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Thread started 04/07/08 9:12am

midnightmover

Cyndi Lauper's new album Bring Ya To The Brink released on May 27

Cyndi Lauper is releasing her new album titled Bring Ya To The Brink on May 27. You can now pre-order it on Amazon. The album has various producers including Basement Jaxx, Kleerup, Digital Dog, Scumfrog, Richard Morel and more. Tracks include 'Set Your Heart', 'High & Mighty', 'Grab A Hold' and 'Savoir Faire'
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Reply #1 posted 04/07/08 9:14am

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Thank you for the news. biggrin
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Reply #2 posted 04/07/08 9:49am

Glindathegood

You can hear Set your Heart here.
http://www.youtube.com/wa...UkHJetzH98

I'm not too crazy about it. People were criticizing her going dance, and I said it could be cool. But this is not working for me. It does seem sort of cynical and not her.
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Reply #3 posted 04/07/08 9:50am

VoicesCarry

Kleerup has done brilliant work with Robyn, and I hope to see lightning strike twice.
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Reply #4 posted 04/07/08 9:57am

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Wow, that is a terrible album title.
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Reply #5 posted 04/08/08 12:59am

SoulAlive

Glindathegood said:

You can hear Set your Heart here.
http://www.youtube.com/wa...UkHJetzH98

I'm not too crazy about it. People were criticizing her going dance, and I said it could be cool. But this is not working for me. It does seem sort of cynical and not her.


that song samples an old Harold Melvin and The Blue Notes song called "Where Are All My Friends".

I don't know if Cyndi can pull this off.This project doesn't sound too promising.
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Reply #6 posted 04/08/08 1:52am

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Weird album title. But nice list of producers! I think it'll work, that song previewed above notwithstanding. I mean, it's okay, but a little bit lackluster.
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Reply #7 posted 04/08/08 7:20am

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The song is not as bad as I thought it would be but something tells me there is going to be some really embarrassing shit on this album. She just doesn't fit this kind of dance music. If she wrote this song, seems like she is trying to hard to fit into a dance mold when the song would sound better with a different arrangement. Almost sounds like a fan remix. It complements the song well enough and is more about adding to the original rather than just using it every slightly. Might even be a remix of a song that was originally was a dance track (but without so many bells and whistles). Who knows. So people don't like this track? I don't know how much effort they put into choosing the single and marketing it right, etc, but something tells me most of the songs are going to be like this. I think her singing is good and there is a song in there...It's just covered up by too much (and the spoken word ablibs do nothing for the song).

BTW, that is a pretty awful title.
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Reply #8 posted 04/09/08 10:54am

midnightmover

I'll be buying the album in the first week, but I'm preparing to clench my teeth through at least half of it. I made my feelings clear about this dance direction and the reasons behind it on another thread. I won't repeat it, but let's just say the mistakes are piling up. Album title? Mistake. Savoir Faire was much better. First single? Mistake. "Grab A Hold" is much better.

Also, there are two unreleased songs she was performing live in '04-'06 which were absolutely great ("Still With Me" and "The Other Side"). I've heard no mention of them being recorded for this album. If they're included then I know there's at least three great songs on there (including "Grab A Hold"), which would be great. If they're excluded because they don't fit the dance theme then I'll be one unhappy camper.

It's not nice when commerce strangles art, but sometimes magic can come through regardless. I'll be happy if I like just half the album.

btw, "Set Your Heart" is not bad. The verses are actually great, but it would be better with a more organic sound.
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Reply #9 posted 04/10/08 5:15am

SoulAlive

Well,she's got nothing to lose.She may as well try a dance album.Maybe she'll finally reach an audience that won't discard her?
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Reply #10 posted 04/10/08 2:05pm

midnightmover

SoulAlive said:

Well,she's got nothing to lose

Any time you compromise your work you have something to lose because you dilute the quality of your overall body of work.

Maybe she'll finally reach an audience that won't discard her?

She only ever lost one audience one time. After that she was never given a chance.
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Reply #11 posted 04/11/08 6:04am

Glindathegood

I'm not against commercial pop/dance muscic and I don't buy the thing that anything commercial or accessible is bad.
But this song just isn't that good. She doesn't seem at home or comfortable with it.
Whereas Madonna and Kylie seem like they are totally at home with their commercial dance styles.
It's not clear to me that the dance community will immediately embrace her. They may ask why is she doing dance now? Whereas Madonna and Kylie are sort of proven in the dance community because they have been doing it throughout their careers.
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Reply #12 posted 04/11/08 6:09am

SoulAlive

Glindathegood said:

I'm not against commercial pop/dance muscic and I don't buy the thing that anything commercial or accessible is bad.
But this song just isn't that good. She doesn't seem at home or comfortable with it.
Whereas Madonna and Kylie seem like they are totally at home with their commercial dance styles.
It's not clear to me that the dance community will immediately embrace her. They may ask why is she doing dance now? Whereas Madonna and Kylie are sort of proven in the dance community because they have been doing it throughout their careers.


I hate to say this,but I think Cyndi's album is dead on arrival.
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Reply #13 posted 04/11/08 10:06am

midnightmover

SoulAlive said:

Glindathegood said:

I'm not against commercial pop/dance muscic and I don't buy the thing that anything commercial or accessible is bad.
But this song just isn't that good. She doesn't seem at home or comfortable with it.
Whereas Madonna and Kylie seem like they are totally at home with their commercial dance styles.
It's not clear to me that the dance community will immediately embrace her. They may ask why is she doing dance now? Whereas Madonna and Kylie are sort of proven in the dance community because they have been doing it throughout their careers.


I hate to say this,but I think Cyndi's album is dead on arrival.

You've hardly heard anything and you're already declaring it "dead on arrival"? That's ridiculous. Everyone who's heard "Grab A Hold" seems to love it (including me), so that's at least one great song. I'm sure there'll be a few more. wink
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Reply #14 posted 04/12/08 9:13am

SoulAlive

midnightmover said:

SoulAlive said:



I hate to say this,but I think Cyndi's album is dead on arrival.

You've hardly heard anything and you're already declaring it "dead on arrival"? That's ridiculous. Everyone who's heard "Grab A Hold" seems to love it (including me), so that's at least one great song. I'm sure there'll be a few more. wink


Like Glindathegood said,this kinda music just isn't Cyndi's style.You said so yourself in a previous thread.I'm predicting that the album won't do much,at least here in America.

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Reply #15 posted 04/12/08 10:27am

MikeMatronik

I prefer a more organic Cyndi...I wished to would go back to the sound of the A night to remember era.
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Reply #16 posted 04/12/08 4:46pm

Glindathegood

I was shocked to read some interviews with people who worked with Cyndi and they all said she was a total nightmare to work with. I never saw her as a diva like that.

You can read two of them here.
http://cyndi.8m.com/interviews.html

Also Junior Vasquez said, "Cyndi Lauper and I are great friends and I think she's immensely talented but she's a control freak with bizarre ideas. She's a royal pain in the arse to work with."

Perhaps Vasquez should have listened to Girls Just Want To Have Fun: "Some boys take a beautiful girl / And hide her away from the rest of the world / I wanna be the one to walk in the sun."

Lauper says Vasquez is "sweet" and a friend but producers such as him "don't work with artists. They work with people who come in, they tell 'em what to think and [the singer leaves]. They're the king.

"But I was doing a co-production with him and that's completely different. And honey, you'd better be in control of your own project because if you're not, who the f--- is?

"What he hated was my playing the dulcimer. And I said something to him about his personal life that he perhaps thinks I shouldn't have said. I tried to call him and he didn't call me back. So I started playing the dulcimer on his answering machine. I thought it was funny and obviously he didn't.

"When I look back, I see all these guys who weren't used to a woman saying, 'I have this idea.' Well, I'm sorry, turn the album on the cover and see whose picture is on it and what's the big name, right? Would he say that about David Bowie?"
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Glindathegood said:

I was shocked to read some interviews with people who worked with Cyndi and they all said she was a total nightmare to work with. I never saw her as a diva like that.

You can read two of them here.
http://cyndi.8m.com/interviews.html

Also Junior Vasquez said, "Cyndi Lauper and I are great friends and I think she's immensely talented but she's a control freak with bizarre ideas. She's a royal pain in the arse to work with."

Perhaps Vasquez should have listened to Girls Just Want To Have Fun: "Some boys take a beautiful girl / And hide her away from the rest of the world / I wanna be the one to walk in the sun."

Lauper says Vasquez is "sweet" and a friend but producers such as him "don't work with artists. They work with people who come in, they tell 'em what to think and [the singer leaves]. They're the king.

"But I was doing a co-production with him and that's completely different. And honey, you'd better be in control of your own project because if you're not, who the f--- is?

"What he hated was my playing the dulcimer. And I said something to him about his personal life that he perhaps thinks I shouldn't have said. I tried to call him and he didn't call me back. So I started playing the dulcimer on his answering machine. I thought it was funny and obviously he didn't.

"When I look back, I see all these guys who weren't used to a woman saying, 'I have this idea.' Well, I'm sorry, turn the album on the cover and see whose picture is on it and what's the big name, right? Would he say that about David Bowie?"



Jr. is such a douche anyway shrug

btw, i bet her playing the dulcimer on his answering machine ends up in this next track lol
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Reply #18 posted 04/14/08 4:18am

midnightmover

SoulAlive said:

midnightmover said:


You've hardly heard anything and you're already declaring it "dead on arrival"? That's ridiculous. Everyone who's heard "Grab A Hold" seems to love it (including me), so that's at least one great song. I'm sure there'll be a few more. wink


Like Glindathegood said,this kinda music just isn't Cyndi's style.You said so yourself in a previous thread.I'm predicting that the album won't do much,at least here in America.

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The whole album is not dance. "Grab A Hold" is pop/rock and it's great. There are four or five different producers on this album so you can expect a variety of different sounds. As for it's commercial prospects, let's be realistic here. A Cyndi Lauper album in 2008 is never gonna be a big seller. I don't think anyone's expecting that or even cares about it. What matters is how good it is. I'm expecting some great stuff and some not so great stuff. I'm certainly not going to write off the whole project just on the basis of a first single.
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Reply #19 posted 04/14/08 4:22am

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MikeMatronik said:

I prefer a more organic Cyndi...I wished to would go back to the sound of the A night to remember era.

That was the worst album of her entire career. After that it could only get better, and it did.
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Reply #20 posted 04/14/08 5:56am

SoulAlive

midnightmover said:

SoulAlive said:



Like Glindathegood said,this kinda music just isn't Cyndi's style.You said so yourself in a previous thread.I'm predicting that the album won't do much,at least here in America.



The whole album is not dance. "Grab A Hold" is pop/rock and it's great. There are four or five different producers on this album so you can expect a variety of different sounds. As for it's commercial prospects, let's be realistic here. A Cyndi Lauper album in 2008 is never gonna be a big seller. I don't think anyone's expecting that or even cares about it. What matters is how good it is. I'm expecting some great stuff and some not so great stuff. I'm certainly not going to write off the whole project just on the basis of a first single.


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Reply #21 posted 04/14/08 6:04am

SoulAlive

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I was shocked to read some interviews with people who worked with Cyndi and they all said she was a total nightmare to work with. I never saw her as a diva like that.

You can read two of them here.
http://cyndi.8m.com/interviews.html

Also Junior Vasquez said, "Cyndi Lauper and I are great friends and I think she's immensely talented but she's a control freak with bizarre ideas. She's a royal pain in the arse to work with."

Perhaps Vasquez should have listened to Girls Just Want To Have Fun: "Some boys take a beautiful girl / And hide her away from the rest of the world / I wanna be the one to walk in the sun."

Lauper says Vasquez is "sweet" and a friend but producers such as him "don't work with artists. They work with people who come in, they tell 'em what to think and [the singer leaves]. They're the king.

"But I was doing a co-production with him and that's completely different. And honey, you'd better be in control of your own project because if you're not, who the f--- is?

"What he hated was my playing the dulcimer. And I said something to him about his personal life that he perhaps thinks I shouldn't have said. I tried to call him and he didn't call me back. So I started playing the dulcimer on his answering machine. I thought it was funny and obviously he didn't.

"When I look back, I see all these guys who weren't used to a woman saying, 'I have this idea.' Well, I'm sorry, turn the album on the cover and see whose picture is on it and what's the big name, right? Would he say that about David Bowie?"




hmmm lol
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