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Reply #90 posted 04/19/08 5:19pm

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He's a married man with daughters.... what's up with his wife ?
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Reply #91 posted 04/19/08 5:39pm

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banks said:

He's a married man with daughters.... what's up with his wife ?


She JUST left him last year and I don't even think they're divorced. That bitch is crazy to have him around their kids! disbelief
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Reply #92 posted 04/19/08 6:08pm

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I'm sorry, but if it's a grown ass man involved then that teen, hot draws and all, is a VICTIM not an accomplice. The age of consent is 17 or 18 (depending on the state) for a reason. And any parent that allows their 14, 15, 16, EVEN 17 year-old to be used and abused by a grown ass man are pimps and complicit in the victimization. Regardless of a girl's sexual history or experience, there's no justification for it. At least Prince married Mayte. . . . when she was LEGAL.


There are states where the age of consent is 16. The law is the law, but the reality of the situation isn't so black and white. We know Rape Kelly targets 14 year olds and can only imagine what else he's done with the children of crazy, money-hungry parents and we won't comment on P. whistling

There are other situations though where these girls want college boys or teen guys smash their auntie's horny best friend. I'd hardly call them victims.

You even said it yourself... http://prince.org/msg/105/264876?&pg=1

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alwayslate said:


ha! I didn't want to be the one to say it! lol lol


Shoot, I been thinking she was being overly sensitive. Girl, you in high school ain't nuthin wrong with a man telling you, you purty. wink lol


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Reply #93 posted 04/19/08 6:12pm

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SCNDLS said:

banks said:

He's a married man with daughters.... what's up with his wife ?


She JUST left him last year and I don't even think they're divorced. That bitch is crazy to have him around their kids! disbelief


She once tried him for assault charges but I think she dropped them.
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Reply #94 posted 04/19/08 6:13pm

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Here is the reason why Michael is seen as guilty. The children that were involved in Michael's case were white...and you know, you cannot mess with a white child and get away with it. Whereas, the girl that is involved in the R. Kelly case is black. When it comes to something like that, people seem to look the other way. However, I will say this, the parents in the R. Kelly case are just as guilty as Kelly is. Why? What in the hell is my 13 year old daughter doing with this man....at this time of day? Her parents in my opinion, were paid off not to say a word. This shows how much they love their daughter and just how much people are afraid to tell R. Kelly, NO!!.

Neither of the kids in Michael's cases were white. The first one was Jewish and Eurasian and the one in the 2003 was Latino


They might not have been "White", but they definitely were not black. In this country, there are two things that are definite, one is that sex sells and two, when you are a successful black man there is always going to be somebody there who will try and knock you down. Michael was at one time, the biggest selling artist in the world. The white people adored him. Do you really think, that this would last long without someone trying to knock him down? It was only a matter of time before someone would try to destroy him. In the case of Kelly, since his victim was black, it really did not matter cause "He did not do it to one of ours" and his sex tape makes for good watching...To this day, there is more evidence against Kelly than there was against Michael. But, because Michael is who he is and he caters to now, what is a mostly white audience, there was more of a need to bring him down. While Kelly, stills believes that he can fly.
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Reply #95 posted 04/19/08 6:54pm

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Dance said:

SCNDLS said:

I'm sorry, but if it's a grown ass man involved then that teen, hot draws and all, is a VICTIM not an accomplice. The age of consent is 17 or 18 (depending on the state) for a reason. And any parent that allows their 14, 15, 16, EVEN 17 year-old to be used and abused by a grown ass man are pimps and complicit in the victimization. Regardless of a girl's sexual history or experience, there's no justification for it. At least Prince married Mayte. . . . when she was LEGAL.


There are states where the age of consent is 16. The law is the law, but the reality of the situation isn't so black and white. We know Rape Kelly targets 14 year olds and can only imagine what else he's done with the children of crazy, money-hungry parents and we won't comment on P. whistling

There are other situations though where these girls want college boys or teen guys smash their auntie's horny best friend. I'd hardly call them victims.

You even said it yourself... http://prince.org/msg/105/264876?&pg=1



Whatevah, Dance. . . the context of this discussion is COMPLETELY different than the joking tone of the thread you pulled that quote from.

And I'm talking about THIS case. R. Kelly is a sexual predator and I don't agree with blaming minors for being preyed on and victimized by him. I don't care if a 16 year old walks in front of him nekkid, as a grown ass man he should know that it's inappropriate and usually illegal to go there. Also, there's a bit of a difference between someone your age or a few years older hittin it than someone who is 30 years old screwing a 15 year old. Big damn difference.
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Reply #96 posted 04/19/08 7:13pm

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SCNDLS said:

Dance said:



There are states where the age of consent is 16. The law is the law, but the reality of the situation isn't so black and white. We know Rape Kelly targets 14 year olds and can only imagine what else he's done with the children of crazy, money-hungry parents and we won't comment on P. whistling

There are other situations though where these girls want college boys or teen guys smash their auntie's horny best friend. I'd hardly call them victims.

You even said it yourself... http://prince.org/msg/105/264876?&pg=1



Whatevah, Dance. . . the context of this discussion is COMPLETELY different than the joking tone of the thread you pulled that quote from.

And I'm talking about THIS case. R. Kelly is a sexual predator and I don't agree with blaming minors for being preyed on and victimized by him. I don't care if a 16 year old walks in front of him nekkid, as a grown ass man he should know that it's inappropriate and usually illegal to go there. Also, there's a bit of a difference between someone your age or a few years older hittin it than someone who is 30 years old screwing a 15 year old. Big damn difference.


I agree SCNDLS, but the parents of this girl still has to bear most of the responsibility. Especially, because she is a minor. No 16 year old girl would in her right mind,"walk nekkid" in front of any man if she knew that doing such a thing would get her a foot in her ass.
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Reply #97 posted 04/19/08 7:35pm

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shorttrini said:

bboy87 said:


Neither of the kids in Michael's cases were white. The first one was Jewish and Eurasian and the one in the 2003 was Latino


They might not have been "White", but they definitely were not black. In this country, there are two things that are definite, one is that sex sells and two, when you are a successful black man there is always going to be somebody there who will try and knock you down. Michael was at one time, the biggest selling artist in the world. The white people adored him. Do you really think, that this would last long without someone trying to knock him down? It was only a matter of time before someone would try to destroy him. In the case of Kelly, since his victim was black, it really did not matter cause "He did not do it to one of ours" and his sex tape makes for good watching...To this day, there is more evidence against Kelly than there was against Michael. But, because Michael is who he is and he caters to now, what is a mostly white audience, there was more of a need to bring him down. While Kelly, stills believes that he can fly.


Great job coming off as the type of guy who would support OJ,MJ,Kells etc. Just because their black. Look at the facts.
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Reply #98 posted 04/19/08 7:47pm

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2Jay said:

shorttrini said:



They might not have been "White", but they definitely were not black. In this country, there are two things that are definite, one is that sex sells and two, when you are a successful black man there is always going to be somebody there who will try and knock you down. Michael was at one time, the biggest selling artist in the world. The white people adored him. Do you really think, that this would last long without someone trying to knock him down? It was only a matter of time before someone would try to destroy him. In the case of Kelly, since his victim was black, it really did not matter cause "He did not do it to one of ours" and his sex tape makes for good watching...To this day, there is more evidence against Kelly than there was against Michael. But, because Michael is who he is and he caters to now, what is a mostly white audience, there was more of a need to bring him down. While Kelly, stills believes that he can fly.


Great job coming off as the type of guy who would support OJ,MJ,Kells etc. Just because their black. Look at the facts.

I only support Michael

I don't know about OJ

Ya'll already know how I feel about the other one
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Reply #99 posted 04/20/08 8:32am

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shorttrini said:

SCNDLS said:




Whatevah, Dance. . . the context of this discussion is COMPLETELY different than the joking tone of the thread you pulled that quote from.

And I'm talking about THIS case. R. Kelly is a sexual predator and I don't agree with blaming minors for being preyed on and victimized by him. I don't care if a 16 year old walks in front of him nekkid, as a grown ass man he should know that it's inappropriate and usually illegal to go there. Also, there's a bit of a difference between someone your age or a few years older hittin it than someone who is 30 years old screwing a 15 year old. Big damn difference.


I agree SCNDLS, but the parents of this girl still has to bear most of the responsibility. Especially, because she is a minor. No 16 year old girl would in her right mind,"walk nekkid" in front of any man if she knew that doing such a thing would get her a foot in her ass.


I don't know if I'd say "most of the responsibility" but definitiely some. R. Kelly is a predator. This 14 year-old girl was the niece of a singer he was working with AND having sex with. So it's conceivable that the girl would be around and he prolly knew her for awhile before the video. So her parents may have had no idea this was going on.

But after it was revealed, they have definitely been complicit in covering shit up and taking his money in exchange for their silence. At any rate, I don't think blaming a 14 year-old for this situation is at all fair. This is exactly why MOST rape victims don't come forward because they know they will be crucified for their own sexual past.
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Reply #100 posted 04/20/08 11:03am

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Black White...WHATEVER !!!
Can we throw his Ass in Jail please even if its just to never have to get another song titled..You remind me of my jeep !!!!! confused
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Reply #101 posted 04/20/08 4:07pm

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SCNDLS said:

shorttrini said:



I agree SCNDLS, but the parents of this girl still has to bear most of the responsibility. Especially, because she is a minor. No 16 year old girl would in her right mind,"walk nekkid" in front of any man if she knew that doing such a thing would get her a foot in her ass.


I don't know if I'd say "most of the responsibility" but definitiely some. R. Kelly is a predator. This 14 year-old girl was the niece of a singer he was working with AND having sex with. So it's conceivable that the girl would be around and he prolly knew her for awhile before the video. So her parents may have had no idea this was going on.

But after it was revealed, they have definitely been complicit in covering shit up and taking his money in exchange for their silence. At any rate, I don't think blaming a 14 year-old for this situation is at all fair. This is exactly why MOST rape victims don't come forward because they know they will be crucified for their own sexual past.

I agree w/ you completely. It's pretty sick when people wanna come down on the girl in this. She's 14 years old - I don't give a shit how grown any 14 year old thinks they are, she's still very very young, still a child who may not know better. The ADULTS around her should know better, @ the time R.K. was over 30 years old - why excuse him so easily? There's a reason this shit is indeed a CRIME. I'd like to the see the mf's who blame the girl be totally cool w/ a 30+ year old man fucking their daughter/niece/cousin of that age hammer


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