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PrintablePurpleCharm said: I really don't see what's wrong with Dawn's hair. It looks like she is wearing a short mini 'fro and if so, it looks nice on her.
Now Maxine is another story. I am not a fan of micro-braids or blonde hair. She's been rocking those micro braids since the Holdin On video. Maxine looked her best in the Don't Let Go video. Yeah, I agree. I just watched that and her razor cut was tight!   Max has always been kinda bad built cuz she's short-waisted and putting on weight didn't help. I think she can come back tho. | |
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SCNDLS said: MuthaFunka said: Yeah, true - But chicks NEVER stay together after the shit hits the fans. Dudes, just like in real life, will move on and still be cool and be able to function as a group. Y'all chicks hold grudges on each other like a muthafucka!  But that's exactly what EV is doing now, moving on and trynta function as a group. All I'm sayin' is that it happens to most groups male, female, and everything in between, just because of the dynamics. I mean, do you REALLY think Tito and Jackie got over Michael dumpin' they asses??? Jackie? Yes. Tito? No. But at least he ate his way through it. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: SCNDLS said: But that's exactly what EV is doing now, moving on and trynta function as a group. All I'm sayin' is that it happens to most groups male, female, and everything in between, just because of the dynamics. I mean, do you REALLY think Tito and Jackie got over Michael dumpin' they asses??? Jackie? Yes. Tito? No. But at least he ate his way through it. Fool. . . | |
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SCNDLS said: MuthaFunka said: Jackie? Yes. Tito? No. But at least he ate his way through it. Fool. . .  nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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At first, Dawn Robinson was reluctant to discuss the rumors surrounding En Vogue and the breakup of Lucy Pearl because she didn't want to rehash the negativity of the past until our readers emailed us and requested that we interview her to get more knowledge on what really happened in light of the negative and false allegations that appeared on the internet last week.
Throughout the years, Dawn has been falsely labeled as "difficult," and has been unfairly blamed for the downfall of En Vogue and the breakup of "Lucy Pearl." Finally, Dawn has decided to set the record straight. Until now, Dawn has kept quiet regarding her departures from En Vogue & Lucy Pearl. She will also discuss her working relationship with Dr. Dre at "Interscope Records," and she will talk about the Luther Vandross legacy. 10 MINUTE INTERVIEW WITH DAWN ROBINSON" Q: Why did En Vogue really break up? A: Being a part of one of the most successful female groups of all-time was a beautiful experience and the camaraderie we shared was awesome. Unfortunately, due to business not being handled properly, I decided to leave. We didn't have proper management in place. Q: Describe your situation in Lucy Pearl and how did the group come together? A: Few people know, I've known Raphael Saadiq since I was 16. We both hail from the bay area and we used to perform in local clubs where Raphael played bass and I sang. After I left En Vogue, Raphael came to me with a splendid idea, he wanted to form a trio. We developed the concept, likeness and sound for a group, (together), and we named the group 'Lucy Pearl.' During this time, I was on the verge of signing a 7-year, 7 album solo deal with RCA Records and I asked a music executive at the label-can I still sign with you as a solo artist and still do Lucy Pearl because Lucy Pearl is only a one off? He said, no. So I sacrificed my solo project to join Lucy Pearl. It was the right decision because the R&B division at RCA folded a few months later and several artists were left without a contract. At first, the project was exciting. Unfortunately, like En Vogue, lack of good business and the fact we had no manager, contributed to me leaving Lucy Pearl. Before we went on tour in the UK, I lost my house because of-lack of pay. Q: How was it working with Dr. Dre over at Aftermath Records? A: It was great experience and I have so much respect for Dre as a producer but I don't think he knew what to do with me as an R&B artist at the time. He seemed to be overwhelmed with projects prior to me signing with him and he had so much on his plate and he wasn't use to working with R&B artists because his main focus is hip-hop artists. I also needed time as an artist, to grow and create. We had a very amicable break. [b]Q: We all heard of the animosity on tour with late singer Luther Vandross, who is one of my favorite male singers. In an autobiography on his life (Luther: The Life and Longing Of Luther Vandross," by Craig Seymour), the following was reported: Things got so bad on tour with En Vogue, that a curtain was put up to separate them and Luther. While on tour in Miami, Luther saw that a member of En Vogue had wandered over to "his side" of the drawn curtain. His temper hit full-tilt and he "actually" called the Miami police to demand the group be charged with trespassing. Dawn, would you care to comment on this?[/b]
A: No, I just want to say that Luther was a tremendous talent who left us to soon and his incredible legacy of music will continue to live on through generations. When En Vogue was on tour with him, we watched his show from the wings each night after we finished our set. Every night, his show was amazing and flawless. I hope to receive the love and honor that fans still have for him. Source: "Luther: The Life and Longing Of Luther Vandross" by Craig Seymour | |
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MuthaFunka said: SCNDLS said: But that's exactly what EV is doing now, moving on and trynta function as a group. All I'm sayin' is that it happens to most groups male, female, and everything in between, just because of the dynamics. I mean, do you REALLY think Tito and Jackie got over Michael dumpin' they asses??? Jackie? Yes. Tito? No. But at least he ate his way through it. He was on the husky there. | |
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MuthaFunka said: SCNDLS said: Fool. . . Co- sign | |
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Luther was a diva.
Didn't he go through something similar when he was on tour with Anita Baker? | |
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banks said: PurpleCharm said: What? I didn't know they had broken up. The last news I heard was that they were trying to market a reality show about her comeback and his come-up. There was a preview on youtube and in the clip they were talking about how they were sleeping on a mattress on the floor and how the place they were living had rats. It was a mess. Here's what he posted on his my space page during the break up DAWN ROBINSON’S ESTRANGED HUSBAND PUTS HER ON BLAST! (THIS AIN’T PRETTY) Former En Vogue star Dawn Robinson’s soon to be ex-husband, Andre Allen, has put her on blast via his Myspace blog. For those who might not remember Dawn she was the one responsible for destroying En Vogue’s successful run as a group when she suddenly left the group in 1996. WHY DAWN????? Any way read Andre’s ANGRY blog entry below… “First & foremost, I would hardly EVER respond to sh*t talking from anyone but today I make an exception. These two ASS HOLES have gone on a rampage to destroy my name today while no one was even THINKING about them. If you read the blog comments, I was referred to by Dawn’s sister as a transvestite f**king homosexual who beats women & has sex with every woman he meets! Wow…gay but has sex with every woman I meet…LOL…this sh*t is a laugh! Well…since she felt the need to have her sister & a few of her closest friends come over here let me give you all the REAL reason why I left Dawn’s ass!!! One…she was signed up to porno sites & wanted to swing with other couples…before I got involved with her she admitted to sleeping with 17 men in one month from one swinging site…I GAVE HER THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT & THOUGHT SHE WAS JUST REALLY COMPENSATING FOR ALOT OF INSECURITY! I stayed. THEN…she NAGGED the shit out of me day in & day out because I was always busy & she didn’t know enough about the business to just get her own shit done…NO…she wanted to be a f***ing DIVA & complain about EVERY f***ing thing that I DID set up like she was still BEYONCE! NOBODY was checkin for her ass when I was with her! NOBODY hardly would book shows unless she was in En Vogue…I side busted & got their asses back together but the only ones who knew what they were doing was the other 3 members of the group! THEY were the smart ones! They knew how to get shit done & book shows but I had to always appease Dawn’s ass & say…”no, you’re right baby…those old tired bitches ain’t nothing without you”…S**T…she is quite literally THE stupidest person I have ever met…I fell out of love with her…I left her…now these IDIOTS are coming to my page trying to destroy my name with my fans??? HOW DARE YOU!!! You don’t want to dance with me! Why? Because I dont give a F**K! Your record is PUBLIC! You got kicked out of En Vogue & they didn’t even want to FACE you because you are the most DIFFICULT person in the world to deal with! They left you sitting at a photo shoot for the last album & didn’t tell you where they were at shooting the EV3 cover without you…remember that??? Raphael Saadiq kicked you out of Lucy Pearl because your attitude jeapordized an operation he worked HARD to get off the ground…and HE didn’t even face you…you found out you got kicked out on the RADIO!! Ask yourself why Dawn…because…you’re a phony, nagging, complaining, two faced, spoiled rotten BITCH!!!!! We haven’t even STARTED talking about your deal with Dr. Dre! What happened there Dawn? He BOOTED you before you even started because he saw your mouth a mile away! You dug this grave for yourself! Now here is a warning…keep my name out of your mouth & keep your friends & family members OFF of my myspace page” LOL madly in love, I only can say! | |
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PurpleCharm said:[quote]Luther was a diva.
Didn't he go through something similar when he was on tour with Anita Baker?[/quote] yes | |
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PurpleCharm said: Luther was a diva.
Didn't he go through something similar when he was on tour with Anita Baker? And Vanessa Williams???  Loved me some Luffa, but he was "spayshul." | |
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SCNDLS said: PurpleCharm said: Luther was a diva.
Didn't he go through something similar when he was on tour with Anita Baker? And Vanessa Williams??? Loved me some Luffa, but he was "spayshul." | |
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MuthaFunka said: Graycap23 said: I'll take the 2 on the right.
I don't know, dawg - I'd take dawn, too, though. But we'd stop off at the wig shop first. LOL! Yeah! I would have taken Dawn, back in the "Don't let go" days... I wouldn't have touched Cindy, she kinda scared me... but nowadays,Cindy and Terry are the women to go! To sum it up, I too would take the two on the right!  | |
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PatrickS77 said: MuthaFunka said: I don't know, dawg - I'd take dawn, too, though. But we'd stop off at the wig shop first. LOL! Yeah! I would have taken Dawn, back in the "Don't let go" days... I wouldn't have touched Cindy, she kinda scared me... but nowadays,Cindy and Terry are the women to go! To sum it up, I too would take the two on the right! Cindy was always extra muscular and gave me a tranny vibe, even in the Hold On video. She's softened up a bit. | |
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it's kinda sad that here we have one of the all time great female groups of all time and all we seem (including myself in this) to be able to do is ridicule how they look. Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: it's kinda sad that here we have one of the all time great female groups of all time and all we seem (including myself in this) to be able to do is ridicule how they look.
I know, I thought the same thing too. I mean who'd wanna be in the public eye and be subjected to this kind of criticism????
But, oh well. . . Don't you think Cindy was kinda masculine, though. 
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SCNDLS said: PatrickS77 said: LOL! Yeah! I would have taken Dawn, back in the "Don't let go" days... I wouldn't have touched Cindy, she kinda scared me... but nowadays,Cindy and Terry are the women to go! To sum it up, I too would take the two on the right! Cindy was always extra muscular and gave me a tranny vibe, even in the Hold On video. She's softened up a bit. LOL, yeah... exactly! LMAO @ Luther! Classic! sosgemini said: it's kinda sad that here we have one of the all time great female groups of all time and all we seem (including myself in this) to be able to do is ridicule how they look.
LOL don't worry... I'm listening to their greatest hits CD as I'm reading this thread... and this thread is hilarious! [Edited 4/30/08 14:18pm] | |
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PatrickS77 said: sosgemini said: it's kinda sad that here we have one of the all time great female groups of all time and all we seem (including myself in this) to be able to do is ridicule how they look.
LOL don't worry... I'm listening to their greatest hits CD as I'm reading this thread... and this thread is hilarious! [Edited 4/30/08 14:18pm] I was inspired by this thread to buy their CD last night and I'm also listening to it. However, that does not preclude me from talking about some members' hot-messedness. [Edited 4/30/08 14:50pm] | |
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sosgemini said: it's kinda sad that here we have one of the all time great female groups of all time and all we seem (including myself in this) to be able to do is ridicule how they look.
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MsLegs said: MuthaFunka said: But we'd stop off at the wig shop first. You ain't right. No Brotha MF, you be sure to have her stop by Fing Lee Shop at the Swap Meet. Oops my bag, Sistagirl has already been there. Dayum, and I thought I was cold-blooded. I've never been a fan of blonde hair on sistas. To me, it looks ridiculous. | |
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uPtoWnNY said: I've never been a fan of blonde hair on sistas. To me, it looks ridiculous. I agree. MJB and Beyonce 
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Nick715 said: One reunion album is all it will take and I'm happy. | |
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SCNDLS said: daPrettyman said: I think you are correct about Terri. I don't know if she has ever been married. I know all of the other girls have though. Maybe Terri has been too busy trying to keep the group together. I heard YEARS ago, when they first came out, that she was a lesbian. She's from Houston and that's been the word for awhile now. And Cindy has FOUR kids and is STILL holding it together. Max gotta come better than that.
BTW, all this En Vogue talk inspired me to download their greatest hits album last night and I've been jamming that all morning.  Damn! Them gurls could SANG!!! Folks REALLY need to stop mentioning Destiny's Child, TLC or any other girl group that came after them in the same breath as EV.
[Edited 4/30/08 8:01am] Ya damn skippy! Don't laugh at my funk
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JackieBlue said: Yall are horrible.
I don’t trust Dawn as far as I can throw her but I’d check them out if they did quality music. I just don’t want to see them on tour with some throwback 80s groups.  What you talkin bout willis i mean jackie blue?
What you got against 80's groups? 
What would be wrong with them on a funky divas tour with klymaxx, the mary jane girls, and cherelle. Don't laugh at my funk
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Dawn and Cindy were always my favorites from envogue. It helps also
that dawn has my last name. She should just come on and do the right thing and let's make it offishaaal. Cindy is still a nice tall drink i would give some good oral loving to any night of the week. Oh and for the record i would tap into terry's resources too. Maxine i wouldn't touch with Akon's pecker. [Edited 4/30/08 18:43pm] Don't laugh at my funk
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phunkdaddy said: JackieBlue said: Yall are horrible.
I don’t trust Dawn as far as I can throw her but I’d check them out if they did quality music. I just don’t want to see them on tour with some throwback 80s groups. What you talkin bout willis i mean jackie blue?
What you got against 80's groups?
What would be wrong with them on a funky divas tour with klymaxx, the mary jane girls, and cherelle. Actually, I wouldn't mind those acts. It's usually the guy groups like Shai or KCi and Jojo or some mess that I can't be bothered with. Even DruHill. I'd love to see Cherelle or a real group like EWF, Mint Condition or Frankie Beverly. I just hate when a good act is on tour with like 5 other acts I don't wanna see.Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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SCNDLS said: PatrickS77 said: LOL! Yeah! I would have taken Dawn, back in the "Don't let go" days... I wouldn't have touched Cindy, she kinda scared me... but nowadays,Cindy and Terry are the women to go! To sum it up, I too would take the two on the right! Cindy was always extra muscular and gave me a tranny vibe, even in the Hold On video. She's softened up a bit.  Cindy has always been fine! Y'all are trippin'! "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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JackieBlue said: phunkdaddy said: What you talkin bout willis i mean jackie blue?
What you got against 80's groups?
What would be wrong with them on a funky divas tour with klymaxx, the mary jane girls, and cherelle. Actually, I wouldn't mind those acts. It's usually the guy groups like Shai or KCi and Jojo or some mess that I can't be bothered with. Even DruHill. I'd love to see Cherelle or a real group like EWF, Mint Condition or Frankie Beverly. I just hate when a good act is on tour with like 5 other acts I don't wanna see.Okay we're on the same page. Shai, Jodeci,and dru hill are all 90's cookie cutter groups. Yeah envogue would fit in perfectly with maze, ewf, and mint condition especially. Don't laugh at my funk
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I'm glad to have the original FUNKY DIVAS of soul, nothing against Rhona Bennett because she is a sweetheart and can SANG!!!!! I hear also after the spot dates that they are on, THERE may be some recording going on and things look like they may be on the UPSWING and the girls are getting ALONG and I do hope this time it happens because they are so NEEDED in the industry, so they can show these girls HOW IT'S DONE.....ENVOGUE STYLE BABY!!!!! Time for a break down.....NEVER GONNA GET IT!!!!!BOP!!!!! | |
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sosgemini said: it's kinda sad that here we have one of the all time great female groups of all time and all we seem (including myself in this) to be able to do is ridicule how they look.
But it all coincides with how they were first presented to us - Pretty young thangs. That's the image they wanted to portray to the public. Well, we can't sit here and praise them for how fine they were and then not critique them on how "cracked-out" some of them look. It works both ways. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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