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DeBarge - "Stay With Me"




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DeBarge's "Stay With Me" is sampled on The Notorious B.I.G.'s "One More Chance" remix (featuring Biggie's eventual wife Faith Evans), and Ashanti's song "Foolish" as well as Ne-Yo's "Stay".

"A Dream" was sampled by Tupac in "I Ain't Mad At Ya" and in Blackstreet's "Don't Leave".

Mary J. Blige recorded a cover version of the DeBarge song, "A Dream" which up to that point had been covered only in sampled form by the artists mentioned above.

In the Ying Yang Twins' "Bedroom Boom" (which featured Avant), his song "All This Love" is referenced: All this love is waiting for you, like I'm El DeBarge.


The rapper AZ samples "All This Love" in his track "Problems" from the album 9 Lives.

Mariah Carey samples "Stay With Me" in her song "I'll Be Lovin' You Long Time," off of her album "E=MC²"
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Reply #1 posted 04/17/08 2:12pm

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Love this joint! Probably one of my fave DeBarge cuts. That groove is unlike any thing that I've heard. No wonder Biggie used it for his biggest hit. biggrin
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Reply #2 posted 04/17/08 2:14pm

Timmy84

All of hip-hop need to give up a million dollars to the DeBarge family. Hell, they're the ones who made me realize how great of a group they were in the first place. lol
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Reply #3 posted 04/17/08 2:15pm

Stymie

I love that song.
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Reply #4 posted 04/17/08 2:18pm

RipHer2Shreds

One of their best. Saying the Ashanti song sampled it is being nice. lol They kept the music, changed the lyrics and added a whispered "murder inc.," here and there.
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Reply #5 posted 04/17/08 2:32pm

Ottensen

I need to find this song now for my mp3 library!!!

I want to give it to somebody in a mix mushy

on the other side of the coin, it makes it so sad to see how children that talented sort of fell by the wayside and under so much hardship. I STILL listen to old Debarge cuts TODAY and realize there aren't young people in current r&b who can (or are willing to) construct songs like this...you get everything with the Debarges, from tight harmonies to killer arrangments...I miss that in r&b today sigh
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Reply #6 posted 04/17/08 2:45pm

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Love me some Debarge. I'm always spinning their greatest hits. Love me in a Special Way and All this Love are my faves. music Ooooooh, I had the biggest crush on El. love
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Reply #7 posted 04/17/08 3:10pm

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Thanks for posting. Love this song. smile
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Reply #8 posted 04/17/08 5:02pm

Ottensen

SCNDLS said:[quote]Love me some Debarge. I'm always spinning their greatest hits. Love me in a Special Way and All this Love are my faves. music Ooooooh, I had the biggest crush on El. love[/quote

Girl, when I was maybe 14 (?), I was RIGHT THERE in the middle of Debarge madness at a record store signing they had for "All This Love"...my little happy teeny bopper ass was on cloud 9 cloud9. I think my mom still has the polaroid pictures I took of them from that day...I remember Bunny Debarge was behind the cash register with some oldskool fuzzy pink houseshoes on with her 80's style tracksuit, chain smoking menthol cigarettes. There were so many girls crowding (and fainting!)around El, from that day forward I decided to have my crush on Mark instead lol... Lawd, the good ole days falloff
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Reply #9 posted 04/17/08 5:04pm

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debarge are the gift and the curse!

gifted for their beautiful gems...and the curse of their lifestyles!
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Reply #10 posted 04/17/08 5:31pm

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Ottensen said:

SCNDLS said:

Love me some Debarge. I'm always spinning their greatest hits. Love me in a Special Way and All this Love are my faves. music Ooooooh, I had the biggest crush on El. love


Girl, when I was maybe 14 (?), I was RIGHT THERE in the middle of Debarge madness at a record store signing they had for "All This Love"...my little happy teeny bopper ass was on cloud 9 cloud9. I think my mom still has the polaroid pictures I took of them from that day...I remember Bunny Debarge was behind the cash register with some oldskool fuzzy pink houseshoes on with her 80's style tracksuit, chain smoking menthol cigarettes. There were so many girls crowding (and fainting!)around El, from that day forward I decided to have my crush on Mark instead lol... Lawd, the good ole days falloff


lol I'm jealous! lol I had a chance to see El in concert a few months back with Najee, but I didn't go. I wanted to preserve my idealistic memories of him and his family. sigh
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Reply #11 posted 04/17/08 6:58pm

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I really enjoyed their music as well.

It is funny because at the time, their music was considered light weight because it was top 40 stuff... not thought provoking like EWF etc. Their songs were about easy subjects... love, dancing having a good time.

But the truth is, their lyrics, their hooks, arrangements and harmonies are HEAD AND SHOULDERS over what people of their age today are putting out.


Debarge didn't sample, they created!! and for that I have new mad respect.
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Reply #12 posted 04/17/08 7:37pm

Timmy84

prodigalfan said:

I really enjoyed their music as well.

It is funny because at the time, their music was considered light weight because it was top 40 stuff... not thought provoking like EWF etc. Their songs were about easy subjects... love, dancing having a good time.

But the truth is, their lyrics, their hooks, arrangements and harmonies are HEAD AND SHOULDERS over what people of their age today are putting out.


Debarge didn't sample, they created!! and for that I have new mad respect.


It does seem weird how things were back then compared to now. They were also labeled bubblegum but their music was actually more adult than they were getting credit for since the men were basically pretty boys and Bunny was the sole dream chick. lol biggrin
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Reply #13 posted 04/17/08 7:43pm

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Baby you can't go on
Wondering where you belong
Let me help you find yourself
'Cause You don't need nobody else

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Definitely my fave Debarge song ever! Love it.
"And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ heart

"Baby, that was much too fast"...Goodnight dear sweet Prince. I'll love you always heart
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Reply #14 posted 04/17/08 10:51pm

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More Trivia:

Rapper "Big L" sampled this cut before Biggie, who while on tour with Big L heard the track and decided he wanted to use it too.
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Reply #15 posted 04/17/08 10:59pm

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..

biggrin My favorite Debarge Track!!! (I always wished it was just a little bit longer...oh, well...)





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Reply #16 posted 04/18/08 3:10am

Ottensen

prodigalfan said:

I really enjoyed their music as well.

It is funny because at the time, their music was considered light weight because it was top 40 stuff... not thought provoking like EWF etc. Their songs were about easy subjects... love, dancing having a good time.

But the truth is, their lyrics, their hooks, arrangements and harmonies are HEAD AND SHOULDERS over what people of their age today are putting out.


Debarge didn't sample, they created!! and for that I have new mad respect.



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Reply #17 posted 04/18/08 6:03am

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Debarge is one of my favorite groups- it is such a shame their fame was short lived.

Wonder if they could get together and tour with the Jacksons- that would be hot- then Eldra and Michael could do duets
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Reply #18 posted 04/18/08 6:25am

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I love this song and I love DeBarge. I had all their albums when I was a kid and this cut along with All This Love and Time Will Reveal are some of my favorite songs ever. Hip-Hop and R&B owes a lot to them. worship clapping music
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #19 posted 04/18/08 7:12am

Stymie

Ottensen said:[quote]

SCNDLS said:

Love me some Debarge. I'm always spinning their greatest hits. Love me in a Special Way and All this Love are my faves. music Ooooooh, I had the biggest crush on El. love[/quote

Girl, when I was maybe 14 (?), I was RIGHT THERE in the middle of Debarge madness at a record store signing they had for "All This Love"...my little happy teeny bopper ass was on cloud 9 cloud9. I think my mom still has the polaroid pictures I took of them from that day...I remember Bunny Debarge was behind the cash register with some oldskool fuzzy pink houseshoes on with her 80's style tracksuit, chain smoking menthol cigarettes. There were so many girls crowding (and fainting!)around El, from that day forward I decided to have my crush on Mark instead lol... Lawd, the good ole days falloff
Chico was here last weekend and I couldn't go see him. sad
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Reply #20 posted 04/18/08 7:19am

Ottensen

Stymie said:[quote]

Ottensen said:

SCNDLS said:

Love me some Debarge. I'm always spinning their greatest hits. Love me in a Special Way and All this Love are my faves. music Ooooooh, I had the biggest crush on El. love[/quote

Girl, when I was maybe 14 (?), I was RIGHT THERE in the middle of Debarge madness at a record store signing they had for "All This Love"...my little happy teeny bopper ass was on cloud 9 cloud9. I think my mom still has the polaroid pictures I took of them from that day...I remember Bunny Debarge was behind the cash register with some oldskool fuzzy pink houseshoes on with her 80's style tracksuit, chain smoking menthol cigarettes. There were so many girls crowding (and fainting!)around El, from that day forward I decided to have my crush on Mark instead lol... Lawd, the good ole days falloff
Chico was here last weekend and I couldn't go see him. sad



Okay...How come I remember Debarge being on the Punky Brewster show? I don't know if anybody here remembers better than me, but I think Chico was on the show, too, with VERY LARGE new wave peroxide blond hair falloff. He sure did grow up to be a sexy thang, though. I'd be mad too! lol
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Reply #21 posted 04/18/08 7:38am

Stymie

Ottensen said:

Stymie said:

Chico was here last weekend and I couldn't go see him. sad



Okay...How come I remember Debarge being on the Punky Brewster show? I don't know if anybody here remembers better than me, but I think Chico was on the show, too, with VERY LARGE new wave peroxide blond hair falloff. He sure did grow up to be a sexy thang, though. I'd be mad too! lol
Yes, Chico was on that episode. lol

And yes lord, he is so fine now. When he got out of jail, I just wanted to jump him. drool
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Reply #22 posted 04/18/08 9:39am

Cinnie

I sought this out after Biggie's famous 1995 remix "One More Chance/Stay With Me".

Now that Debarge album is one I would like to see reissued with the deluxe Hip-O treatment.

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Reply #23 posted 04/18/08 10:10am

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purplewisdom said:

debarge are the gift and the curse!

gifted for their beautiful gems...and the curse of their lifestyles!


This is such a interesting statement as I've never thought of it that way.

On a sad note, two weeks ago El Debarge and George Clinton were in Houston in the studio (George Clinton's management is based in Houston so he seems to be in town quite a bit), and they stopped by a local television station and El Debarge was acting so irradically, it was clear something was going on. George seemed fine but El Debarge seemed so outside of himself and was just all over the place. He couldn't stay still. It was really sad to seem him like that.
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Reply #24 posted 04/18/08 10:13am

Timmy84

VelvetJ said:

purplewisdom said:

debarge are the gift and the curse!

gifted for their beautiful gems...and the curse of their lifestyles!


This is such a interesting statement as I've never thought of it that way.

On a sad note, two weeks ago El Debarge and George Clinton were in Houston in the studio (George Clinton's management is based in Houston so he seems to be in town quite a bit), and they stopped by a local television station and El Debarge was acting so irradically, it was clear something was going on. George seemed fine but El Debarge seemed so outside of himself and was just all over the place. He couldn't stay still. It was really sad to seem him like that.


God bless his soul. He's been through so much. sad Motown really fucked with his mental too. sad He's probably in the same position his brother Bobby was - fucked up.
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Reply #25 posted 04/18/08 10:50am

SCNDLS

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Ottensen said:


Okay...How come I remember Debarge being on the Punky Brewster show? I don't know if anybody here remembers better than me, but I think Chico was on the show, too, with VERY LARGE new wave peroxide blond hair falloff. He sure did grow up to be a sexy thang, though. I'd be mad too! lol


He shol was fine! nod I don't usually like 'em that bright but he was a bootyful thang. lol I wonder how he looks now. Years ago, I used to waitress in this nightclub and Chico came to perform when he had that hit. Afterwards, when I was working VIP he told me I was cute and that I look just like his mother. lol WTF???? I told him, "Well, I guess it ain't gon' jump off if I look like your mama and shit????" lol sad
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Reply #26 posted 04/18/08 10:53am

Cinnie

Stymie said:

Ottensen said:




Okay...How come I remember Debarge being on the Punky Brewster show? I don't know if anybody here remembers better than me, but I think Chico was on the show, too, with VERY LARGE new wave peroxide blond hair falloff. He sure did grow up to be a sexy thang, though. I'd be mad too! lol
Yes, Chico was on that episode. lol

And yes lord, he is so fine now. When he got out of jail, I just wanted to jump him. drool


Feast your eyes:

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Reply #27 posted 04/18/08 10:54am

Timmy84

Cinnie said:

Stymie said:

Yes, Chico was on that episode. lol

And yes lord, he is so fine now. When he got out of jail, I just wanted to jump him. drool


Feast your eyes:



I can't even click on it just looking at James' weird fuck-do. lol It would've been too traumatic to see Chico.

DeBarge really went through some PROBLEMS! I think El's problem could be medication-related. sad
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Reply #28 posted 04/18/08 10:55am

SCNDLS

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Cinnie said:

Stymie said:

Yes, Chico was on that episode. lol

And yes lord, he is so fine now. When he got out of jail, I just wanted to jump him. drool


Feast your eyes:



falloff falloff falloff

Ohhhhh, my Lawwwwwd! disbelief Why is he rockin' a Prince pompadour AND pink lipstick?????
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Reply #29 posted 04/18/08 10:57am

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VelvetJ said:

This is such a interesting statement as I've never thought of it that way.

On a sad note, two weeks ago El Debarge and George Clinton were in Houston in the studio (George Clinton's management is based in Houston so he seems to be in town quite a bit), and they stopped by a local television station and El Debarge was acting so irradically, it was clear something was going on. George seemed fine but El Debarge seemed so outside of himself and was just all over the place. He couldn't stay still. It was really sad to seem him like that.


Precisely why I didn't go see him 2 months ago. I woulda cried if I saw him like that at a show. sigh
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