I just found out how well this album has done, it has sold around 1.7 million on the world chart and a further 550,000 in America, 2.2 million copies sold in total since February.

This just shows that if Michael were to release an album he still has major sellability.

Actually I cant think of an album this year which has sold 2million worldwide as yet, maybe someone can correct me on that.

It's doing very well, but that doesn't mean there's a big market for new MJ. I remember when Invincible was released here in the UK in 2001. It bombed totally. Within a month it left the Top 40 all together. Then just two years later he released his greatest hits album The Number Ones and it sold by the bucketload, even though he'd been arrested on charges of paedopholia. It was obvious right then, that he'd become a nostalgia act. People had warm feelings for what he'd done in the past, but distaste for his current state. A friend of mine who can't stand what Michael's become bought Thriller 25 two weeks ago. It reminds him of his childhood I guess. He would not have the same feelings about a brand new MJ album.

hmm but... what if the media were to say... 'by the way that new mj cd is hott' would hoards of ppl go buy it or would his millions of fans buy it anyway.

We shall see, lol.

I'm predicting 2009.

midnightmover said:

Invincible was out of the Top 40 in 5 weeks and was out of the US top 40 in 16

It's pretty much the less favorite for alot of fans

I still remember waiting for that shit

also can i just add that invincible sold half a million copies with one single release and video and zero promotion after that. That was michaels choice to stop promoting his own album and rebel against the record company. Its sales were also very strong in the U.S., it sold around 2.2million copies after 8 weeks.

bboy87 said:

Damn, in only five weeks?

FunkyBrotha said:

Would've been stronger if Michael decided to promote it but that's when he had problems with Sony and that whole "devilish" rant episode.

i think thats one of his best quotes 'very very devilish' .. its brilliant!

FunkyBrotha said:

I think it would be successful. It'll be in the top 5 for sure.....if it gets released

I'm glad invincible didnt do well. It's shit.

8 millions worldwide is still good though I guess

I was kinda hoping Thriller 25 would flop, so maybe he'd work on new material as religiously as he did on past albums.

bboy87 said:

LMAO! Like someone said just a minute ago on the KOP, when it gets released, Will.I.Am will have dreads down on the floor and (I said) they'd be gray. I bet you Michael will still have that Hawaiian Silky lacefront.

LightOfArt said:

Are you crazy?

It contains my favorite MJ jam..."whatever happens"

I worship that song!

Timmy84 said:

It'll be a "back in the day" press and curl style lacefront

bboy87 said:

Or a vintage Jheri Curl like he tried to do back in '95.

Timmy84 said:

That style he had the 95 VMAs?


That's one of the styles from the past 15 years that actually worked!

Then his ass went and straightened it


PUT THE HOT COMB DOWN!

and this style....


no....just.....no
[Edited 4/15/08 16:38pm]

Yep, he should've kept that.

The second picture, he looks like Liza Minnelli's bastard child.

And the third one... ew...

Timmy84 said:

I still can't watch You Are Not Alone. I refuse to watch a video of Michael Jackson laying down exposing his balls

HELL NO!

bboy87 said:

Or his big ass outie bellybutton. That thing looked as big as an orange. I mean, maybe it would've been better without the vitiligo but shit, lol. The thing looked like an orange with Mike's current complexion.

Timmy84 said:

I remember when that video came on, I was like "WTF?!"

Then was horrified to see my hero laying butt ass naked


with his balls showing! I'm still suprised after 13 years, they STILL haven't censored that shit
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bboy87 said:

How could they have missed it? That's just wrong, lol.

Timmy84 said:

I remember when I was 10 and saying

"Now I know that ain't Michael Jackson's nutsack?!"

balls?

sosgemini said:

yes, sos


balls

i see no balls...

but i have noticed how unnecessarily long the song is and how god awful the video itself is.

sosgemini said:

Yeah I would've definitely done a different video. And with another girl, lol. He could just have sung it in a black or white setting. But Mike likes to go over the top, lol.

bboy87 said:

I am not that fond of the last picture either. That style does not work for me, but the first one is HOT!

Timmy84 said:

Exactly. That ain't something to be proud of for an artist of his stature. By comparison "The Number Ones" stayed in the Top 40 for about 6 months. There is obviously a big gap between how people view the old MJ and the current one.
[Edited 4/16/08 6:28am]

midnightmover said:

It also has to do with promotion

Alot of people in the States didn't even know it was out the week it was released. Keep in mind that the singles weren't promoted much

A huge number of people found out it's release when the 30th Anniversary Special aired a couple of weeks later. It was the best selling R&B album in the California area of 2002

Heaven Can Wait wasn't a single but it charted at #72 on the R&B charts, it's one of the highlights from the album.

Heaven Can Wait
Whatever Happens
Don't Walk Away

all could have been singles

I've been looking at the casebook edition of Thriller 25. I think outtakes from the videos, especially Thriller would've been a welcome addition