lazycrockett said:

ehuffnsd said:

Setting aside my contention that "selling out" is something we would all do given the right offer (unless it entailed doing something we considered immoral), I agree with you that Madge has always been about shifting units (and she'd tell you so herself).

That said, do you really think that Bjork's motivations are any more noble than Madonna's? They're both women who sought fame and validation through the popular song; they just had different strategies for achieving that. And, coincidentally, didn't Bjork also work with Timbaland?

Ace said:

they are different sides of the same coin. it bothers me to see fans go on about how Madonna is selling out musically when she's a pop artist when comes to music. if somehow her role as visual aritist changed and she started having Pepsi or something pop up in random photoshoots or she started dancing next to a Landrover or something on tour than i'd say she was a sell out.

ehuffnsd said:

Exactly.

ehuffnsd said:

Let Madonna do what she wanna do. She's almost been in it for 30 years so it's too late to wish her gone or wonder WHY she's doing this.

Cinnie said:

Which leaked version did you hear? The one I heard sounded exactly like the video, just without that little dance break in the middle?

The song's grown on me a bit, I mostly think it's made for the dance floor, and will get the job done there. The lyrics are totally pointless and uninteresting, however.

Ace said:

The song has grown on me a little bit, maybe because I've heard it out and about in public places, and the video brings it up a few levels. I still can't say I like it much.


But "Like It Or Not" is my least favorite on the last one, so.... different strokes, I guess

SoulAlive said:

I agree.

I like this Timbaland track but, not as much as I like "Promiscuous".

I do feel that it was sort of a copy-cat of the Shakira/Wyclef tune with the horns and calling out her name in the middle of the song.

Ace said:

The phrase "selling out" is funny to me.What exactly is "selling out"? Most pop artists want to be successful,sell records and reach the widest audience possible.Is that "selling out"? Yes,there is a small percentage of independent-type artists who don't care about those things,but when we're talking about pop music,it's safe to say that most of these people sell out on a regular basis.Even Prince has sold out many times in his career.

Ace said:

Not here in America.US radio stations don't really support Euro-flavored dance music.It went Top 10,but just barely.The new single "4 Minutes" is already Number Three in America,after only two weeks.It's even getting played on American radio stations that didn't play anything from Confessions."4 Minutes" is now officially Madonna's most successful American single since "Music" in 2000.

SoulAlive said:

Cause of Justin.

lazycrockett said:

I think Timbaland has had more of an effect than Timberlake.

lazycrockett said:

Exactly. It's a triumph of cynicism. Timberlake and Timberland basically handed her a hit on a platter. She really had to do nothing. Didn't even have to write a good song.

Raze said:

And right there you have a microcosm of how hype works. Videos and hype can get you actually enjoying mediocre music. MJ demonstrated this many times. People wouldn't like his songs at first, then they'd see the videos and hear it being blasted everywhere, and before you know it, they're singing along. Video killed the radio star.

AzhnConnectzhn said:

Co-sign.

I really like "4 Minutes." OTOH, I don't think it's anywhere near as good as the songs on Confessions, which I absolutely loved (my second favorite after Ray of Light).

Moonbeam said:

me too! whenever i hear that obnoxious madonnaaaaa i just
want to scream! I kinda like the song though, or maybe i don´t

garganta said:

"keep it up,keep it up...don't be a pri...ma....donnnnnaaaaa"

love that part!

SoulAlive said:

ARGGGGGHHHHH!!!!

happy?!

I hope that part of the song is really emphasized on the remixes.

"4 Minutes" (Keep It Up,Keep It Up Remix)"





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[Edited 4/7/08 6:12am]

SoulAlive said:

"4 Minutes" (PriMadonna Mix)

AlexdeParis said:

tick tock,tick tock!

This song is on a shampoo commercial.

The 'song' (thankfully) only lasts 4 minutes.

Moonbeam said:

That "worst album" will most likely outsell Confessions On The Dance Floor, Music, & Ray Of Light.

Hard Candy can't be that bad of a album.

SoulAlive said:

Does anyone know if 4 Minutes is played on Clear Channel-owned urban radio stations yet?

The sounds of this track is synthesize black music to the core.

Martinelli said:

Album version is 4 minutes, 10 seconds.

Radio edit version is 3 minutes, 10 seconds (?)

what a fucking joke.. can timbaland diversify his sound? every fucking song he does sounds the same


duran duran now madonna.. yikes

Sdldawn said:

"4 Minutes" doesn't sound like anything on Red Carpet Massacre.