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Thread started 04/14/08 12:51am

steevetheeo

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American Idol - Has Seen Better Seasons...

I know most people don't claim to watch American Idol...

but Dammit, someone's watching it... I do, or rather I did.

I have always , admitted to doing so in the past, but this year, they lost me..


Everyone that I liked, Chekezie (?), Ramiele (?), that girl that did the Britney impressions... they were all knocked out early..

The themes haven't been very interesting IMHO, ie, Beatles songs (not too bad), but then the next week to have the Lennon/Mcartney song book (overkill).. then Inspirational songs.. Songs from the year of the singers' birth... my final straw was the week of Dolly Parton songs..

I can respect there attempt to inject some musical variety, but this wasnt the way to do it..

.. and people talk about Paula. It has become increasingly more obvious to me that Randy seems to be out of touch with music outside of the Rock Era of 70's and 80's, particularly R&B/Soul.

.. Surprisingly, I often agree with Simon, but it is evident that he lacks some knowledge in American music..

I guess thats enough for now. I could go on, but I'm starting to bore myself.
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Reply #1 posted 04/14/08 1:06am

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I love watching all the auditions where you see all the people who can't sing but think they can. We seem to get it real quick here. The season we saw here had this big gay Indian dude, with crazy ass earth mother hair in it who did this raindrop/ creative thing, that made me split my pants (I am floral, I am creative). And in South Carolina this black guy girl who were so down home and the other black guy who said the show was rigged, but when you get to the Top24 it gets boring. Here in New Zealand we had three seasons (2004-06) and all 3 idols were church going polynesians whose careers dissolved into oblivion. The last idol got arrested for loan sharking in the casino and never actually got the contract from Sony who egged out at the last moment
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Reply #2 posted 04/14/08 1:15am

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Thats kinda sad, but funny..

American Idol seems to have trouble marketing their Black artists, Fantasia seems to be the exception, but Reuben Studdard, Kimberly Locke, etc have had trouble getting a main stream following.

The current Idol, Jordin Sparks, also of the African American Persuasion is finally getting a little love on Pop and R&B radio with No Air,, no doubt because of collaboration with Chris Brown.
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Reply #3 posted 04/14/08 5:04am

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The contestants this season are much better singers overall than in past seasons, but there's not really any buzz going on about the show. Granted, it's in its seventh season, so the popularity would tail off at some point.

I think that the real problem with the show is that the people who win the competition are geared towards releasing bland, pre-packaged music. This isn't meant to denigrate the people who go on the show; for the most part they are really talented; but historically the most groundbreaking new music which has been released in this country usually comes way out of the musical mainstream. If American Idol had been around when the Jefferson Airplane, Bruce Springsteen, Duran Duran, or Nirvana had first come out, and those acts had been on the show, they would have never made it to the semifinals. The only reason that AI is disproportionately influential on today's music scene is because mainstream radio, MTV, and VH1 have largely abdicated their role in bringing new music to people.

Having said that, I can't wait to watch AI this week. The contestants sing Mariah Carey songs. I love Mariah, but this looks like a train wreck waiting to happen.

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Reply #4 posted 04/14/08 5:16am

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728huey said:

The contestants this season are much better singers overall than in past seasons, but there's not really any buzz going on about the show. Granted, it's in its seventh season, so the popularity would tail off at some point.

I think that the real problem with the show is that the people who win the competition are geared towards releasing bland, pre-packaged music. This isn't meant to denigrate the people who go on the show; for the most part they are really talented; but historically the most groundbreaking new music which has been released in this country usually comes way out of the musical mainstream. If American Idol had been around when the Jefferson Airplane, Bruce Springsteen, Duran Duran, or Nirvana had first come out, and those acts had been on the show, they would have never made it to the semifinals. The only reason that AI is disproportionately influential on today's music scene is because mainstream radio, MTV, and VH1 have largely abdicated their role in bringing new music to people.

Having said that, I can't wait to watch AI this week. The contestants sing Mariah Carey songs. I love Mariah, but this looks like a train wreck waiting to happen.

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here's how it will go:

syesha, the only one remotely on mariah's vocal level, will sing the biggest vocal song "vision of love" and get ragged on for taking on such a big song. brooke and jason will sing their usual down trodden acoustic cafe versions and get praised. david cook will turnsome song into an angry rock anthem and declared as genius; kristie lee will countrify and murder a song, but will wear a hot outfit and nobody will care; david archuletta will pick the most depressing song of the night and be declared brilliant. carly will pick a song that will come off as angry and strained and the judges won't like it. lol
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Reply #5 posted 04/14/08 5:19am

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I CANNOT WAIT UNTIL DISCO NIGHT...syesha is the only one who has any kind of versatility at all. that will be the train wreck night
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Reply #6 posted 04/14/08 5:40am

VoicesCarry

Could not believe it when Jason Cook sang his Tiny Tim cover of Somewhere Over The Rainbow and actually got PRAISED for that shit.

Who are they kidding? This show is a fucking joke.
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Reply #7 posted 04/14/08 6:28am

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here's how it will go:

syesha, the only one remotely on mariah's vocal level, will sing the biggest vocal song "vision of love" and get ragged on for taking on such a big song. brooke and jason will sing their usual down trodden acoustic cafe versions and get praised. david cook will turnsome song into an angry rock anthem and declared as genius; kristie lee will countrify and murder a song, but will wear a hot outfit and nobody will care; david archuletta will pick the most depressing song of the night and be declared brilliant. carly will pick a song that will come off as angry and strained and the judges won't like it. lol

Damn....I don't need 2 watch the show this week. U nailed it.
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Reply #8 posted 04/14/08 6:34am

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I used to watch the show, but like Huey said, the winners are all making pre-packaged music, and that's basically everything that's wrong with the music biz today. It's good that they're letting more "organic" singers like Bo Bice and Chris Daughtry into the finals, but still, none of them won.
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Reply #9 posted 04/14/08 6:42am

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Hopefully people are getting bored with it. Hell, I've only seen about 15 minutes of the show the entire time it's been on the air and that's all it took to bore the hell out of me.
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Reply #10 posted 04/14/08 6:44am

SoulAlive

I'm proud to say that I have never watched an episode of this show lol I didn't even watch the episode where Prince made an appearance.
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Reply #11 posted 04/14/08 6:45am

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VoicesCarry said:

Could not believe it when Jason Cook sang his Tiny Tim cover of Somewhere Over The Rainbow and actually got PRAISED for that shit.

Who are they kidding? This show is a fucking joke.



You might want to invest in some earplugs when you come to Hawaii lol

I got worn out on that version the first time I was here... then imagine my dismay when I went home and I started hearing it there. In my own home! confused It's a beautiful version, but.... ugh. Enough is enough confused
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Reply #12 posted 04/14/08 6:52am

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SoulAlive said:

I'm proud to say that I have never watched an episode of this show lol I didn't even watch the episode where Prince made an appearance.


I watched just to see if he was going to sell out and appear and he did. However, it did make me feel better though when I heard that he had a shitty attitude like he was better than everyone there (which is true) and that they weren't shit (which is also true). lol

It's not just a matter of just not watching the damn show. You can't escape the damn thing. Every time I turn on the TV Guide channel to see what is on TV, they are discussing the damn show and playing clips. Every so often, the shit is on Larry King. Hell, it's on The Today Show, it's all over the damn E Channel. Let the damn show air once for those who want to watch it but keep it off the other damn channels for those who can't stand the sight of it. lol
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Reply #13 posted 04/14/08 8:42am

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I stopped watching when Chikezie and Ramiele were voted off.Worst season ever imo,and I've had enough. lol
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Reply #14 posted 04/14/08 8:47am

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Ramiele had potential, but she never lived up to it. She picked mid-tempo stuff every week that didn't show off her voice. The voters gave her the benefit of the doubt longer than they should have. There's no question she can sing, and people remembered that, but at a certain point, when you're unspectacular week in and week out because of song choice, it's going to catch up to you.

Chikezie shot himself in the foot with all the Luther Vandross-style stuff. The weeks when he changed it up, he was phenomenal, he was safe. He bored the judges and audience to tears one too many times. shrug


That country girl needs to go. She won't. Not yet, because country has a huge audience and she's the only one up there catering to it.


I'm not sure why it was such a shock that the Australian guy went. He's really only had a couple of really good performances. Yeah, he'd never been in the bottom 3 before, but he was usually pretty weak. And he needs to stop moving around in that Michael Hutchence/Jim Morrison style, even when he's singing ballads. I couldn't stand to watch him, no matter how cute he was, because he looked like he was having a seizure.
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Reply #15 posted 04/14/08 9:04am

Graycap23

I can't see any of these people actually selling any records.
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Reply #16 posted 04/14/08 9:05am

sexxydancer

Brooke,Jason,and Kristie Lee shouldn't have made the finalz in the 1st place. neutral Garbage.
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Reply #17 posted 04/14/08 9:05am

sexxydancer

Graycap23 said:

I can't see any of these people actually selling any records.

Agreed.
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Reply #18 posted 04/14/08 9:06am

Graycap23

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Brooke,Jason,and Kristie Lee shouldn't have made the finalz in the 1st place. neutral Garbage.

Agreed.....that stupid look on Brooke's face every week is priceless.
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Reply #19 posted 04/14/08 9:13am

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Graycap23 said:

sexxydancer said:

Brooke,Jason,and Kristie Lee shouldn't have made the finalz in the 1st place. neutral Garbage.

Agreed.....that stupid look on Brooke's face every week is priceless.
And I hate that fake humble act of hers.I don't go out of my way 2 watch it anymore,but I'd love 2 c her face when her elimination comes. mad
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Reply #20 posted 04/14/08 9:23am

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sexxydancer said:

Graycap23 said:


Agreed.....that stupid look on Brooke's face every week is priceless.
And I hate that fake humble act of hers.I don't go out of my way 2 watch it anymore,but I'd love 2 c her face when her elimination comes. mad

U and me both.....
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Reply #21 posted 04/14/08 9:41am

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Raze said:

VoicesCarry said:

Could not believe it when Jason Cook sang his Tiny Tim cover of Somewhere Over The Rainbow and actually got PRAISED for that shit.

Who are they kidding? This show is a fucking joke.



You might want to invest in some earplugs when you come to Hawaii lol

I got worn out on that version the first time I was here... then imagine my dismay when I went home and I started hearing it there. In my own home! confused It's a beautiful version, but.... ugh. Enough is enough confused


Thing is, these cover versions that they're doing (at least Somewhere OVer the Rainbow and Billie Jean covers) are basically covers of covers. Jason Castro's version of Somewhere... is a cover of someone else's version and David Cook's version of Billie Jean was just like Chris Cornell's version of the song. Can't they even do original remakes? confused
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Reply #22 posted 04/14/08 11:04am

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Last week Idol ratings was the lowest in years.







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Reply #23 posted 04/14/08 11:07am

VoicesCarry

Anyone else feel David Archuleta might be an OK vocalist if they just gave him another 5 years to grow some pubes or something? Seriously, he is like my nightmare twink.
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Reply #24 posted 04/14/08 11:09am

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I've never been into the singers enough to consider buying one of their albums, but thought the show was good television.

But I'm definitely bored this season. I just don't care anymore, and I've see it all before.
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Reply #25 posted 04/14/08 11:11am

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VoicesCarry said:

Anyone else feel David Archuleta might be an OK vocalist if they just gave him another 5 years to grow some pubes or something? Seriously, he is like my nightmare twink.


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I couldnt agree more

He would have been better off waiting a few years and getting into the buisness without Idol. Idol will destroy his career before he becomes a man
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Reply #26 posted 04/14/08 11:16am

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NDRU said:

I've never been into the singers enough to consider buying one of their albums, but thought the show was good television.

But I'm definitely bored this season. I just don't care anymore, and I've see it all before.



I knew we were in trouble when they kept drilling into our head "This is going to be the best season of talent ever" .

I like David Cook, David Archelleta and Brooke . But i dont see myself going out of my way to buy any of their music after the show...all the rest are just boring. And I in no way see what the appeal of Jason Castro is shrug
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Reply #27 posted 04/14/08 11:31am

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NDRU said:

I've never been into the singers enough to consider buying one of their albums, but thought the show was good television.

But I'm definitely bored this season. I just don't care anymore, and I've see it all before.



I knew we were in trouble when they kept drilling into our head "This is going to be the best season of talent ever" .

I like David Cook, David Archelleta and Brooke . But i dont see myself going out of my way to buy any of their music after the show...all the rest are just boring. And I in no way see what the appeal of Jason Castro is shrug


Yeah, they all have their schtick. David Cook does a "shocking" Daughtry-styled cover of a song. Brooke tinkles on her piano in a folksy way and looks sorry for bothering you. Jason eats some pot brownies and pretends he's performing at his local coffee bar (and the judges go wild...I don't get it....I also don't get why the teenage girls think he's hot...maybe with some different hair he might be cute?).
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VoicesCarry said:

newpower99 said:




I knew we were in trouble when they kept drilling into our head "This is going to be the best season of talent ever" .

I like David Cook, David Archelleta and Brooke . But i dont see myself going out of my way to buy any of their music after the show...all the rest are just boring. And I in no way see what the appeal of Jason Castro is shrug


Yeah, they all have their schtick. David Cook does a "shocking" Daughtry-styled cover of a song. Brooke tinkles on her piano in a folksy way and looks sorry for bothering you. Jason eats some pot brownies and pretends he's performing at his local coffee bar (and the judges go wild...I don't get it....I also don't get why the teenage girls think he's hot...maybe with some different hair he might be cute?).



I love your take this. lol . yeah Castro need to kill the hair and he might be cute. But still when he speaks he comes off as being dumber than a rock.
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Reply #29 posted 04/14/08 12:01pm

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newpower99 said:

VoicesCarry said:



Yeah, they all have their schtick. David Cook does a "shocking" Daughtry-styled cover of a song. Brooke tinkles on her piano in a folksy way and looks sorry for bothering you. Jason eats some pot brownies and pretends he's performing at his local coffee bar (and the judges go wild...I don't get it....I also don't get why the teenage girls think he's hot...maybe with some different hair he might be cute?).



I love your take this. lol . yeah Castro need to kill the hair and he might be cute. But still when he speaks he comes off as being dumber than a rock.

I thought I was the only one who thought like this. lol
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