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Reply #30 posted 04/18/08 5:36pm

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bboy87 said:

Here's another thing


R. Kelly's scandal started back in 2001 or 2002

Michael Jackson's scandal started in 2003

Kobe Bryant's scandal started around that same time


R. Kelly is the only one who hasn't gone to trial


HOW is this possible???? disbelief You have video evidence. Case closed. hammer What's the damn problem?
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Reply #31 posted 04/18/08 5:37pm

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YES, this shit should be brought up. & the reason it's taken SO long is b/c bottom line - mf's on mass (the record buying public, the "community") don't care about what happens to young Black women/girls, bottom fucking line. It's a damn shame that mf's wanna pretend it wasn't him so they can still spin his shitty records - what happened to protecting CHILDREN?? ALL CHILDREN??? hammer


nod Sad but true. sigh We're still viewed as objects by many of our own men so why should anybody else (i.e. the justice system) care.
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Reply #32 posted 04/18/08 5:43pm

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SCNDLS said:

But they wanted to crucify MJ, yeah his behavior was hella inappropriate but nothing anywhere near what this nucca did.

nod

I've thought through every possible angle, and I just don't get it. MJ may have behaved inappropriately, but there has still never been any solid evidence against him, he was found innocent by a jury, and several of those involved in the accusations are decidedly suspect.And yet ol' Mikey's a villian for the ages.

R. Kelly, on the other hand, once married a definitely underaged Aaliyah, and is shown through video evidence to have had sex with at least one more underaged girl. And yet, he's more popular now than he ever was.



When it comes right down to it, the only thing I can imagine to account for the difference in public and media regard of these two is the genders of their (alledged) victims. sigh Maybe had Michael gotten himself suspected of touching ltitle girls, people would be more forgiving. And maybe if R. was videotaped having sex with a little boy, his career would be the one in the shitter.



I disagree...he's definetley not as popular, but i think that people in my community was more upset when that shit went down with Jay-Z than when those tapes surfaced... I hear women blaming the young lady (talking about she knew what she was doing) and i always get in their Ass ! mad
mad mad mad
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Reply #33 posted 04/18/08 5:47pm

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banks said:

meow85 said:


nod

I've thought through every possible angle, and I just don't get it. MJ may have behaved inappropriately, but there has still never been any solid evidence against him, he was found innocent by a jury, and several of those involved in the accusations are decidedly suspect.And yet ol' Mikey's a villian for the ages.

R. Kelly, on the other hand, once married a definitely underaged Aaliyah, and is shown through video evidence to have had sex with at least one more underaged girl. And yet, he's more popular now than he ever was.



When it comes right down to it, the only thing I can imagine to account for the difference in public and media regard of these two is the genders of their (alledged) victims. sigh Maybe had Michael gotten himself suspected of touching ltitle girls, people would be more forgiving. And maybe if R. was videotaped having sex with a little boy, his career would be the one in the shitter.



I disagree...he's definetley not as popular, but i think that people in my community was more upset when that shit went down with Jay-Z than when those tapes surfaced... I hear women blaming the young lady (talking about she knew what she was doing) and i always get in their Ass ! mad
mad mad mad


What shit with Jay-Z?
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Reply #34 posted 04/18/08 5:53pm

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banks said:

meow85 said:


nod

I've thought through every possible angle, and I just don't get it. MJ may have behaved inappropriately, but there has still never been any solid evidence against him, he was found innocent by a jury, and several of those involved in the accusations are decidedly suspect.And yet ol' Mikey's a villian for the ages.

R. Kelly, on the other hand, once married a definitely underaged Aaliyah, and is shown through video evidence to have had sex with at least one more underaged girl. And yet, he's more popular now than he ever was.



When it comes right down to it, the only thing I can imagine to account for the difference in public and media regard of these two is the genders of their (alledged) victims. sigh Maybe had Michael gotten himself suspected of touching ltitle girls, people would be more forgiving. And maybe if R. was videotaped having sex with a little boy, his career would be the one in the shitter.



I disagree...he's definetley not as popular, but i think that people in my community was more upset when that shit went down with Jay-Z than when those tapes surfaced... I hear women blaming the young lady (talking about she knew what she was doing) and i always get in their Ass ! mad
mad mad mad


Yeah people were losing their damn mind when they heard what went on with him and Jay-Z. People who stuck with him after 2002 turned on him after that, lol.
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Reply #35 posted 04/18/08 5:56pm

Timmy84

SCNDLS said:

banks said:




I disagree...he's definetley not as popular, but i think that people in my community was more upset when that shit went down with Jay-Z than when those tapes surfaced... I hear women blaming the young lady (talking about she knew what she was doing) and i always get in their Ass ! mad
mad mad mad


What shit with Jay-Z?


He and Jay-Z had a tour together and Kells often would show up late or will not show up and be at McDonald's acting as a cook and sometimes would leave the show because the lights weren't shining on him brightly enough. The last time Kells was on the show with Jay, he left the show early because he saw "guns waving" in the audience seats and he left "fearing for his life". Jay and his people got so pissed off that one of his brother-in-laws/associates tasered him with a pepper spray. Jay took Kells off the tour after that.
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Reply #36 posted 04/18/08 6:00pm

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Timmy84 said:

SCNDLS said:



What shit with Jay-Z?


He and Jay-Z had a tour together and Kells often would show up late or will not show up and be at McDonald's acting as a cook and sometimes would leave the show because the lights weren't shining on him brightly enough. The last time Kells was on the show with Jay, he left the show early because he saw "guns waving" in the audience seats and he left "fearing for his life". Jay and his people got so pissed off that one of his brother-in-laws/associates tasered him with a pepper spray. Jay took Kells off the tour after that.


And R Kelly sued Jay
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Reply #37 posted 04/18/08 6:00pm

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Timmy84 said:

SCNDLS said:



What shit with Jay-Z?


He and Jay-Z had a tour together and Kells often would show up late or will not show up and be at McDonald's acting as a cook and sometimes would leave the show because the lights weren't shining on him brightly enough. The last time Kells was on the show with Jay, he left the show early because he saw "guns waving" in the audience seats and he left "fearing for his life". Jay and his people got so pissed off that one of his brother-in-laws/associates tasered him with a pepper spray. Jay took Kells off the tour after that.


Oh, that! Yeah, I saw that wackass tour here in Dallas. disbelief Ironically, Jigga dated Aaliyah too. shhh
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Reply #38 posted 04/18/08 6:00pm

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I hope they quickly send his ass away...
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Reply #39 posted 04/18/08 6:04pm

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SCNDLS said:

Timmy84 said:



He and Jay-Z had a tour together and Kells often would show up late or will not show up and be at McDonald's acting as a cook and sometimes would leave the show because the lights weren't shining on him brightly enough. The last time Kells was on the show with Jay, he left the show early because he saw "guns waving" in the audience seats and he left "fearing for his life". Jay and his people got so pissed off that one of his brother-in-laws/associates tasered him with a pepper spray. Jay took Kells off the tour after that.


Oh, that! Yeah, I saw that wackass tour here in Dallas. disbelief Ironically, Jigga dated Aaliyah too. shhh


I know Dame Dash/Jay's ex bussiness Partner was Dating baby girl... never heard anything about Jay & Aaliyah
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Reply #40 posted 04/18/08 6:05pm

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banks said:

Timmy84 said:



He and Jay-Z had a tour together and Kells often would show up late or will not show up and be at McDonald's acting as a cook and sometimes would leave the show because the lights weren't shining on him brightly enough. The last time Kells was on the show with Jay, he left the show early because he saw "guns waving" in the audience seats and he left "fearing for his life". Jay and his people got so pissed off that one of his brother-in-laws/associates tasered him with a pepper spray. Jay took Kells off the tour after that.


And R Kelly sued Jay


And that suit was still pending as of me typing right now. evillol I think they'd drop it eventually.
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Reply #41 posted 04/18/08 6:05pm

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banks said:

SCNDLS said:



Oh, that! Yeah, I saw that wackass tour here in Dallas. disbelief Ironically, Jigga dated Aaliyah too. shhh


I know Dame Dash/Jay's ex bussiness Partner was Dating baby girl... never heard anything about Jay & Aaliyah


There ARE pictures of Jay and Aaliyah together, but I think it was AFTER Aaliyah came of age. shhh
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Reply #42 posted 04/18/08 6:09pm

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Timmy84 said:

SCNDLS said:



What shit with Jay-Z?


He and Jay-Z had a tour together and Kells often would show up late or will not show up and be at McDonald's acting as a cook and sometimes would leave the show because the lights weren't shining on him brightly enough. The last time Kells was on the show with Jay, he left the show early because he saw "guns waving" in the audience seats and he left "fearing for his life". Jay and his people got so pissed off that one of his brother-in-laws/associates tasered him with a pepper spray. Jay took Kells off the tour after that.


That happened here in NY the night before i went to the show and let me tell you,Jay-Z was on the radio after all that went down assuring all of us that had tickets to come on out the following night, because he was gonna take care of us and did he ever..along with Jay we got Mary J Blige, Busta, Diddy and Mase, Usher, Destiny Child, Foxy Brown and i'm sure i'm missing a few... it was a great night at the Garden
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Reply #43 posted 04/18/08 6:11pm

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banks said:

meow85 said:


nod

I've thought through every possible angle, and I just don't get it. MJ may have behaved inappropriately, but there has still never been any solid evidence against him, he was found innocent by a jury, and several of those involved in the accusations are decidedly suspect.And yet ol' Mikey's a villian for the ages.

R. Kelly, on the other hand, once married a definitely underaged Aaliyah, and is shown through video evidence to have had sex with at least one more underaged girl. And yet, he's more popular now than he ever was.



When it comes right down to it, the only thing I can imagine to account for the difference in public and media regard of these two is the genders of their (alledged) victims. sigh Maybe had Michael gotten himself suspected of touching ltitle girls, people would be more forgiving. And maybe if R. was videotaped having sex with a little boy, his career would be the one in the shitter.



I disagree...he's definetley not as popular, but i think that people in my community was more upset when that shit went down with Jay-Z than when those tapes surfaced... I hear women blaming the young lady (talking about she knew what she was doing) and i always get in their Ass ! mad
mad mad mad

I heard that same exact shit. Saying that she looked older.

Look at pictures of that girl, she looked underage! And in the clip where he's doing the crime, it was shown in some special where they toured his house

Another thing. Michael's the "weirdo" and the "freak" so people think it's easier to believe. R. Kelly was the girl who sang I Believe I Can Fly and shit, plus he made R&B music that people like, so they refused to believe it
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Reply #44 posted 04/18/08 6:11pm

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Timmy84 said:

banks said:



I know Dame Dash/Jay's ex bussiness Partner was Dating baby girl... never heard anything about Jay & Aaliyah


There ARE pictures of Jay and Aaliyah together, but I think it was AFTER Aaliyah came of age. shhh


Yeah i've seen pics of them together but i always thought she was around because of her relationship with Dame.. this is still when him and Jay were tight
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Reply #45 posted 04/18/08 6:12pm

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banks said:

Timmy84 said:



He and Jay-Z had a tour together and Kells often would show up late or will not show up and be at McDonald's acting as a cook and sometimes would leave the show because the lights weren't shining on him brightly enough. The last time Kells was on the show with Jay, he left the show early because he saw "guns waving" in the audience seats and he left "fearing for his life". Jay and his people got so pissed off that one of his brother-in-laws/associates tasered him with a pepper spray. Jay took Kells off the tour after that.


That happened here in NY the night before i went to the show and let me tell you,Jay-Z was on the radio after all that went down assuring all of us that had tickets to come on out the following night, because he was gonna take care of us and did he ever..along with Jay we got Mary J Blige, Busta, Diddy and Mase, Usher, Destiny Child, Foxy Brown and i'm sure i'm missing a few... it was a great night at the Garden

Diddy and Mase?!

I would've asked for my money back! lol
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Reply #46 posted 04/18/08 6:13pm

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banks said:

SCNDLS said:



Oh, that! Yeah, I saw that wackass tour here in Dallas. disbelief Ironically, Jigga dated Aaliyah too. shhh


I know Dame Dash/Jay's ex bussiness Partner was Dating baby girl... never heard anything about Jay & Aaliyah


Dame dated her AFTER Jay did.

One of my best friends died on the plane with her. sad rose pray
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Reply #47 posted 04/18/08 6:13pm

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bboy87 said:

banks said:




I disagree...he's definetley not as popular, but i think that people in my community was more upset when that shit went down with Jay-Z than when those tapes surfaced... I hear women blaming the young lady (talking about she knew what she was doing) and i always get in their Ass ! mad
mad mad mad

I heard that same exact shit. Saying that she looked older.

Look at pictures of that girl, she looked underage! And in the clip where he's doing the crime, it was shown in some special where they toured his house

Another thing. Michael's the "weirdo" and the "freak" so people think it's easier to believe. R. Kelly was the girl who sang I Believe I Can Fly and shit, plus he made R&B music that people like, so they refused to believe it


Yeah the room where the crime took place was featured in a Vibe Magazine spread... you know he got rid of that house soon after the tape surfaced
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Reply #48 posted 04/18/08 6:15pm

Timmy84

banks said:

Timmy84 said:



He and Jay-Z had a tour together and Kells often would show up late or will not show up and be at McDonald's acting as a cook and sometimes would leave the show because the lights weren't shining on him brightly enough. The last time Kells was on the show with Jay, he left the show early because he saw "guns waving" in the audience seats and he left "fearing for his life". Jay and his people got so pissed off that one of his brother-in-laws/associates tasered him with a pepper spray. Jay took Kells off the tour after that.


That happened here in NY the night before i went to the show and let me tell you,Jay-Z was on the radio after all that went down assuring all of us that had tickets to come on out the following night, because he was gonna take care of us and did he ever..along with Jay we got Mary J Blige, Busta, Diddy and Mase, Usher, Destiny Child, Foxy Brown and i'm sure i'm missing a few... it was a great night at the Garden


Yeah I heard about it! smile
There were pictures of Jay, Busta, Mary and 'em... the remaining dates were changed to "Jay-Z and Friends". I think Beyonce was on that show too.
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Reply #49 posted 04/18/08 6:16pm

Timmy84

banks said:

bboy87 said:


I heard that same exact shit. Saying that she looked older.

Look at pictures of that girl, she looked underage! And in the clip where he's doing the crime, it was shown in some special where they toured his house

Another thing. Michael's the "weirdo" and the "freak" so people think it's easier to believe. R. Kelly was the girl who sang I Believe I Can Fly and shit, plus he made R&B music that people like, so they refused to believe it


Yeah the room where the crime took place was featured in a Vibe Magazine spread... you know he got rid of that house soon after the tape surfaced


I heard the room was also shown on that BET fake Cribs show he was doing.
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Reply #50 posted 04/18/08 6:16pm

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SCNDLS said:

banks said:



I know Dame Dash/Jay's ex bussiness Partner was Dating baby girl... never heard anything about Jay & Aaliyah


Dame dated her AFTER Jay did.

One of my best friends died on the plane with her. sad rose pray


oh ok...sorry about your friend
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Reply #51 posted 04/18/08 6:16pm

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banks said:

meow85 said:


nod

I've thought through every possible angle, and I just don't get it. MJ may have behaved inappropriately, but there has still never been any solid evidence against him, he was found innocent by a jury, and several of those involved in the accusations are decidedly suspect.And yet ol' Mikey's a villian for the ages.

R. Kelly, on the other hand, once married a definitely underaged Aaliyah, and is shown through video evidence to have had sex with at least one more underaged girl. And yet, he's more popular now than he ever was.



When it comes right down to it, the only thing I can imagine to account for the difference in public and media regard of these two is the genders of their (alledged) victims. sigh Maybe had Michael gotten himself suspected of touching ltitle girls, people would be more forgiving. And maybe if R. was videotaped having sex with a little boy, his career would be the one in the shitter.



I disagree...he's definetley not as popular, but i think that people in my community was more upset when that shit went down with Jay-Z than when those tapes surfaced... I hear women blaming the young lady (talking about she knew what she was doing) and i always get in their Ass ! mad
mad mad mad


In my area, R. Kelly gets more radio play now than he did before and his singles stick around forever on the Canadian charts. Meanwhile, many stations still have a carpet ban on any and all MJ or Jackson 5 material.
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Reply #52 posted 04/18/08 6:18pm

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meow85 said:

banks said:




I disagree...he's definetley not as popular, but i think that people in my community was more upset when that shit went down with Jay-Z than when those tapes surfaced... I hear women blaming the young lady (talking about she knew what she was doing) and i always get in their Ass ! mad
mad mad mad


In my area, R. Kelly gets more radio play now than he did before and his singles stick around forever on the Canadian charts. Meanwhile, many stations still have a carpet ban on any and all MJ or Jackson 5 material.

That's exactly what I'm talking about mad
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Reply #53 posted 04/18/08 6:19pm

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banks said:

SCNDLS said:



Dame dated her AFTER Jay did.

One of my best friends died on the plane with her. sad rose pray


oh ok...sorry about your friend


Thanks, hun. She worked at Jive (Kelly and Aaliyah's label) when Aaliyah first came out. They all knew what was going on, it was common knowledge. But her parents didn't pursue it legally to protect her budding career. disbelief Crazy!
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Reply #54 posted 04/18/08 6:20pm

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SCNDLS said:

banks said:



oh ok...sorry about your friend


Thanks, hun. She worked at Jive (Kelly and Aaliyah's label) when Aaliyah first came out. They all knew what was going on, it was common knowledge. But her parents didn't pursue it legally to protect her budding career. disbelief Crazy!


Yeah that was sad. sad
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Reply #55 posted 04/18/08 6:24pm

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bboy87 said:

banks said:



That happened here in NY the night before i went to the show and let me tell you,Jay-Z was on the radio after all that went down assuring all of us that had tickets to come on out the following night, because he was gonna take care of us and did he ever..along with Jay we got Mary J Blige, Busta, Diddy and Mase, Usher, Destiny Child, Foxy Brown and i'm sure i'm missing a few... it was a great night at the Garden


Diddy and Mase?!

I would've asked for my money back! lol


It was after Mase had left to become a preacher so it good to see them back together for the night biggrin
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Reply #56 posted 04/18/08 6:24pm

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You guys remember about year or 2 ago when he was bragging about how he was the Malcom X, the Muhammad Ali, and the MLK of the generation?


NEGRO PLEASE!
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Reply #57 posted 04/18/08 6:30pm

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meow85 said:

banks said:




I disagree...he's definetley not as popular, but i think that people in my community was more upset when that shit went down with Jay-Z than when those tapes surfaced... I hear women blaming the young lady (talking about she knew what she was doing) and i always get in their Ass ! mad
mad mad mad


In my area, R. Kelly gets more radio play now than he did before and his singles stick around forever on the Canadian charts. Meanwhile, many stations still have a carpet ban on any and all MJ or Jackson 5 material.


I hear you.. I live in NYC and when all that shit went down Ed Lover who had a radio show put him on blast, apparently it was known in the bizz that he had a thing for young girls... and i'm not gonna say that NYC wasn't bumping that Step in the name of love.. IMHO opinion i think that he has lost fans because of this..But obviously not enough sad
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Reply #58 posted 04/18/08 6:31pm

Timmy84

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You guys remember about year or 2 ago when he was bragging about how he was the Malcom X, the Muhammad Ali, and the MLK of the generation?


NEGRO PLEASE!


Yep, lol.
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Reply #59 posted 04/18/08 7:09pm

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SCNDLS said:

To THIS day I have NEVER understood how this child molester didn't go to prison for not only marrying Aaliyah but having sex with her as well. As much as I loved her, part of me hated the fact that her parents allowed that shit to be swept under the rug for the sake of her career. disbelief

Furthermore, the fact that he was screwing his jump-off's 14 year-old niece shows how twisted and sick this fucker is. hammer Compounding the problem is the black community's AND the music industry's continued support of this criminal like it ain't shit. But they wanted to crucify MJ, yeah his behavior was hella inappropriate but nothing anywhere near what this nucca did.

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