, putting some stuff together. Umm, i can't talk about it a whole lot, you know, he's very much tryin' to keep it mysterious, but ahh, it's definately gonna be something worth checking out.


Will.i.am talks to Trevor Nelson (Radio 1) September 2007
So we're talking on the phone talking about ideas and two months later i fly out to Ireland and we, you know, start making some songs. Then four months later i fly out to Vegas and we make, you know, in the studio again. But about time the record comes out i dont know, he could be like "you know, the songs were cool ya know.. i dont think ima use them". I dont know. All i know is i work with the dude so..


Will.i.am on German MTV in September 2007
(about jackson's new album) Melodies, it's all about the melodies. About the melodies and the king of grooves you will play 10 years from now - Anticipate 10 years from now.


Will.i.am speaks to Kim Halling on The Voice Tv September 2007
I cant even consider Michael Jackson's record a comeback record; i dont think he's ever left. You know, 'Thriller', 'Off The Wall', 'Beat It', 'Billie Jean', 'I'm Bad', 'Dangerous', 'Dirty Diana', like, you still go to clubs around the world, they're still playing this man's music. So regardless if they're not selling, like just come out like ever Tuesday, right.. A record comes out every Tuesday.. and no record has been as monumental as his records. So, you can keep on releasing records every Tuesday but his records will always be important to the planet; So, this is just another Michael Jackson record. You know, and im doing my best to try and, you know, make infectious melodies and nice grooves that could play in the clubs or play on your iphone or ipod or on internet or whatever. Where ever its gonna play, thats what we're trying to make. Workin with Mike, its like, there needs to be a new terminology. Its like, workin' with Michael Jackson!


Kanye West on Michael Jackson October 2007
I'm working on stuff for Michael Jackson. If I like a person's outlet or what a person brings to the table then I'll speak to them.


Will.i.am talks to Sydney (Australia) reporter October 2007
We ... treat Michael Jackson as a new artist and just make songs with infectious melodies. The songs will speak for themselves. I am sworn to silence or Michael is known to get pretty violent (laughs).


Akon to MTV in November 2007
He's a genius. Just to be in the same room [with him], I felt everything I wanted to accomplish in life has been achieved. That aura ... that's how incredible that aura is. We about to shake the world up, man. You know how you be with somebody and you can't even explain [the feeling]? I used to sit and think, 'How does somebody sell so many records and dominate a whole business genre, to a point [where] nobody can't be a part of that without associating with you?' The way he thinks ... some artists think regional, some think national, I was thinking international. He thinks planets. It's on another level."


Michael Jackson talks to Bryan Monrow from Ebony Magazine November 2007
(asked can we expect more of Michael Jackson)
I'm writting alot of stuff right now. I'm in the studio, like, every day. I think, like, the rap thing that is happening now, when it first came out, I always felt that it was gonna take more of a melodic structure to make it more universal, 'cause not everyone speak English. (laughs) And you're limited to your country. But when you have a melody, and everybody can hum a melody, then that's when it became France, The Middle East, everywhere! All over the world because they put that melodic, linear thread in there. You have to be able to hum it, from the farmer in Ireland to the lady who scrubs toilets in Harlem to anybody who can whistle to a child poppin' their fingers. You have to be able to hum it.


Ne-yo speaks to The Voice November 16th 2007

Yes, yes. I am currently submitting songs for Michael Jackson's new project.. ahh I don't know when it's coming out.. Really not much else i can say about it other than I have had conversations with the man.. Ive actually met him.. You know we talked about where he wants to go this time and everything and um, the KEY thing he was saying is that to keep it very hush hush.. he don't want no song titles coming out, no nothin. He want's the world to be shocked and surprised when it comes out.
(Reporter says will.i.am said it might come out next year [2008])
Um, it's possible, it's possible. He said he definately wants it to come out soon. Yeah.
(Asked about will.i.am calling Ne-yo about working with MJ)
Yes yes, we are actually supposed to be doing some songs together but you know his schedule has him over here and mine has me over here so we're trying to work it out.


Will.i.am speaking to reporters November 2007
The sh** is awesome.
(when will the album be finished?) I dont know. Mike, Mike is ahh, he's real like.. fine-tune king. Whenever he says 'go'.


Ne-yo gives radio interview December 2007
(when asked what he did for Michael Jackson) I can't talk about it. They won't let me, they, you know - He wants to world to be shocked. They said, let it be known that your working with him, but you cant give no song titles, you cant go into detail. And out of respect for the King you, i gotta.. (stops talking) Thats real respect right there.
(asked when its being released) I'm not sure. He's taking his time on it and being extra extra picky, you know. This is gonna be a big album for him - So he's taking his time, yeah.
(asked how many songs he submitted) I've submitted a bunch of songs, you, we have conversations about it but i dont know exactly what he's gonna use.


Akon talks on radio interview December 2007
(asked why he got in late) I was workin on MJ's new project. Yeah man, working on his new project, getting ready to launch his album. Oh man he got a surprise for you guys for Superbowl. Yeah man the guy's about to and take over 2008.
(asked is it a performance) I cant say anything.
I didnt say he was gonna perform. Im not gonna tell you too much, i may have told you too much already.
You see Mike has something totally separate going on, its just happening around the Superbowl time, so, ill give you a hint - His prescence will be felt around that time.


Carlos Santana on Mas Vale Tarde with Alex Cambert January 2008
Michael, called me not too long ago and he asked me to work with him and Quincy Jones which both are back working together again.


Neyo on BET honors red carpet January 2008
Um, things are coming along nicely. You know Mike is definately being very picky, which he needs, you know, which he needs to be you know this is a very important album.. he's taking his time, but umm.. I think its gonna be good, I think its gonna be good.


Akon speaks to LIVE105.3 pre-Grammys February 8 2008
Yeah [i did a song] For his tribute album. And im pretty much, you know doing the majority of his new album as well.
(is it being recorded in the states?) Well, depends, where ever we decide to do it you know whatever Mike's feelin'. We might fly off to Aruba for that day and do a record and fly back. That's how he moves, yeah.


Neyo speaks to Artisan News pre-Grammys February 2008
Asked if him and will.i.am were supposed to be working together on Michael's album..
Yeah! That was a little while ago.. We been trying, but we still haven't worked together on Michael's stuff.. I mean because he (will.i.am) was in the process of promoting an album and I was doing my thing so we never really got it together.. but, I have been working with Mike, doing some stuff for him, submitting some songs to him and it's coming along nicely.


60 seconds with Ne-Yo in February 2008
I think (releasing Thriller 25) is a good idea before he goes with the new album. He's coming up with a new one that I'm working with him on.


Akon speaks to The Voice Late February 2008
Oh Mike is good.. Mike is so focused. His next project is gonna be amazing.
(Asked: Are you gonna work with him?)
Absolutely
Have you already started working with him?
Absolutely.. So look out for that, its gonna be crazy.


Ne-Yo talks about MJ album on 27 April 2008
What can you tell us?
Uh, nothing that would get me in trouble. He was very adamant about nobody knowing what's going on. No explanations, not even song titles. But we are working together and it's coming along nicely. He's being very selective.
[Edited 5/9/08 8:17am]

LOL

I guess that pretty much wraps it up.

I'm just gonna see what happens

I wanna know more about the Carlos Santana/Quincy Jones/Michael Jackson collaboration!

midnightmover said:

Yawn, describing yourself, eh?? I wonder who does more twisting and ignoring!

Personal insults certainly won't help you to prove your point, they don't change the fact that you're only guessing and thus could be right, but also very well be wrong!

I admit though, it probably was a bit naive predicting a release date, but that's nothing new when it comes to MJ and album releases... in the past 25 years people always ended up looking like a fool when predicting release dates, but eventually, each album surfaced!

Anyway, collaborators, including Will, were saying that some songs are finished! I would have told you to look it up, but somebody was kind enough to do so already... Preach it DarlingDiana!

What happens with those songs is up to Michael.... and that's what they always said! But again, you yourself refuse to look at anything that might prove you wrong! The only one with the tiny brain and the narrow minded view is you!

can't help myself - i gotta dive in here.

there ain't no new tunes - at least not any funky ones - if there were they'd be out already - if the dude had kick ass tunes he'd want them out there.

" Can you switch that tape recorder off... "

was that what the sound engineer said when these "new tunes" were being recorded? I mean it's all just hoopla. Mostly created by fans.

So I hope I'm wrong and the "new" album drops next month and is full of kick ass jams which brings one of the finest vocal stylists in history back front and center - but it ain't happening.

At the end of the day talk is cheap and the only thing that matters is the tunes - in leiu of any new ones.... well I'll stick with my Triumph thanks all the same.

harbars said:

Yes, because you can't see/hear something, it doesn't exist! Yep, that's it!

Let me break these quotes down into their respective categories and expain them to you since you obviously don't know what they mean. First of all...

TWO YEAR OLD MICHAEL QUOTES



Okay, anyone with a brain in their head knows Michael is the most unreliable source. Michael said in 2005 he was doing a song for Hurricane Katrina. It never happened, did it? Now, these comments here were made two years ago and we've still heard nothing. I don't think anyone doubts that Michael has worked on bits and pieces, but the issue is how intensely he's working, and with how much hunger. These quotes tell us nothing about that. It's because you failed to realize this that you thought his album would be out in 2007. You were wrong about that. The reason you were wrong is because you misinterpreted quotes like these.

WILL.I.AM'S GRADUALLY DIMINISHING PRAISE



Okay, ALL these quotes refer to sessions that took place in late 2006 and early 2007. Most of that work was done 18 months ago, and we've heard nothing. More importantly, you'll see how in the early quotes he is SUPER EXCITED to have worked with his childhood idol, yet in the later quotes he is cooler and describes basically being fobbed off by Michael. When asked about the songs recently he TOTALLY CHANGED THE SUBJECT. Will's friend Slash recently revealed that things didn't turn out well and that Will said Mike won't have any material out for some time. Don't you think those recent quotes are FAR MORE relevant than the older ones? And also, do you think Slash has any reason to lie about that?

STATEMENT FROM A PUBLICIST NONE OF YOU TRUST


Again, this tells us NOTHING about how serious Michael is. We know he had recording sessions in late 2006/ early 2007, but no one knows whether they amounted to anything. Michael's Jewish doctor friend (I forget the name, but I'll check it in a minute) described how, in the early '00s, Michael would arrange sessions with musicians, but nothing would get done because Michael lacked motivation. He said Michael was a "shadow of his former self". Don't you also think it's strange that all this work took place in late 2006/ early 2007 yet not much seems to have happened since then? Oh, and just in case you think it has, read on, while I explain these other quotes to you.
[Edited 5/10/08 11:21am]