Flowerz said: perfectly normal what she said.. tons of women are saying the same.. and Prince DOES date darker skinned women (Nona)
I sat here debating for a couple of minutes whether to comment: I wonder if Nona would be thrilled to know that besides being Marvin's daughter, her claim to fame in the Prince community is being THE brown-skinned Sista that he's dated. Flowerz, girl, U know we're cool, but the only one people name is Nona. Y? Because she's the only one they can. Most of the women Prince dates look the same.... and they ALL "pass the paper bag test". "Love Hurts. Your lies, they cut me. Now your words don't mean a thing. I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..." -Cher, "Woman's World" | |
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"The 'American Boy' singer said that Prince has an "aura" about him that makes him irresistible to women"
its called 'the prince charming effect'. mindful women arent coerced by it | |
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chocolate1 said: Flowerz said: perfectly normal what she said.. tons of women are saying the same.. and Prince DOES date darker skinned women (Nona)
I sat here debating for a couple of minutes whether to comment: I wonder if Nona would be thrilled to know that besides being Marvin's daughter, her claim to fame in the Prince community is being THE brown-skinned Sista that he's dated. Flowerz, girl, U know we're cool, but the only one people name is Nona. Y? Because she's the only one they can. Most of the women Prince dates look the same.... and they ALL "pass the paper bag test". yeah, i know Prince wasnt right in the past with his choice of 'hiding' who he dated when it came to darker skinned sisters (Nona, Cat, Robyn and someone mentioned he was calling Kenya too, secretly complimenting her)..... every light skinned person he seem to pick for himself.. doesnt work ..that story Nona told of what he did to her.. i didnt like that.. and see, could be Prince is 'reaping' (it back) for what he's done to females in the past (why his present relationships dont work).. including what he's done to darker skinned sisters.. | |
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chocolate1 said: they ALL "pass the paper bag test".
So does he | |
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Dance said: chocolate1 said: they ALL "pass the paper bag test".
So does he "Love Hurts. Your lies, they cut me. Now your words don't mean a thing. I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..." -Cher, "Woman's World" | |
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i think anybody choosing a person to date.. based on that 'paper bag' thing.. is so wrong (there are some seriously fiiiiine chocolate ppl, i know cause ive dated them) .. choosing a person cause of their 'looks' is also wrong.. they could be finer than fine as can be, and also be the most evil, stuck up, conceited person... | |
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chocolate1 said: Dance said: So does he I just don't think it's unusual for someone to date people that look like them... | |
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Flowerz said: i think anybody choosing a person to date.. based on that 'paper bag' thing.. is so wrong (there are some seriously fiiiiine chocolate ppl, i know cause ive dated them) .. choosing a person cause of their 'looks' is also wrong.. they could be finer than fine as can be, and also be the most evil, stuck up, conceited person...
I just don't like when "dark skin" and "ugly" become interchangable in a conversation. If a person has some other feature/quality that might be construed as ugly, then so be it. But to call someone unattractive because he/she is not as light-skinned as someone else is ridiculous. Prince is not the only one guilty of this. Listen to the words of some of the raps/R&B songs where they describe what is "fine". Very few mention "chocolate skin" as an option. The videos echo that sentiment with the majority of the girls cast. "Love Hurts. Your lies, they cut me. Now your words don't mean a thing. I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..." -Cher, "Woman's World" | |
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Dance said: chocolate1 said: they ALL "pass the paper bag test".
So does he yall are off the chain with that one..... THE B EST BE YOURSELF AS LONG AS YOUR SELF ISNT A DYCK[/r]
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chocolate1 said: Flowerz said: i think anybody choosing a person to date.. based on that 'paper bag' thing.. is so wrong (there are some seriously fiiiiine chocolate ppl, i know cause ive dated them) .. choosing a person cause of their 'looks' is also wrong.. they could be finer than fine as can be, and also be the most evil, stuck up, conceited person...
I just don't like when "dark skin" and "ugly" become interchangable in a conversation. If a person has some other feature/quality that might be construed as ugly, then so be it. But to call someone unattractive because he/she is not as light-skinned as someone else is ridiculous. Prince is not the only one guilty of this. Listen to the words of some of the raps/R&B songs where they describe what is "fine". Very few mention "chocolate skin" as an option. The videos echo that sentiment with the majority of the girls cast. it's a messed up stereotype .. and you have darker skinned ppl that look better than lighter skinned ones...now personally to me, i always thought Nona looked better than Mayte.. Mayte is georgous, but Nona had this exotic look thing back in the 90's ..was very beautiful.. .. Nia Long, Sanaa Lathan, Jennifer Hudson.. they are georgous chicks.. spelling edit [Edited 3/26/08 17:39pm] | |
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myfavorite said: Dance said: So does he yall are off the chain with that one..... What's "off the chain" about those comments? | |
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Desire2006 said: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/a92240/estelle-i-wanted-to-be-princes-lover.html
If I was Prince, I wouldnt even give this ho a second look!!!!! Does she know that Prince doesn't like darker skinned sisters ?? [Edited 3/26/08 18:48pm] | |
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SO Estelle (love her song) decides to say how she thinks Prince is fine and would offer herself to him and all most of everyone can say is how she is a bitch...hoe..."dark skinned"...lord have mercy, society will never come to terms with the allure, sensuality and power of a black woman. We will forever be denied the same consideration that a lighter skinned woman will always get. Much love to my lighter skinned sistas cuz they go through their trials and tribulations also. Im not as dark as Estelle, I am mocha but I am easily offended when a beautiful dark skinned sista gets called out her name because people automatically associate dark=ugly. As for Prince, yes we are all familiar with his choice of women, at least in public. If he has dated black women besides the public affair with Nona Gaye, and it has been on the low then it hurts me to hear this. I have never heard him speak out of terms about a dark skinned woman and I know when I had the opportunity to meet him, he didnt take his eyes off of me and even grabbed my hand. He wasnt repulsed nor did he ignore me. He seems to love all women. & | |
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CherrieMoonKisses said: SO Estelle (love her song) decides to say how she thinks Prince is fine and would offer herself to him and all most of everyone can say is how she is a bitch...hoe..."dark skinned"...lord have mercy, society will never come to terms with the allure, sensuality and power of a black woman. We will forever be denied the same consideration that a lighter skinned woman will always get. Much love to my lighter skinned sistas cuz they go through their trials and tribulations also. Im not as dark as Estelle, I am mocha but I am easily offended when a beautiful dark skinned sista gets called out her name because people automatically associate dark=ugly. As for Prince, yes we are all familiar with his choice of women, at least in public. If he has dated black women besides the public affair with Nona Gaye, and it has been on the low then it hurts me to hear this. I have never heard him speak out of terms about a dark skinned woman and I know when I had the opportunity to meet him, he didnt take his eyes off of me and even grabbed my hand. He wasnt repulsed nor did he ignore me. He seems to love all women.
Thank U for that... I, too, am not very dark, but in no means "light" (pic thread in GD). I agree that it is hurtful that we are even separated by tone. Preference is one thing; I would have a TOTALLY different opinion of Prince if he DID speak out against us, music or no music. "Love Hurts. Your lies, they cut me. Now your words don't mean a thing. I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..." -Cher, "Woman's World" | |
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Wow, what happened to this subject? As for me, I'm only joking when I mock anger at this subject. (Only for the reason it's more competition for his affections. She can have him if she wants... ) | |
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Is this even the right forum for this thread?
Why does she have to be a bitch? Folks need to check their minds and the readiness to use that term. We really need to consider the genesis of it, especially where black women (of all hues) are concerned. As others have pointed out, she was very complimentary. I agree with her, he had the same effect on me when I met him. Also, I am not light or dark, and he was VERY kind and warm with me. Honestly, I have less of an issue with Prince dating women who look like him than I do with people who specifically seek out people who look nothing like them. Or these R&B and Rap artists who have videos littered with women who look NOTHING like them. My preference is for men who look similar to me. However, that does not mean that I don't notice a fine man who doesn't resemble me. I am sure that is the case with Prince. He has his "type" but he is not blind. He has strayed from that type at times with women like Nona Gaye and Kim Bassinger. Although he usually sticks with his type, women who look like him - Vanity, Mani, Mayte, Susan Moonsie, Sheila E., Maneca Lightner, Troy Beyer, Robyn Power, dag he's had so many women that I can't even keep up. Anyway, you get my point. perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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chocolate1 said: Flowerz said: perfectly normal what she said.. tons of women are saying the same.. and Prince DOES date darker skinned women (Nona)
I sat here debating for a couple of minutes whether to comment: I wonder if Nona would be thrilled to know that besides being Marvin's daughter, her claim to fame in the Prince community is being THE brown-skinned Sista that he's dated. Flowerz, girl, U know we're cool, but the only one people name is Nona. Y? Because she's the only one they can. Most of the women Prince dates look the same.... and they ALL "pass the paper bag test". To me, this is the key: Nona is the ONLY "brown-skinned" girl the public "knows" about. However, I think P likes pussy no matter what color the skin is. I say this because I saw him pushing up on all kinds of women in Vegas, somewhat on the low, but he was definitely flirting. And more often than not they were sisters, not mixed, not necessarily light-skinned but bona "fine" sistas. I noticed this especially with Sanaa Lathan. She went to several shows, was on stage several times, and I heard him a couple of times when he sang Black Sweat change the lyric to: "You'll be screaming like Sanaa Lathan, when I count to three." Now I ain't saying he hit but that shows IMO that he lettin' her know that he'd be down. Shoot, he even pointed at me and holla'd Sexual Chocolate at ME in an aftershow and I'm dark. And for the record, best believe he was bangin' Tamar. So I think the real issue is that no one knows what he's REALLY doing because he keeps his shit on the low-low. Shit, he's had a girlfriend for the last year and a half and MOST people aren't even aware of it. I'm just saying brotha be doin' his thang behind the scenes and I think it's a huge assumption to make that he excludes dark women from his roster. Prince got a whole rainbow o' hoes. Maybe the real issue is that people only notice or pay attention to the Vanities, Maytes, and Manis because they are more readily accepted as beautiful, as opposed to Tamar or Nona??? | |
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SCNDLS said: chocolate1 said: I sat here debating for a couple of minutes whether to comment: I wonder if Nona would be thrilled to know that besides being Marvin's daughter, her claim to fame in the Prince community is being THE brown-skinned Sista that he's dated. Flowerz, girl, U know we're cool, but the only one people name is Nona. Y? Because she's the only one they can. Most of the women Prince dates look the same.... and they ALL "pass the paper bag test". To me, this is the key: Nona is the ONLY "brown-skinned" girl the public "knows" about. However, I think P likes pussy no matter what color the skin is. I say this because I saw him pushing up on all kinds of women in Vegas, somewhat on the low, but he was definitely flirting. And more often than not they were sisters, not mixed, not necessarily light-skinned but bona "fine" sistas. I noticed this especially with Sanaa Lathan. She went to several shows, was on stage several times, and I heard him a couple of times when he sang Black Sweat change the lyric to: "You'll be screaming like Sanaa Lathan, when I count to three." Now I ain't saying he hit but that shows IMO that he lettin' her know that he'd be down. Shoot, he even pointed at me and holla'd Sexual Chocolate at ME in an aftershow and I'm dark. And for the record, best believe he was bangin' Tamar. So I think the real issue is that no one knows what he's REALLY doing because he keeps his shit on the low-low. Shit, he's had a girlfriend for the last year and a half and MOST people aren't even aware of it. I'm just saying brotha be doin' his thang behind the scenes and I think it's a huge assumption to make that he excludes dark women from his roster. Prince got a whole rainbow o' hoes. Maybe the real issue is that people only notice or pay attention to the Vanities, Maytes, and Manis because they are more readily accepted as beautiful, as opposed to Tamar or Nona??? Point so well taken! Whenever people start posting who they think Prince should be with,.... So back to what I was saying... society does not always give us brown-skinned Sistas love. "Love Hurts. Your lies, they cut me. Now your words don't mean a thing. I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..." -Cher, "Woman's World" | |
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chocolate1 said: Whenever people start posting who they think Prince should be with,....
They post pics of the types he usually seems to date dumb, skanky, and olive or light brown | |
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chocolate1 said: Point so well taken!
Whenever people start posting who they think Prince should be with,.... So back to what I was saying... society does not always give us brown-skinned Sistas love. True, true, it is what it is and I can't/don't let other people's narrowminded view of what's attractive affect me. I KNOW I'm tha shit regardless of what anyone else thinks, that self-confidence extends way beyond the physical. Everyone has their preference and most black men nowadays don't really gravitate to dark-skinned sistas but that's alright. If you're that hung up on skin color I don't want your triflin' ass anyway. As for P, I'm of the opinion that for EVERY one chick we see him out with or that he claims (and really there have not been that many in the last 30 years) I think there are dozens of undercover girls he's been with that run the gamut in race, shade, hair texture, etc. I'm still amazed that after sooooo many hookups more of these unknown girls have not spoken publically about him. [Edited 3/26/08 19:55pm] | |
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SCNDLS said: chocolate1 said: I sat here debating for a couple of minutes whether to comment: I wonder if Nona would be thrilled to know that besides being Marvin's daughter, her claim to fame in the Prince community is being THE brown-skinned Sista that he's dated. Flowerz, girl, U know we're cool, but the only one people name is Nona. Y? Because she's the only one they can. Most of the women Prince dates look the same.... and they ALL "pass the paper bag test". To me, this is the key: Nona is the ONLY "brown-skinned" girl the public "knows" about. However, I think P likes pussy no matter what color the skin is. I say this because I saw him pushing up on all kinds of women in Vegas, somewhat on the low, but he was definitely flirting. And more often than not they were sisters, not mixed, not necessarily light-skinned but bona "fine" sistas. I noticed this especially with Sanaa Lathan. She went to several shows, was on stage several times, and I heard him a couple of times when he sang Black Sweat change the lyric to: "You'll be screaming like Sanaa Lathan, when I count to three." Now I ain't saying he hit but that shows IMO that he lettin' her know that he'd be down. Shoot, he even pointed at me and holla'd Sexual Chocolate at ME in an aftershow and I'm dark. And for the record, best believe he was bangin' Tamar. So I think the real issue is that no one knows what he's REALLY doing because he keeps his shit on the low-low. Shit, he's had a girlfriend for the last year and a half and MOST people aren't even aware of it. I'm just saying brotha be doin' his thang behind the scenes and I think it's a huge assumption to make that he excludes dark women from his roster. Prince got a whole rainbow o' hoes. Maybe the real issue is that people only notice or pay attention to the Vanities, Maytes, and Manis because they are more readily accepted as beautiful, as opposed to Tamar or Nona??? i believe you .. him n Manuela split up in 2005 .. there's no way he's gonna just stay away from women for 3 years.. no way.. he's either had somebody or currently has someone now | |
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Flowerz said: SCNDLS said: To me, this is the key: Nona is the ONLY "brown-skinned" girl the public "knows" about. However, I think P likes pussy no matter what color the skin is. I say this because I saw him pushing up on all kinds of women in Vegas, somewhat on the low, but he was definitely flirting. And more often than not they were sisters, not mixed, not necessarily light-skinned but bona "fine" sistas. I noticed this especially with Sanaa Lathan. She went to several shows, was on stage several times, and I heard him a couple of times when he sang Black Sweat change the lyric to: "You'll be screaming like Sanaa Lathan, when I count to three." Now I ain't saying he hit but that shows IMO that he lettin' her know that he'd be down. Shoot, he even pointed at me and holla'd Sexual Chocolate at ME in an aftershow and I'm dark. And for the record, best believe he was bangin' Tamar. So I think the real issue is that no one knows what he's REALLY doing because he keeps his shit on the low-low. Shit, he's had a girlfriend for the last year and a half and MOST people aren't even aware of it. I'm just saying brotha be doin' his thang behind the scenes and I think it's a huge assumption to make that he excludes dark women from his roster. Prince got a whole rainbow o' hoes. Maybe the real issue is that people only notice or pay attention to the Vanities, Maytes, and Manis because they are more readily accepted as beautiful, as opposed to Tamar or Nona??? i believe you .. him n Manuela split up in 2005 .. there's no way he's gonna just stay away from women for 3 years.. no way.. he's either had somebody or currently has someone now One thing I can say about Prince, he trains and molds his women to behave EXACTLY how he wants them to and these fools are happy to comply. More power to 'em. That's why they are not in the public eye, sit at a separate table than him at various events, don't go to awards shows, no red carpet events, stay home instead of going to London, etc. Hence why the general public have no idea who or what he's doing. He's a fucking master at this. Not to mention he's breakin' all kinds of JW rules so yet ANOTHER reason to keep his freak out of public view. | |
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SCNDLS said: One thing I can say about Prince, he trains and molds his women to behave EXACTLY how he wants them to and these fools are happy to comply. More power to 'em. That's why they are not in the public eye, sit at a separate table than him at various events, don't go to awards shows, no red carpet events, stay home instead of going to London, etc. Hence why the general public have no idea who or what he's doing. He's a fucking master at this. Not to mention he's breakin' all kinds of JW rules so yet ANOTHER reason to keep his freak out of public view.
U sound like an "insider" "Love Hurts. Your lies, they cut me. Now your words don't mean a thing. I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..." -Cher, "Woman's World" | |
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chocolate1 said: SCNDLS said: One thing I can say about Prince, he trains and molds his women to behave EXACTLY how he wants them to and these fools are happy to comply. More power to 'em. That's why they are not in the public eye, sit at a separate table than him at various events, don't go to awards shows, no red carpet events, stay home instead of going to London, etc. Hence why the general public have no idea who or what he's doing. He's a fucking master at this. Not to mention he's breakin' all kinds of JW rules so yet ANOTHER reason to keep his freak out of public view.
U sound like an "insider" Definitely NOT an insider just REALLY observant. | |
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SCNDLS said: chocolate1 said: U sound like an "insider" Definitely NOT an insider just REALLY observant. Gotcha! "Love Hurts. Your lies, they cut me. Now your words don't mean a thing. I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..." -Cher, "Woman's World" | |
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Oh, and calling ol' girl a bitch and a hoe simply for having the audacity to express her appreciation of Prince was WAY outta order. | |
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SCNDLS said: Not to mention he's breakin' all kinds of JW rules so yet ANOTHER reason to keep his freak out of public view.
I doubt he cares about JW rules anymore. He's been singing Happy Birthday and going to Birthday parties like every day for the last month or so... | |
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Dance said: SCNDLS said: Not to mention he's breakin' all kinds of JW rules so yet ANOTHER reason to keep his freak out of public view.
I doubt he cares about JW rules anymore. He's been singing Happy Birthday and going to Birthday parties like every day for the last month or so... He's been doing a whole lot more than that for awhile now. But it's not for public consumption which allows him to maintain this facade that he's still righteous and not consumed by the flesh, etc. Saying shit like, "I'ma go home and read the Bible after this tour" at a press conferece. I'm not saying he's not religious or spiritual but he's definitely not complying with many of the JW rules, but who's gonna call him on it or hold him accountable if it's all done on the low???? And I do think that appearances are very important and he wants to be viewed as some newly reformed paragon of rectitude. But as my mama always said, "That which is done in the dark always come to the light." He's still my boo though. . . lil hypocrite. | |
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SCNDLS said: Flowerz said: i believe you .. him n Manuela split up in 2005 .. there's no way he's gonna just stay away from women for 3 years.. no way.. he's either had somebody or currently has someone now One thing I can say about Prince, he trains and molds his women to behave EXACTLY how he wants them to and these fools are happy to comply. More power to 'em. That's why they are not in the public eye, sit at a separate table than him at various events, don't go to awards shows, no red carpet events, stay home instead of going to London, etc. Hence why the general public have no idea who or what he's doing. He's a fucking master at this. Not to mention he's breakin' all kinds of JW rules so yet ANOTHER reason to keep his freak out of public view. Hey SCNDLS!! I am not an insider either, but you are dead on. I have seen and heard some things that I will not comment on in order to respect P's privacy, but he DEFINITELY has not been alone for awhile now. He does operate on the low with his WOMEN and I like that about him. It's really nobody's business. If you are ever in close proximity at times you see things and know who's who but it's the kind of thing that folks know to respect and keep private. However, he has definitely had a steady since Mani. perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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