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PrintableI can't say this enough promotion, promotion, promotion and promotion, that's the problem with Janet period in europe.
go to the UK, do some tv shows, and perfom,Do radio interviews she hasn't done that since 2004. I would do some club tours also throughout europe instead of a big tour, and sort of reintroduce yourself to them. that would be a start it worked for Kelly Rolland. but that's Janet's and her people's job. but the part that get's me is the lable needs to their part also, there were tv adds, posters or ect nothing advertiseing , and no offical single hasn't even been released in the Uk yet. I don't know what the hell island was thinking with that one. pyschical singles still sale very well there. hell that's how call on me got in the top 20, and if call on me could that Feedback would of done better. . they need to get off of moom's high horse and step up and do their part with the marketing. geesh this makes almost want to drop out of college and become a manager, if I can see this why can't they 
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I find it very strange that both Janet and Mariah are on the same label, yet Mariah is the only one that gets posters plastered across London. Ive seen no Janet posters or media coverage at all. I remember when 20YO came out there was poster in the Underground.  | |
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paper said: I find it very strange that both Janet and Mariah are on the same label, yet Mariah is the only one that gets posters plastered across London. Ive seen no Janet posters or media coverage at all. I remember when 20YO came out there was poster in the Underground.
how does Mariah sell over there? You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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vainandy said: Dance music? I haven't heard anything dance sounding coming from her lately. I heard something that maybe could halfway pass but then she ruins it with that shit hop style of "singing a rap" with 50 words in one lyric.
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ehuffnsd said: paper said: I find it very strange that both Janet and Mariah are on the same label, yet Mariah is the only one that gets posters plastered across London. Ive seen no Janet posters or media coverage at all. I remember when 20YO came out there was poster in the Underground.
how does Mariah sell over there? She does very well. Mimi went to number 7 and Touch My Body went to 5. People like her here, she's a top 10 artist. | |
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Janet is never going to make a big comeback.She simply hasn't got the talent and her ear for a good producer has gone. She's still pushing some sales in the US, but the rest on the world gave up more than 10 years ago.
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shortstuff45220 said: I can't say this enough promotion, promotiom, promotion and pormotion, that's the problem with Janet period in europe.
go to the UK, do some tv shows, and perfom,Do radio interviews she hasn't done that since 2004. I would do some club tours also throughout europe instead of a big tour, and sort of reintroduce yourself to them. that would be a start it worked for Kelly Rolland. but that's Janet's and her people's job. but the part that get's me is the lable needs to their part also, there were tv adds, posters or ect nothing advertiseing , and no offical single hasn't even been released in the Uk yet. I don't know what the hell island was thinking with that one. pyschical singles still sale very well there. hell that's how call on me got in the top 20, and if call on me could that Feedback would of done better. . they need to get off of moom's high horse and step up and do their part with the marketing. geesh this makes almost want to drop out of college and become a manager, if I can see this why can't they
Janet could certainly use a new manager  Whoever is guiding her career right now is doing a terrible job.
I think she should forget about 'Discipline' and just do a greatest hits tour.Get out there and tour for three months or so,playing the hits. | |
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Adisa said: SoulAlive said: I remember an interview where Janet expressed her desire to make a Brazilian jazz album.That would be a cool idea for her.It would give her a chance to branch out,try something new and finally escape her R&B comfort zone.
She would just use to opportunity to add some Latin zing to her t&a photo shoots. 
How about a ballsy,loud,defiant rock album? The first single is a cover of the Pat Benatar classic "Hit Me With Your Best Shot".Janet needs to get TOUGH for a change! Imagine a tough,defiant Janet spitting out lines like "Before I put another notch in my lipstick case....you'd better make sure you put me in my place!".The original song is directed at a no-good boyfriend,but Janet's remake could have some additional lyrics directed at the media and their over-reaction to Nipplegate.It'll be her way of saying "Come on,bring it on bastards!"
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Her record company is so fucking dumb..she need 2 keep that midget
away from anything involving her recording career... 'Rock With U' should have been all over Euro radio by now... 
regardless if she sells or not She does get big airplay on initial realease ...Your coochie gonna swell up and fall apart... | |
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I need to clear up a misconception here. Janet didn't just start flopping over here with Damita Jo. People seem to forget this, but All For You flopped almost everywhere outside of America and Japan. Here in the UK, it debuted at number two, but dropped out of the Top 20 in the second week, and left the Top 50 by the third week. That's a major turkey for a "superstar".
Her sales may be down in the US, but her albums still make the Top 10 over there. Over here they don't even make the Top 60. I think after 3 flops in a row, they basically gave up on Europe with this album. Even Prince has been outselling her over here for years now.[Edited 4/16/08 6:42am] “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Dewrede said: yes , because her music sucks
thats a matter of opinion... but i happen to like pop/dance music.. and enjoy janet's stuff.. with the except of her sexual lyrics.. i bet you probably like hip-hop just like the rest of the world.. so i wouldn't expect you to like janet... followers of hip-hop.... most likely will NOT like janet's stuff.. she is NOT a hip-hop artist.... so get over it.. and YOU probably haven't even heard janet's last three albums... so your opinion is irrelevant... |
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SoulAlive said: Adisa said: She would just use to opportunity to add some Latin zing to her t&a photo shoots.
How about a ballsy,loud,defiant rock album? The first single is a cover of the Pat Benatar classic "Hit Me With Your Best Shot".Janet needs to get TOUGH for a change! Imagine a tough,defiant Janet spitting out lines like "Before I put another notch in my lipstick case....you'd better make sure you put me in my place!".The original song is directed at a no-good boyfriend,but Janet's remake could have some additional lyrics directed at the media and their over-reaction to Nipplegate.It'll be her way of saying "Come on,bring it on bastards!"
[Edited 4/16/08 3:18am] I've been wanting Janet to do a rock album for years but she's too confined to shit hop right now, lol. Of course the songs on "Discipline" aren't shit hop thankfully. But I agree, she needs a musical makeover. Not necessarily for sales but artistic value. | |
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SoulAlive said: Adisa said: She would just use to opportunity to add some Latin zing to her t&a photo shoots.
How about a ballsy,loud,defiant rock album? The first single is a cover of the Pat Benatar classic "Hit Me With Your Best Shot".Janet needs to get TOUGH for a change! Imagine a tough,defiant Janet spitting out lines like "Before I put another notch in my lipstick case....you'd better make sure you put me in my place!".The original song is directed at a no-good boyfriend,but Janet's remake could have some additional lyrics directed at the media and their over-reaction to Nipplegate.It'll be her way of saying "Come on,bring it on bastards!"
[Edited 4/16/08 3:18am] That concept for Hit Me With Your Best Shot would have worked for the 20 Y.O. CD but that time has come and gone. I am with you on her doing a Rock album. Something in the vein of "Black Cat". Rock and Funk, that would be hot! [Edited 4/16/08 10:24am] I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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midnightmover said: I need to clear up a misconception here. Janet didn't just start flopping over here with Damita Jo. People seem to forget this, but All For You flopped almost everywhere outside of America and Japan. Here in the UK, it debuted at number two, but dropped out of the Top 20 in the second week, and left the Top 50 by the third week. That's a major turkey for a "superstar".
Her sales may be down in the US, but her albums still make the Top 10 over there. Over here they don't even make the Top 60. I think after 3 flops in a row, they basically gave up on Europe with this album. Even Prince has been outselling her over here for years now.
[Edited 4/16/08 6:42am] But AFY still debuted at No 2. Where did DJ, 20 YO and Discipline debut? Nowhere near the Top 20. There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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Shapeshifter said: midnightmover said: I need to clear up a misconception here. Janet didn't just start flopping over here with Damita Jo. People seem to forget this, but All For You flopped almost everywhere outside of America and Japan. Here in the UK, it debuted at number two, but dropped out of the Top 20 in the second week, and left the Top 50 by the third week. That's a major turkey for a "superstar".
Her sales may be down in the US, but her albums still make the Top 10 over there. Over here they don't even make the Top 60. I think after 3 flops in a row, they basically gave up on Europe with this album. Even Prince has been outselling her over here for years now.
[Edited 4/16/08 6:42am] But AFY still debuted at No 2. Where did DJ, 20 YO and Discipline debut? Nowhere near the Top 20. Yeah, but the moment it plummeted that fast it was obvious Janet was over in the UK. Her last successful album here was Velvet Rope. I haven't met anyone since the '90s who has any interest in her. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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midnightmover said: Shapeshifter said: But AFY still debuted at No 2. Where did DJ, 20 YO and Discipline debut? Nowhere near the Top 20. Yeah, but the moment it plummeted that fast it was obvious Janet was over in the UK. Her last successful album here was Velvet Rope. I haven't met anyone since the '90s who has any interest in her. It wasn't over for her with AFY. She was a typical cult artist at that point in the UK - all the fans bought the album as soon as it came out, so it raced up the charts. Then, because the follow-up singles weren't big hits, interest waned. Plus she cancelled her European tour in the wake of 9/11. It was over for her when her next albums started stiffing. But there's a reason for that - they were crap and people knew it. There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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Shapeshifter said: midnightmover said: Yeah, but the moment it plummeted that fast it was obvious Janet was over in the UK. Her last successful album here was Velvet Rope. I haven't met anyone since the '90s who has any interest in her. It wasn't over for her with AFY. She was a typical cult artist at that point in the UK - all the fans bought the album as soon as it came out, so it raced up the charts. Then, because the follow-up singles weren't big hits, interest waned. Plus she cancelled her European tour in the wake of 9/11. It was over for her when her next albums started stiffing. But there's a reason for that - they were crap and people knew it. Bullshit. When an album by a major artist drops out of the Top 50 within three weeks that is a stiff, whichever way you cut it. The fact that you just said she was a "cult artist" by that point proves that. That's like me saying MJ was a "cult artist" in 2001 when Invincible flopped over here. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Martinelli said: Her record company is so fucking dumb..she need 2 keep that midget
away from anything involving her recording career... 'Rock With U' should have been all over Euro radio by now...
regardless if she sells or not She does get big airplay on initial realease That 'midget' produced 'Rock With U' | |
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midnightmover said: Shapeshifter said: It wasn't over for her with AFY. She was a typical cult artist at that point in the UK - all the fans bought the album as soon as it came out, so it raced up the charts. Then, because the follow-up singles weren't big hits, interest waned. Plus she cancelled her European tour in the wake of 9/11. It was over for her when her next albums started stiffing. But there's a reason for that - they were crap and people knew it. Bullshit. When an album by a major artist drops out of the Top 50 within three weeks that is a stiff, whichever way you cut it. The fact that you just said she was a "cult artist" by that point proves that. That's like me saying MJ was a "cult artist" in 2001 when Invincible flopped over here. Hello? AFY sold more than DJ, 20 YO and Discipline combined. Back when AFY came out, albums still had to sell quite significantly to get into the Top 10, let alone to No 2. This means that more people bought AFY than they did the next three. I don't call that a stiff. Janet had more fans around the time of AFY. Then they stopped buying her stuff. Prince's Musicology and 3121 spent all of four weeks in the UK Top 40 collectively before disappearing. That was called a comeback, not a flop. It's all relative, right?  There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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Shapeshifter said: midnightmover said: Bullshit. When an album by a major artist drops out of the Top 50 within three weeks that is a stiff, whichever way you cut it. The fact that you just said she was a "cult artist" by that point proves that. That's like me saying MJ was a "cult artist" in 2001 when Invincible flopped over here. Hello? AFY sold more than DJ, 20 YO and Discipline combined. Back when AFY came out, albums still had to sell quite significantly to get into the Top 10, let alone to No 2. This means that more people bought AFY than they did the next three. I don't call that a stiff. Janet had more fans around the time of AFY. Then they stopped buying her stuff. Prince's Musicology and 3121 spent all of four weeks in the UK Top 40 collectively before disappearing. That was called a comeback, not a flop. It's all relative, right? Yes, it's all relative, and for a major artist to drop out of the Top 50 within three weeks, that is, relatively speaking, a flop. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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She's only done alright in the UK
Control-#8 Control The Remixes-#20 Rhythm Nation-#4 .janet-#1 .janet Remixed-#15 Design of A Decade-#2 The Velvet Rope-#6 All For You-#2 then it went downhill
Damita Jo-#32 20 Y.O.-#63 Discipline-#63 and 16 Top 10 singles  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: She's only done alright in the UK
Control-#8 Control The Remixes-#20 Rhythm Nation-#4 .janet-#1 .janet Remixed-#15 Design of A Decade-#2 The Velvet Rope-#6 All For You-#2 then it went downhill
Damita Jo-#32 20 Y.O.-#63 Discipline-#63 and 16 Top 10 singles i guess so. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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graecophilos said: fluid, I would never include her on the Top 4 Pop Artitsts of the 80s!
That for me are Jackson, Madonna, George Michael and Prince. Why is George Michael so often overlooked? He had like 10 #1 in the 80s, and was as commercial as Prince I guess? Because George doesn't get any respect RESPECT GEORGE MICHAEL, DAMMIT! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: She's only done alright in the UK
Control-#8 Control The Remixes-#20 Rhythm Nation-#4 .janet-#1 .janet Remixed-#15 Design of A Decade-#2 The Velvet Rope-#6 All For You-#2 then it went downhill
Damita Jo-#32 20 Y.O.-#63 Discipline-#63 and 16 Top 10 singles Her biggest UK single was a tie between her duet with Luther Vandross ("The Best Things In Life Are Free" was in the top ten twice and peaked at #2 in its initial 1992 run) and "That's the Way Love Goes" (which also peaked at #2). | |
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bboy87 said: graecophilos said: fluid, I would never include her on the Top 4 Pop Artitsts of the 80s!
That for me are Jackson, Madonna, George Michael and Prince. Why is George Michael so often overlooked? He had like 10 #1 in the 80s, and was as commercial as Prince I guess? Because George doesn't get any respect RESPECT GEORGE MICHAEL, DAMMIT! Ya damn skippy! | |
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Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: Because George doesn't get any respect RESPECT GEORGE MICHAEL, DAMMIT! Ya damn skippy! They don't want me to get the chart stats up in this muthafucka!
I got every chart position from Wham! to now bboy87 don't play "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: She's only done alright in the UK
Control-#8 Control The Remixes-#20 Rhythm Nation-#4 .janet-#1 .janet Remixed-#15 Design of A Decade-#2 The Velvet Rope-#6 All For You-#2 then it went downhill
Damita Jo-#32 20 Y.O.-#63 Discipline-#63 and 16 Top 10 singles And the thing is, out of those 16 Top 10 singles I don't know if anyone here can remember a single one of them. You still hear Prince and MJ's stuff from that time. You even still hear my girl Cyndi's songs like "Time After Time", but you NEVER hear any of Janet's songs. Name any of her biggest hits to the average UK citizen and you will most likely be met with a blank stare. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: Ya damn skippy! They don't want me to get the chart stats up in this muthafucka!
I got every chart position from Wham! to now bboy87 don't play They ain't ready for it! | |
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midnightmover said: bboy87 said: She's only done alright in the UK
Control-#8 Control The Remixes-#20 Rhythm Nation-#4 .janet-#1 .janet Remixed-#15 Design of A Decade-#2 The Velvet Rope-#6 All For You-#2 then it went downhill
Damita Jo-#32 20 Y.O.-#63 Discipline-#63 and 16 Top 10 singles And the thing is, out of those 16 Top 10 singles I don't know if anyone here can remember a single one of them. You still hear Prince and MJ's stuff from that time. You even still hear my girl Cyndi's songs like "Time After Time", but you NEVER hear any of Janet's songs. Name any of her biggest hits to the average UK citizen and you will most likely be met with a blank stare. Janet turned you down for a date, right? It's alright, she did the same to me.
Now, I've just asked my wife (not a Janet fan) if she can name five of her songs. And she said: What Have You Done For Me Lately, When I Think Of You, Nasty, Let's Wait Awhile and That's the Way Love Goes .... I'll ask the people in my local shop tomorrow and get back to you, ok? There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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Shapeshifter said: midnightmover said: And the thing is, out of those 16 Top 10 singles I don't know if anyone here can remember a single one of them. You still hear Prince and MJ's stuff from that time. You even still hear my girl Cyndi's songs like "Time After Time", but you NEVER hear any of Janet's songs. Name any of her biggest hits to the average UK citizen and you will most likely be met with a blank stare. Janet turned you down for a date, right? It's alright, she did the same to me.
Now, I've just asked my wife (not a Janet fan) if she can name five of her songs. And she said: What Have You Done For Me Lately, When I Think Of You, Nasty, Let's Wait Awhile and That's the Way Love Goes .... I'll ask the people in my local shop tomorrow and get back to you, ok? LOL, you mean your wife who's married to a Janet Jackson fan? “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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