vainandy said:

And that's crazy. It's like people are forced to confine to it even though we know it's like a disease/plague but you just don't wanna get rid of it.

murph said:

I hear you there, Murph.

They are seeing it as a way of making the most money they can by mixing genres thinking they can get people with several tastes together. I remember one time I went to a Barkays concert with J. Blackfoot (a blues singer) as the opening act. There were only about 80 to 100 people at the concert. I happen to like both artists but I did notice that older blues fans were leaving when J. Blackfoot finished performing and I saw a lot of people my age just arriving before The Barkays came on stage. I heard complaints coming from both blues and funk fans that they could have had a longer night of entertainment if they didn't have two completely different type groups performing. Also, just think about both blues and funk fans that probably stayed home and didn't buy a ticket because they didn't like the other group that was performing.

But when it comes to shit hop, that's another story altogether. A lot of lovers of real music are just downright sick of it being every damn where and feel like they can't even get an escape from it at a funk concert that rarely comes to town as opposed to a damn shit hop concert that is in a local club every damn weekend, is all over the radio 24/7, and is all over the television if people want to see it.

One thing we all seem to agree on here is that Noel Gallagher's a twat. I'd rather watch Jay Zzzzzz than Oasis. ANY day.

vainandy said:

LOL...I don't know Vain...I respect your stance and the fact that you stand your ground...But you are beginning to sound like somebody's 80 year old grandfather...Not everything is "shit hop..."

(And on the real, I'm still waiting on you to explain your comments about Prince picking up fleas from performing with that talentless hack Beyonce at the Grammy's when dude has recorded music with such true musical talents and visionaries as Vanity and Apollonia...lol)

We get it...You hate hip hop and any new "urban" music that has been dropping over the last 15 years or so...Hell, I don't dig a lot of it...But painting everything with one brush is a little weak...(No disrespect Vain...)
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vainandy said:

I wish it can go away like commercialized mainstream shitty disco (not the real disco, of course).

Wonder how tickets are going for this festival?

Jay-Z to headline Roskilde festival

Jay-Z will headline the forthcomine Roskilde festival in Denmark, alongside Neil Young and Radiohead.

Other artists playing at the three-day festival include Slayer, The Chemical Brothers, Judas Priest, The Cult, Kings of Leon, Adele and Duffy.

Kate Nash, The Gossip, MIA, Santogold, Cat Power, Goldfrapp, Grinderman, My Bloody Valentine, Battles, Holy Fuck and Gnarls Barkley will also perform.

In addition Swedish rockers The Hellacopters will be playing their last ever gig at the event.

Tickets are on sale now for the festival, which takes place in Denmark from July 3 to 6.



http://www.nme.com/news/festivals/35958

murph said:

Timmy84 said:

Funny, I've been comparing Hip-Pop to disco for years. Maybe there'll come a time when it will go away, but it's nearing its third decade of commercial viability and may not slow down for a while.

namepeace said:

Good point.

You've got it backwards. An 80 year grandfather would like his shit to be all slow and nothing fast. Who does that sound like? That sounds like the younger generation, not me. I like my shit to be jams. An 80 year old grandfather couldn't keep up.

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Vanity and Apollonia aren't shit hop trash either. Most of the time, you get fleas from something low class and there ain't nothing more low class than shit hop. Vanity and Apollonia were whores. Beyonce is a ho. There's a difference.

vainandy said:

But I'm trying to figure out what u mean by low class...lol...And for the record homie, in the urban community and beyond, Beyonce may be looked at as a overexposed, over-singing pop/R&B star with no personality, but the last thing people look at her as is a hoe...

Where in the hell do you get this shit from? You sound like Bill O'Reilly....LOL..Come on...please tell me you are Bill O'Reilly. Cuz that shit would make so much sense...LOL
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Shapeshifter said:

True....very few of those ticket sales were due to Oasis performing...the number of tickets have nothing to do with the headliner. You would have to blame the entire lineup...if it were that strong, you could walk when Mr.Carter stepped out...which is exactly what would happen if Gallagher's sorry band headlined.

I really don't believe this has anything to do with race. Jay-z is the wrong artist for this type of audience, its like The Kooks opening for Britney, it just dosn't work. I dislike Noel and his band but I agree with him. Ay Ya Ya

vainandy said:

OH MY DAMN!!!!

Oh my. *takes notes*

murph said:

Jay Z has worked with Chris Martin.

Chris was at his goddamn wedding to Beyonce.

Anyway, it's pretty obvious Mr Gallagher has a rather dark side that he should learn to keep to himself.

When's the last time he had a hit anyway? Jay Z's albums and singles still do well today.

Fuck Oasis.
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Shit hop. It definately ain't high class or even middle class, that's for damn sure. She may be from a middle class background, but when you stoop to shit hop, you become gutter trash.



I've heard her called ho, skank, tramp, slut, etc. from people of all different backgrounds. I've even heard people call her a whore but I have to correct them on that because whores ain't cheap, ho's are.



Yeah right. Like Bill O'Reilly could even keep up with me. I'm far from conservative. I'm the wildest, most foul mouthed, persmiscous whore there is, and certainly ain't straight. If it were up to me, people would be free to walk around with their dicks hanging out if they choose.

And as for conservative, shit hop would be more Bill's taste because it's as slow and dull as the classical music he probably listens to. Shit hop is also just as homophobic as he is, if not more. Ain't shit straight about me but my hair.

4 someone who is RETIRED, Jay-Z sure seems busy.

Graycap23 said:

He wasn't really retired anyway.

vainandy said:

Thanks Bill...lol (I got jokes Vain...)

purplesweat said:

I wonder if Gwyneth gives Beyonce advice about what to name their...baby. Would she call it Granny Smith Knowles-Carter? I mean, Chris and Gwyneth did name their baby Apple and shit.

Graycap23 said:

He came out of retirement in 2007, I think.

I think it was because of :

1. Boredom

2. More ideas

3. Problems with Def Jam

He's since said he's really embarrassed he decided to retire because he looks a bit silly coming back.

vainandy said:

I don't even know where to begin with the wackiness in your posts, but I'll just say that if liking hip hop means you're gutter trash, then me and Cornell West will be chillin' in tha gutter.

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Dance said:

Well he ISN'T really human, you know? He's like what one of my boys said, a turtle, a Mutant Ninja one at that!
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Dance said:

Even you can't be this stupid & hateful.

Timmy84 said:

No, the turtle would be that small greasy thing that somehow keeps getting acting work...Ja

Dance said:

Yeah, that eight year publicity stunt (B and Jay have been connected since she appeared in the 2001 video for Izzo) that resulted in marriage. Oh, but I suppose THAT was a stunt too? Dontcha think that remaining very closed off about your relationship is the polar opposite purpose of a PUBLICITY STUNT?

Do you EVER think about what you write or are you so overcome by jealously of those WAY more successful than you that you just blindly type the first hateful lies that come to your tiny brain?

Now you're accusing him of being gay? Provide ONE source to support your completely bogus theory, [Name calling snip. Just don't feed the - luv4u]

But seriously though I wonder how long Jay and Beyonce have been knowing each other before 2003.