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Reply #90 posted 03/27/08 8:16am

Evvy

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krayzie said:




Even Michael Jackson has constantly put black women in his videos even when he turned straight white...


i'm confused- are you talking about his wives or him
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Reply #91 posted 03/27/08 8:19am

Evvy

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SCNDLS said:

There are lots of JW rules of behavior that don't involve illegal or sexual activity. rolleyes
[Edited 3/27/08 7:49am]


sorry- but some of your comments are what others typically say about JWs like they can't live and enjoy things. Like they are non-sexual beings or something.
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Reply #92 posted 03/27/08 8:40am

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Evvy said:

SCNDLS said:

There are lots of JW rules of behavior that don't involve illegal or sexual activity. rolleyes
[Edited 3/27/08 7:49am]


sorry- but some of your comments are what others typically say about JWs like they can't live and enjoy things. Like they are non-sexual beings or something.


Huh???? confuse Again, you must be misreading my post but whatever, I ain't trynta get into a theological discourse with you on this thread so moving on. . . arrow
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Reply #93 posted 03/27/08 9:29am

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Flowerz said:



yeah, i know Prince wasnt right in the past with his choice of 'hiding' who he dated when it came to darker skinned sisters (Nona, Cat, Robyn and someone mentioned he was calling Kenya too, secretly complimenting her)..... every light skinned person he seem to pick for himself.. doesnt work ..that story Nona told of what he did to her.. i didnt like that.. and see, could be Prince is 'reaping' (it back) for what he's done to females in the past (why his present relationships dont work).. including what he's done to darker skinned sisters..




Have you seen pictures of Cat and Robyn? All you have to do is go to the associated artists thread and look at Powerbaby's (Robyn's) posts. She posts pics in most of them. Robyn is so NOT dark-skinned. They did her makeup darker for Graffiti Bridge. She and Cat are both "yella".
Nona, Tamar and Susan are about as dark as its been for Prince (that the public knows of, at least) and even Susan looks like an island girl (Trini) with thick, naturally curly hair.
Years of racist brainwashing has messed up a lot of minds. I think it was a nice compliment on her part.
Its no secret that Prince has a "type". A lot of people do. Its nobody's business who he dates/sleeps with/marries/whatever. Some of y'all need to stop being so overprotective of a man you'll never have. (not talking about you, Flowerz)

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Reply #94 posted 03/27/08 9:39am

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BlaqueKnight said:

Flowerz said:



yeah, i know Prince wasnt right in the past with his choice of 'hiding' who he dated when it came to darker skinned sisters (Nona, Cat, Robyn and someone mentioned he was calling Kenya too, secretly complimenting her)..... every light skinned person he seem to pick for himself.. doesnt work ..that story Nona told of what he did to her.. i didnt like that.. and see, could be Prince is 'reaping' (it back) for what he's done to females in the past (why his present relationships dont work).. including what he's done to darker skinned sisters..




Have you seen pictures of Cat and Robyn? All you have to do is go to the associated artists thread and look at Powerbaby's (Robyn's) posts. She posts pics in most of them. Robyn is so NOT dark-skinned. They did her makeup darker for Graffiti Bridge. She and Cat are both "yella".
Nona, Tamar and Susan are about as dark as its been for Prince (that the public knows of, at least) and even Susan looks like an island girl (Trini) with thick, naturally curly hair.
Years of racist brainwashing has messed up a lot of minds. I think it was a nice compliment on her part.
Its no secret that Prince has a "type". A lot of people do. Its nobody's business who he dates/sleeps with/marries/whatever. Some of y'all need to stop being so overprotective of a man you'll never have. (not talking about you, Flowerz)

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I thought the ones U mentioned were pretty light...

Anyway, honestly, I couldn't care less who Prince dates/marries... and I have said this many times in many threads- HE is not my type. confused
I just don't like when people assume that dark=unattractive. That was my point.

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"Love Hurts.
Your lies, they cut me.
Now your words don't mean a thing.
I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..."

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Reply #95 posted 03/27/08 10:11am

Ottensen

Whooo lawd this has been an entertaining read!

Funnier still is how we've seen neither hide nor hair of the person who started this thread lol
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Reply #96 posted 03/27/08 10:13am

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chocolate1 said:



I thought the ones U mentioned were pretty light...

Anyway, honestly, I couldn't care less who Prince dates/marries... and I have said this many times in many threads- HE is not my type. confused
I just don't like when people assume that dark=unattractive. That was my point.

- Chocolate1 wink



I'm in complete agreement with you. It disgusts men to hear black men equate dark skin with ugly. I could care less what "others" think of my sistas but brothas who say this are misguided and "whitewashed" and in need of re-conditioning. Of course, I'm not accusing anyone specifically, here. I'm just addressing the point you made about dark=ugly. That being said, Estelle ain't all that hot to me. She's no Kelly Rowland. Still, its a compliment for a 20-something year old woman to think so highly of a 50 year old man. Prince is old enough to be her daddy.
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Reply #97 posted 03/27/08 10:14am

Dance

chocolate1 said:

Dance said:



But you can't really discuss it in that way when these "relationships" are really just jobs. From day one that's what they've always been. These people know how they benefit their career and/or make excellent covers and once they get all they can out of it, they leave with some being much sooner than others depending on the situation and the person. Being public as far as pics and reality shows is a way to hustle it.

And hell, even though Kevin isn't everywhere with his wife, he still pimps it and talks about it and both of their careers have benefitted from it, or at least it seems that way to me. shrug


This whole argument sounds like just that: an argument. Their relationship is just a job? lol
Maybe some celebs get together for convenience or publicity, but I seriously doubt that the couples in Hollywood that have lasted are just doing it for that reason. Stay together, have children and make it work out of the limelight? That doesn't make sense.
I can't tell if you're being really cynical, or U just want to find a reason to disagree with me. confused


Cynical? Just finding a reason to argue? neutral

Look, if you want to believe that John Travolta and his wife(who keep it pretty low)are in love and that all the couples you see all the time are in love, go right ahead.
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Reply #98 posted 03/27/08 10:18am

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Dance said:

chocolate1 said:



This whole argument sounds like just that: an argument. Their relationship is just a job? lol
Maybe some celebs get together for convenience or publicity, but I seriously doubt that the couples in Hollywood that have lasted are just doing it for that reason. Stay together, have children and make it work out of the limelight? That doesn't make sense.
I can't tell if you're being really cynical, or U just want to find a reason to disagree with me. confused


Cynical? Just finding a reason to argue? neutral

Look, if you want to believe that John Travolta and his wife(who keep it pretty low)are in love and that all the couples you see all the time are in love, go right ahead.


Now I know U're just trying to bait me... That wasn't my point. So, on that note, discussion w/U on this topic is done.

"Love Hurts.
Your lies, they cut me.
Now your words don't mean a thing.
I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..."

-Cher, "Woman's World"
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Reply #99 posted 03/27/08 10:27am

Dance

chocolate1 said:

Dance said:



Cynical? Just finding a reason to argue? neutral

Look, if you want to believe that John Travolta and his wife(who keep it pretty low)are in love and that all the couples you see all the time are in love, go right ahead.


Now I know U're just trying to bait me... That wasn't my point. So, on that note, discussion w/U on this topic is done.


You're ridiculous.
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Reply #100 posted 03/27/08 10:29am

Flowerz

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Flowerz said:



yeah, i know Prince wasnt right in the past with his choice of 'hiding' who he dated when it came to darker skinned sisters (Nona, Cat, Robyn and someone mentioned he was calling Kenya too, secretly complimenting her)..... every light skinned person he seem to pick for himself.. doesnt work ..that story Nona told of what he did to her.. i didnt like that.. and see, could be Prince is 'reaping' (it back) for what he's done to females in the past (why his present relationships dont work).. including what he's done to darker skinned sisters..




Have you seen pictures of Cat and Robyn? All you have to do is go to the associated artists thread and look at Powerbaby's (Robyn's) posts. She posts pics in most of them. Robyn is so NOT dark-skinned. They did her makeup darker for Graffiti Bridge. She and Cat are both "yella".
Nona, Tamar and Susan are about as dark as its been for Prince (that the public knows of, at least) and even Susan looks like an island girl (Trini) with thick, naturally curly hair.
Years of racist brainwashing has messed up a lot of minds. I think it was a nice compliment on her part.
Its no secret that Prince has a "type". A lot of people do. Its nobody's business who he dates/sleeps with/marries/whatever. Some of y'all need to stop being so overprotective of a man you'll never have. (not talking about you, Flowerz)

[Edited 3/27/08 9:30am]


im saying... they're not chocolate, but he did seem to be on that 'paper bag' test thing, where a certain 'tone' wouldnt be shown publicly with him.. when Prince dated Cat n Robyn, was a downlow thing.. you didnt see them publicly, no event did he bring them to ..(Sheila always represented him or was with him in the public concerning award shows) and considering the amount of years they were with him, u'd think @ some point, you would have seen them publicly (like you saw him publicly with Kim Bassinger.. there's pictures of that) .. he was screwing Robyn n Kim Bassinger @ the same time... who did he show up with @ the Oscars? Kim... he likes all color women, but back in the day, as far as who he's seen with, just seemed really stereotypical of him to wanna be with certain colors..
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Reply #101 posted 03/27/08 10:45am

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Cat and Robyn aren't chocolate but both of them are lighter than Mani, who he married and was seen with a lot.
Yeah, he's on some paper bag bullsh*t like a lot of brothas from his era. That comes from media and social conditioning. He also helped feed those same stereotypical images himself. I mean how long was it before he did "Black Sweat"? Why was Susan his "Private Joy?" Oops...her age...my bad. lol
You could probably ask Robyn where they went out together or if they did. If you ask her in a nice way, she may not get mad about it.

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Reply #102 posted 03/27/08 10:47am

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Dance said:

chocolate1 said:



Now I know U're just trying to bait me... That wasn't my point. So, on that note, discussion w/U on this topic is done.


You're ridiculous.


That was unnecessary.

"Love Hurts.
Your lies, they cut me.
Now your words don't mean a thing.
I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..."

-Cher, "Woman's World"
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Reply #103 posted 03/27/08 10:51am

Dance

chocolate1 said:

Dance said:



You're ridiculous.


That was unnecessary.


so was claiming that I was baiting you
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Reply #104 posted 03/27/08 10:58am

Flowerz

BlaqueKnight said:

Cat and Robyn aren't chocolate but both of them are lighter than Mani, who he married and was seen with a lot.
Yeah, he's on some paper bag bullsh*t like a lot of brothas from his era. That comes from media and social conditioning. He also helped feed those same stereotypical images himself. I mean how long was it before he did "Black Sweat"? Why was Susan his "Private Joy?" Oops...her age...my bad. lol
You could probably ask Robyn where they went out together or if they did. If you ask her in a nice way, she may not get mad about it.

[Edited 3/27/08 10:47am]


honestly, .. i dont count Mani or Vanity.. they dont count.. because of their beauty, he gladly had them on his arm.. anywhere..
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Reply #105 posted 03/27/08 11:01am

Dance

Here's the thing.

Prince is a biracial man. No, not like Lenny Kravitz, but he's a biracial man. He's basically mainly bearded with biracial women. If he was a white dude that mostly or only dated white women, no one would have anything to say, but because of our culture and some old ideas that we won't let die some people twist their face up at him. If people are going to dig their claws in someone about this there are much better options. lol
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Reply #106 posted 03/27/08 11:17am

Flowerz

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chocolate1 said:

But that's the way it should be... with any of them. Maybe these celebs' relationships would last longer if they worried less about being seen and more about lying low!
That's why I respect couples like Kevin Bacon & Kyra Sedwick. nod


Pretty much all the public relationships are fake. Kevin and Kyra can be put in that category as well.


i had to scroll back a page.. almost forgetting my point lol .. i dont think all celeb couples get married as a 'job'.. they are human and they seek love and want a happy life like the average person .. all of them dont seek out the paparazzi for fame ..
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Reply #107 posted 03/27/08 11:18am

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I never understood why people say Prince dates women that look like him. He doesn't look like any of them. I suspect people say that because he's light and wears his hair straight. But as we all know, P was not born with straight hair. If he wore his hair in a 'fro, would people still think he looked like Vanity, Mani or Mayte...I think not.

As far as the type of women he dates or put in his circle, I think some of it because of social conditioning... and some of it is due to P catering to his audience. He knows that many of his fans prefer for him to be associated with someone that looks like Vanity or Mayte, as oppose to someone that looks like Tamar.

Folks lost their damn minds when Prince brought Tamar on board. They weren't used to P showering that much attention to someone that is unmistakenly Black. If she was a racially ambiguous or if she had taken a role in P's crew like Boni or Rosie(singing behind a keyboard), it would not have been a problem. But he had her front and center...singing, dancing and shaking it up right next to him.
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Reply #108 posted 03/27/08 11:27am

Dance

PurpleCharm said:

I never understood why people say Prince dates women that look like him. He doesn't look like any of them.


confused

You're right.

Prince looks just like Wesley Snipes.
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Reply #109 posted 03/27/08 11:29am

PurpleCharm

Dance said:

PurpleCharm said:

I never understood why people say Prince dates women that look like him. He doesn't look like any of them.


confused

You're right.

Prince looks just like Wesley Snipes.


You really are reachin'

Don't reach too deep.
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Reply #110 posted 03/27/08 11:33am

Flowerz

PurpleCharm said:

I never understood why people say Prince dates women that look like him. He doesn't look like any of them. I suspect people say that because he's light and wears his hair straight. But as we all know, P was not born with straight hair. If he wore his hair in a 'fro, would people still think he looked like Vanity, Mani or Mayte...I think not.

As far as the type of women he dates or put in his circle, I think some of it because of social conditioning... and some of it is due to P catering to his audience. He knows that many of his fans prefer for him to be associated with someone that looks like Vanity or Mayte, as oppose to someone that looks like Tamar.

Folks lost their damn minds when Prince brought Tamar on board. They weren't used to P showering that much attention to someone that is unmistakenly Black. If she was a racially ambiguous or if she had taken a role in P's crew like Boni or Rosie(singing behind a keyboard), it would not have been a problem. But he had her front and center...singing, dancing and shaking it up right next to him.


i think when ppl say that (just my opinion) it's referring to how beautiful the woman is (women looking like him).. cause Prince is somewhat of a 'pretty man'.. so for him to be with anything other than 'super beauty' is just.. unacceptable for some (im referring to some of the 'Who u think Prince should be with' threads and some of the pictures that turn up) ... and yeah, Tamar.. some threads had to be closed cause of ppl's nastiness against her..
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Reply #111 posted 03/27/08 11:33am

Dance

PurpleCharm said:

Dance said:



confused

You're right.

Prince looks just like Wesley Snipes.


You really are reachin'

Don't reach too deep.


Are you threatening me?

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Reply #112 posted 03/27/08 11:34am

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disbelief Tell her to get in line.

lol
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really donĀ“t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #113 posted 03/27/08 11:35am

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Flowerz said:

i think when ppl say that (just my opinion) it's referring to how beautiful the woman is (women looking like him).. cause Prince is somewhat of a 'pretty man'.. so for him to be with anything other than 'super beauty' is just.. unacceptable for some...



You just said A LOT right there

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Reply #114 posted 03/27/08 12:13pm

Flowerz

Dance said:

Flowerz said:

i think when ppl say that (just my opinion) it's referring to how beautiful the woman is (women looking like him).. cause Prince is somewhat of a 'pretty man'.. so for him to be with anything other than 'super beauty' is just.. unacceptable for some...



You just said A LOT right there

WHOA arrow


.. saying .. ppl were really nasty to Tamar cause they had their minds focused on he should be with a Mani/Vanity looker(women looking like him) type.. and 'why's he with her?' questions ..it's nonsense ...
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Reply #115 posted 03/27/08 12:39pm

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Ottensen said:

Whooo lawd this has been an entertaining read!

Funnier still is how we've seen neither hide nor hair of the person who started this thread lol



Da Bitch is hiding out with Diddy

well Diddy can come out of hiding since that story the LA Times reported turned out to be bogus
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Reply #116 posted 03/27/08 1:02pm

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OK, my last post just got eaten so I'm gonna try to say what I was going to post...

I basically said this:

This thread is all over the place but I will put in my twocents

Some one said that Cat and Robin are yellow, and I must say that they are NOT yellow. I don't know how "light" you gotta be in some areas to have "yella status" lol , but those ladies aren't yellow. Now, they obviously aren't the darkest shade of brown, but they are brown, obviously black women. Lighting is something else...there are times where in pictures I look "yella", but I know that's just flash or natural lighting...

And some one else said something about prince not liking black women [in ALL CAPS like they were ever-so certain]...here we go again...Now, black women may not be at the absolute top of his preference list [just like blonde women aren't] but that does not mean that he doesn't like them. We all have our preferences, but I also know that the majority of us have dated out of our preference [unless you're some superficial prick]. What I'm saying is people need to stop speaking for prince, and stop overstating and overgeneralizing things...
"For those who know the number and don't call...Fuck all y'all"
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Reply #117 posted 03/27/08 1:04pm

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And Flowerz I agree a lot with what you're saying. smile
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"For those who know the number and don't call...Fuck all y'all"
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Reply #118 posted 03/27/08 1:09pm

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etifaim said:

obviously black women


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Reply #119 posted 03/27/08 2:11pm

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It always amazes me how delusional Prince fans can be...

I'm sorry to tell you, but PRINCE DON'T LIKE BLACK WOMEN

And please, Prince doesn't date women that look like him ... The women he has dated have mostly been Latinas

And when I say "Latina", I mean southern european type of looking... Prince doesn't look like somebody from Spain or Portugal ...

Prince, way before it becomes "cool", was the first to put spaniard looking women in his videos and movies...

And please, bringing hip hop videos to avoid the true is even dumber... Most hip hip artists don't even choose the girls that appear in their videos, most hip hop/r&b are artists are married with average looking black women...


I don't undesrtand why it's so hard for Prince fans to admit the TRUE...

Even Michael Jackson has constantly put black women in his videos even when he turned straight white...


It always amazes me how people see what they want and speak from fiction rather than fact. It is inaccurate to state that Prince "DOES NOT LIKE BLACK WOMEN." How do you know that? Did he confide that in you? How do you define a black woman? Just because a sista is light does not mean that she is not black.

Prince has not mostly dated Latinas. Most of his women have been half black but not Spaniard or Mediterranean looking Latinas. Do Vanity, Sheila E, Susan Moonsie, Robyn Power, Jill Jones, Troy Beyer, Cat, Nona Gaye or Mani look like Spaniards or any other Europeans to you? They don't to me. They are all black or part black. Mayte and Ana Garcia are the only Latinas that I can think of off hand who Prince has dated. Where white women are concerned, I know of Susannah Melvoin, Kim Bassinger, Carmen Electra and Carole Davis. So you should check your facts there. He has had a mix of women where race is concerned but most of them do favor him - they are olive skinned with dark hair and brown eyes. That's why so many of these women look similar.

Also, many of the current Hip-hop & R&B artists do have Latina or mixed girlfriends and/or wives and sport them as arm candy. I don't know where you have been, but I have worked in the entertainment industry and I know what I see.

The artists or their reps DO pick the girls in the videos in many instances - or they tell the directors what they want. Again, I know this from industry experience.

Finally, what black women has MJ constantly put in videos? Naomi Campbell, Iman, Tatiana - yeah, they are all average looking black women. The TWO dark sisters are SUPERMODELS! And Ola Ray from Thriller was a Playboy bunny. All of Michael's so-called wives and "girlfriends" have been white in real life, so what is your point?
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