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Reply #210 posted 03/26/08 3:41pm

midnightmover

Now, here's your proof (as if it was needed) of how MJ just can't cut it anymore vocally. He sings live here for a grand total of 6 seconds and no sane person would deny that those 6 seconds sound awful. It starts at 4.27 and finishes at 4.33. Listen particularly to that last "Baby". He just flat-out cannot hit the note. Remember, 4.27 to 4.33. Those are the magic numbers. Enjoy.

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Reply #211 posted 03/26/08 3:45pm

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Annika said:

midnightmover said:


Wrong. For instance fans will always point to vocals on albums as proof that MJ can still sing. When you point out that that is not the same thing as singing live, and that those vocals have been patched together, they simply don't understand the point and ignore it.

It's not an opinion that you can fix things up in the studio. It's a simple fact. MJ fans don't understand these facts. That's why you have to repeat it to them over and over.



Aaah, don't cry about it, son. I realize it must be tough to find out what a dim tribe you belong to, but it's really not worth crying over. Here, have a hug. hug Feel better now? lol
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Reply #212 posted 03/26/08 4:27pm

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I wouldn't know how. I'm not as tech-savvy as you guys. I've got the footage on a VHS tape. I don't have a recordable DVD either and I have no intention of asking any friends to handle Michael Jackson footage for me. No offense, but he's a childish act and it would be embarrassing. People I hang out with are into Bob Dylan, Prince, Stevie, etc. Grown-up artists. I've managed to convert a few to Cyndi Lauper though. Just showed them a few clips and they saw what I meant right away. MJ's another thing though.

Hmmm that's weird. I have friends who are really into Dylan, Stevie, Marvin, Prince and other artists but they also like Michael also. Now Cyndi Lauper? That's a different story lol

Stevie and Prince were bad examples since they are closely linked to Mike, but most of the other names that came to mind were people you guys would never have heard of.

Oh, and you need to enlighten your friends about Cyndi Lauper. She's the only popular performer out there today worth watching, apart from Prince of course. cool
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Reply #213 posted 03/26/08 4:31pm

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midrov you sound more obsessed than the average fan- being out of breath and not being able to sing are two distictly different things.

we all know that you go to sleep clutching your autographed thriller album every night. Quit denying yourself the pleasure of totally being a fan too.
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Reply #214 posted 03/26/08 4:56pm

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Evvy said:

midrov you sound more obsessed than the average fan- being out of breath and not being able to sing are two distictly different things.

we all know that you go to sleep clutching your autographed thriller album every night. Quit denying yourself the pleasure of totally being a fan too.

I was wondering what the excuse was gonna be. Yeah, he was out of breath, but a good singer would not be capable of sounding that atrocious.
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Reply #215 posted 03/26/08 5:03pm

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midnightmover said:

Now, here's your proof (as if it was needed) of how MJ just can't cut it anymore vocally. He sings live here for a grand total of 6 seconds and no sane person would deny that those 6 seconds sound awful. It starts at 4.27 and finishes at 4.33. Listen particularly to that last "Baby". He just flat-out cannot hit the note. Remember, 4.27 to 4.33. Those are the magic numbers. Enjoy.


when i'm at the gym, running or doing some other kind of cardio workout, i can't sing (or talk) very well. just sayin'.
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Reply #216 posted 03/26/08 5:03pm

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midnightmover said:

Now, here's your proof (as if it was needed) of how MJ just can't cut it anymore vocally. He sings live here for a grand total of 6 seconds and no sane person would deny that those 6 seconds sound awful. It starts at 4.27 and finishes at 4.33. Listen particularly to that last "Baby". He just flat-out cannot hit the note. Remember, 4.27 to 4.33. Those are the magic numbers. Enjoy.



Sitting in the studio where you can take your time to get down the vocal correctly is much different then trying to hit a note after 4 minutes of dancing. MJ not being able to hit a note after 4 minutes of dancing is no proof that he can't sing anymore.

He already proved he could still sing on Invincible with Butterflies, Break Of Dawn, Heaven Can Wait, Speechless, Whatever Happens, Don't Walk Away.

And the vocals for the track "For all Time" on Thriller 25 are brand new.

You don't dance in the studio when recording your tracks
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Reply #217 posted 03/26/08 5:59pm

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BabyBeMine said:

midnightmover said:

Now, here's your proof (as if it was needed) of how MJ just can't cut it anymore vocally. He sings live here for a grand total of 6 seconds and no sane person would deny that those 6 seconds sound awful. It starts at 4.27 and finishes at 4.33. Listen particularly to that last "Baby". He just flat-out cannot hit the note. Remember, 4.27 to 4.33. Those are the magic numbers. Enjoy.



Sitting in the studio where you can take your time to get down the vocal correctly is much different then trying to hit a note after 4 minutes of dancing. MJ not being able to hit a note after 4 minutes of dancing is no proof that he can't sing anymore.

He already proved he could still sing on Invincible with Butterflies, Break Of Dawn, Heaven Can Wait, Speechless, Whatever Happens, Don't Walk Away.

And the vocals for the track "For all Time" on Thriller 25 are brand new.

You don't dance in the studio when recording your tracks


Yes, exactly. And the video I posted was from 2006, and sounds great. This is from 2002, 4 years before. So a vid from 2002 is not going to prove he can't cut it vocally any more.
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Reply #218 posted 03/26/08 6:01pm

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Rodney said:


what a fool....that was a great moment. see where he cried during his speech to JB....well, that's where he was headed....to give a speech....

Indeed you are, son. Indeed you are. Surely you must have noticed that Mike specialized in awkward moments during this period. He was always out of synch with his surroundings. This was when he mistook a birthday cake at the MTV Awards for an Artist of the Millennium Award. lol This was when he nearly tripped up Boris Becker in Germany by going up on stage too early. This was also baby dangling time. That speech you referred to was another example of how out of it he was. Talk about over-emotional. He'd obviously been visiting the same pharmacist as Paula Abdul. lol
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I think everybody noticed the akward moments during that time.....but that moment wasn't one of them.
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Reply #219 posted 03/26/08 8:59pm

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i go there with you... you just have to take a look: since thriller he always puts a "Rock"-song on his album.

Dirty Diana
Give In To Me
D.S.
Privacy

but they became worse each time...

it's just that MJ's missing a thing called artistic integrity. he never tries to express himself at all. Stranger in Moscow was something special. Well, most of the HIStory album was personal but not really. there's still a distance...
I think the older he becomes the more distant he gets...


I really agree with this. I DO NOT want to turn this into a MJ vs. P debate, because its like apples and oranges at this point. But I was in Minneapolis this past summer at the 7.7.07 concerts and a lady was saying how she used to be a big MJ fan but over time she converted to Prince because she felt like she got to know Prince through his music. She said she never felt like Michael put himself into his music, that it was always the producer's concept of Michael. She said you never got to know Michael. She said it wasn't as apparent early on but as time progressed with each new album it was clear that Michael was diconnected from the songs. Like his love songs were just generic songs, you did not get the feeling that he ever felt the real feelings that are involved in relationships, just ideas of them. When I reflected on MJ's music, I thought she really made a good, interesting point.
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Reply #220 posted 03/26/08 11:34pm

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bellanoche said:

graecophilos said:

i go there with you... you just have to take a look: since thriller he always puts a "Rock"-song on his album.

Dirty Diana
Give In To Me
D.S.
Privacy

but they became worse each time...

it's just that MJ's missing a thing called artistic integrity. he never tries to express himself at all. Stranger in Moscow was something special. Well, most of the HIStory album was personal but not really. there's still a distance...
I think the older he becomes the more distant he gets...


I really agree with this. I DO NOT want to turn this into a MJ vs. P debate, because its like apples and oranges at this point. But I was in Minneapolis this past summer at the 7.7.07 concerts and a lady was saying how she used to be a big MJ fan but over time she converted to Prince because she felt like she got to know Prince through his music. She said she never felt like Michael put himself into his music, that it was always the producer's concept of Michael. She said you never got to know Michael. She said it wasn't as apparent early on but as time progressed with each new album it was clear that Michael was diconnected from the songs. Like his love songs were just generic songs, you did not get the feeling that he ever felt the real feelings that are involved in relationships, just ideas of them. When I reflected on MJ's music, I thought she really made a good, interesting point.


I'm not sure about that. Certainly, Prince is on a whole 'nother level in terms of this, but I do feel I've gotten to know Michael through his music over the years. Certainly his happy love songs are completely generic, but let's face it, relationships with women are not his forte. His angry songs, however, be they about love, or more general, certainly come from the heart. You don't get much real happy or affection from Mike, but you certainly get a lot of rage, pain and paranoia (see pretty much all of HIStory).

Just my two cents. smile
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Reply #221 posted 03/26/08 11:58pm

alphastreet

midnightmover said:

Rodney said:


what a fool....that was a great moment. see where he cried during his speech to JB....well, that's where he was headed....to give a speech....

Indeed you are, son. Indeed you are. Surely you must have noticed that Mike specialized in awkward moments during this period. He was always out of synch with his surroundings. This was when he mistook a birthday cake at the MTV Awards for an Artist of the Millennium Award. lol This was when he nearly tripped up Boris Becker in Germany by going up on stage too early. This was also baby dangling time. That speech you referred to was another example of how out of it he was. Talk about over-emotional. He'd obviously been visiting the same pharmacist as Paula Abdul. lol
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excuse my "fandom" kicking in, but prior to this award presentation, it was said by some sources that he was going to get the millenium award and by other media outlets that it was on his birthday. After receiving the award, the winners of awards that night were listed on the mtv site, and it listed mj as winning 'artist of the millenium' and a few hours later, was taken down from what I recall. While I'm not denying that he was so out of touch with his surroundings at the time and having health issues, I really think that this was a joke planned by mtv, all for ratings. If you think about it, this happened at the very beginning of the show, at a time when the host who is usually a comedian makes jokes about celebs that year who made headlines, he WAS the punchline. If my joke theory is out of line, then maybe it was a miscommunication and his people gave him the wrong information about what he was there for that night. Remember, this was the time when he had the worst people around him he could ever have, so it comes off as a setup, whether intentional or not
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Reply #222 posted 03/27/08 12:01am

alphastreet

midnightmover said:

Now, here's your proof (as if it was needed) of how MJ just can't cut it anymore vocally. He sings live here for a grand total of 6 seconds and no sane person would deny that those 6 seconds sound awful. It starts at 4.27 and finishes at 4.33. Listen particularly to that last "Baby". He just flat-out cannot hit the note. Remember, 4.27 to 4.33. Those are the magic numbers. Enjoy.



I remember that and being surprised, but if you're out of breath and moving around, it's easy to hit the wrong note, though it sounds like his voice also kind of cracked at the same time during that. He was clearly not fit to perform that night, as I remember him having a sore ankle that night.
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Reply #223 posted 03/27/08 2:53am

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alphastreet said:

midnightmover said:


Indeed you are, son. Indeed you are. Surely you must have noticed that Mike specialized in awkward moments during this period. He was always out of synch with his surroundings. This was when he mistook a birthday cake at the MTV Awards for an Artist of the Millennium Award. lol This was when he nearly tripped up Boris Becker in Germany by going up on stage too early. This was also baby dangling time. That speech you referred to was another example of how out of it he was. Talk about over-emotional. He'd obviously been visiting the same pharmacist as Paula Abdul. lol
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excuse my "fandom" kicking in, but prior to this award presentation, it was said by some sources that he was going to get the millenium award and by other media outlets that it was on his birthday. After receiving the award, the winners of awards that night were listed on the mtv site, and it listed mj as winning 'artist of the millenium' and a few hours later, was taken down from what I recall. While I'm not denying that he was so out of touch with his surroundings at the time and having health issues, I really think that this was a joke planned by mtv, all for ratings. If you think about it, this happened at the very beginning of the show, at a time when the host who is usually a comedian makes jokes about celebs that year who made headlines, he WAS the punchline. If my joke theory is out of line, then maybe it was a miscommunication and his people gave him the wrong information about what he was there for that night. Remember, this was the time when he had the worst people around him he could ever have, so it comes off as a setup, whether intentional or not
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You're right my friend. I posted proof (the screenshot) in another thread here before, but it was not responded to. Here it is again. Hopefully some people will see it this time:

It was OBVIOUS sabotage. That screenshot is hardly a misunderstanding. That screenshot is from AFTER the awards ceremony. They even call his "Millennium award" "unprecedented".

But yeah, there's no doubt a lot of strange shit happened and he even admitted to being on meds in most of 2003. So yeah, that can't be disputed.
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Reply #224 posted 03/27/08 4:52am

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marnifrances said:

alphastreet said:



excuse my "fandom" kicking in, but prior to this award presentation, it was said by some sources that he was going to get the millenium award and by other media outlets that it was on his birthday. After receiving the award, the winners of awards that night were listed on the mtv site, and it listed mj as winning 'artist of the millenium' and a few hours later, was taken down from what I recall. While I'm not denying that he was so out of touch with his surroundings at the time and having health issues, I really think that this was a joke planned by mtv, all for ratings. If you think about it, this happened at the very beginning of the show, at a time when the host who is usually a comedian makes jokes about celebs that year who made headlines, he WAS the punchline. If my joke theory is out of line, then maybe it was a miscommunication and his people gave him the wrong information about what he was there for that night. Remember, this was the time when he had the worst people around him he could ever have, so it comes off as a setup, whether intentional or not
[Edited 3/26/08 23:59pm]


You're right my friend. I posted proof (the screenshot) in another thread here before, but it was not responded to. Here it is again. Hopefully some people will see it this time:

It was OBVIOUS sabotage. That screenshot is hardly a misunderstanding. That screenshot is from AFTER the awards ceremony. They even call his "Millennium award" "unprecedented".

But yeah, there's no doubt a lot of strange shit happened and he even admitted to being on meds in most of 2003. So yeah, that can't be disputed.
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YOu know, MJ fans are said to be blind to certain things, but as you can see the public is blind too to the things they don´t wanna see. If the news does not allow them to pick up on him, they ignore it.
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Reply #225 posted 03/27/08 6:12am

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Funny you should say that! I try and post this proof every time I see a non fan saying "Mj was a dickhead and mistook a birthday cake and giant music note for a millennium award. How embarrassing". but whenever I do show it to people, it goes ignored. lol Oh well, I try my best.

I'm just sick of people saying that fans are blind. Well, this is staring me straight in the face, and I can read. eek

YES Michael received a Millennium award and YES it was sabotage with what MTV and the media did to him afterward. No doubt about it. lol
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Reply #226 posted 03/27/08 6:43am

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alphastreet said:

I remember that and being surprised, but if you're out of breath and moving around, it's easy to hit the wrong note, though it sounds like his voice also kind of cracked at the same time during that. He was clearly not fit to perform that night, as I remember him having a sore ankle that night.

Yes, and also usually he's slim and fit, but during that time he was totally out of shape! Just look at him! That was also visible during the early part of the Bashir thing... I agree though that it was amazing to see him that out of breath after a relatively short performance!
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Reply #227 posted 03/27/08 6:47am

midnightmover

alphastreet said:

midnightmover said:

Now, here's your proof (as if it was needed) of how MJ just can't cut it anymore vocally. He sings live here for a grand total of 6 seconds and no sane person would deny that those 6 seconds sound awful. It starts at 4.27 and finishes at 4.33. Listen particularly to that last "Baby". He just flat-out cannot hit the note. Remember, 4.27 to 4.33. Those are the magic numbers. Enjoy.



I remember that and being surprised, but if you're out of breath and moving around, it's easy to hit the wrong note, though it sounds like his voice also kind of cracked at the same time during that. He was clearly not fit to perform that night, as I remember him having a sore ankle that night.

Like you said, his voice cracked. Your voice does not crack just because you're out of breath. A good singer, even when out of breath, will at least sound halfway decent. A good singer just wouldn't be capable of sounding that bad.
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Reply #228 posted 03/27/08 6:51am

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Well, you should finally accept that Michael is no robot and even a good singer, yeah, like MJ isn't, would have a problem sounding good when he's out of breath and not in a good shape!
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Reply #229 posted 03/27/08 6:52am

midnightmover

marnifrances said:

alphastreet said:



excuse my "fandom" kicking in, but prior to this award presentation, it was said by some sources that he was going to get the millenium award and by other media outlets that it was on his birthday. After receiving the award, the winners of awards that night were listed on the mtv site, and it listed mj as winning 'artist of the millenium' and a few hours later, was taken down from what I recall. While I'm not denying that he was so out of touch with his surroundings at the time and having health issues, I really think that this was a joke planned by mtv, all for ratings. If you think about it, this happened at the very beginning of the show, at a time when the host who is usually a comedian makes jokes about celebs that year who made headlines, he WAS the punchline. If my joke theory is out of line, then maybe it was a miscommunication and his people gave him the wrong information about what he was there for that night. Remember, this was the time when he had the worst people around him he could ever have, so it comes off as a setup, whether intentional or not
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You're right my friend. I posted proof (the screenshot) in another thread here before, but it was not responded to. Here it is again. Hopefully some people will see it this time:

It was OBVIOUS sabotage. That screenshot is hardly a misunderstanding. That screenshot is from AFTER the awards ceremony. They even call his "Millennium award" "unprecedented".

But yeah, there's no doubt a lot of strange shit happened and he even admitted to being on meds in most of 2003. So yeah, that can't be disputed.
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If that screenshot is taken from AFTER the event then it is obviously just a mistake, since he didn't get that award, did he? That's why it was corrected afterwards, because it was wrong. Now, if they had announced he was getting this award BEFORE the event, then you might have a case, but they didn't.
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Reply #230 posted 03/27/08 6:56am

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midnightmover said:

marnifrances said:



You're right my friend. I posted proof (the screenshot) in another thread here before, but it was not responded to. Here it is again. Hopefully some people will see it this time:

It was OBVIOUS sabotage. That screenshot is hardly a misunderstanding. That screenshot is from AFTER the awards ceremony. They even call his "Millennium award" "unprecedented".

But yeah, there's no doubt a lot of strange shit happened and he even admitted to being on meds in most of 2003. So yeah, that can't be disputed.
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If that screenshot is taken from AFTER the event then it is obviously just a mistake, since he didn't get that award, did he? That's why it was corrected afterwards, because it was wrong. Now, if they had announced he was getting this award BEFORE the event, then you might have a case, but they didn't.
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From my understanding, they did announce he was getting an award (or said something to that effect, I could be wrong). Why would they UPDATE the site after the awards show with highlights of the awards, which included Michael Jackson's "unprecedented Millennium Award"? He was obviously told he was getting an award too, because of his speech... the whole thing is a mess, wouldn't you agree?
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Reply #231 posted 03/27/08 7:19am

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Here's another example. This time from 1992. Now, this was when Mike was still a great performer, and had only lost about 25% of his voice, but even at this stage he cannot hit the high notes that he hits on record. The high notes start at 3.00. On the album he sings incredibly when the choir comes in, but live he simply can't do that on the higher notes, so he has to resort to a weak falsetto instead. There's no way he could have gone on tour doing it like that, so he didn't. He mimed the song instead. Now, what's the excuse for this one guys? I want to hear some good, creative excuses. Don't let me down.



It's worth pointing out as well that his voice was stronger in the rehearsals than it was on the tour, because his voice always weakens on tour. Which proves why the theory of him just being out of practise is nonsense. Singing regularly on tour would easily get rid of any rustiness, but Mike's voice didn't get better on tour. It deteriorated every time.

Taken from the same rehearsal, he also struggles on the high notes here. Every time the high notes come along, he struggles. Sure enough, he decided not to sing this one live on tour either. Start getting the excuses ready guys.

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Reply #232 posted 03/27/08 7:22am

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marnifrances said:

midnightmover said:


If that screenshot is taken from AFTER the event then it is obviously just a mistake, since he didn't get that award, did he? That's why it was corrected afterwards, because it was wrong. Now, if they had announced he was getting this award BEFORE the event, then you might have a case, but they didn't.
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From my understanding, they did announce he was getting an award (or said something to that effect, I could be wrong). Why would they UPDATE the site after the awards show with highlights of the awards, which included Michael Jackson's "unprecedented Millennium Award"? He was obviously told he was getting an award too, because of his speech... the whole thing is a mess, wouldn't you agree?
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I've highlighted the two relevant bits of your post. If they'd announced he was getting an award beforehand, then you could easily post proof. But they didn't, so you can't.
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Reply #233 posted 03/27/08 8:29am

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midnightmover said:

marnifrances said:



From my understanding, they did announce he was getting an award (or said something to that effect, I could be wrong). Why would they UPDATE the site after the awards show with highlights of the awards, which included Michael Jackson's "unprecedented Millennium Award"? He was obviously told he was getting an award too, because of his speech... the whole thing is a mess, wouldn't you agree?
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I've highlighted the two relevant bits of your post. If they'd announced he was getting an award beforehand, then you could easily post proof. But they didn't, so you can't.


Still, announcing it on the site afterward- it's obvious they at least planned to give him an award!

The reason I say 'from my understanding' is that adverts for the show stated he would be given an award. If I can find that ad, I guess I'll have proof. lol

And you posted rehearsals. He does most of that singing half assed except through like 2 songs, like many singers do during rehearsals. There's clips of him during the Bad tour rehearsals where he doesn't even sing! lol Not making excuses, it's just a rehearsal, is all.

It's also fairly well known that Michael canceled Dangerous shows because of voice and throat problems. He actually had nodules on his vocal chords- a publicist said as much early on in the tour.

I can't explain his lip syncing and I don't like the fact he does it and will never know what he sounds like live until he actually sings live again.
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Reply #234 posted 03/27/08 8:42am

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marnifrances said:

midnightmover said:


I've highlighted the two relevant bits of your post. If they'd announced he was getting an award beforehand, then you could easily post proof. But they didn't, so you can't.


Still, announcing it on the site afterward- it's obvious they at least planned to give him an award!

How is that obvious? What's obvious is that one of their employees got confused by Mike's speech and made a mistake, which was soon corrected. Get back to me when you've found something from BEFORE the event, not afterwards. I wish you the best of luck in your search. wink

I can't explain his lip syncing and I don't like the fact he does it and will never know what he sounds like live until he actually sings live again.


You can't explain it, because the obvious explanation, which is staring you right in the face, is too upsetting for you to admit, even to yourself.
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Reply #235 posted 03/27/08 8:51am

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Indeed you are, son. Indeed you are. Surely you must have noticed that Mike specialized in awkward moments during this period. He was always out of synch with his surroundings. This was when he mistook a birthday cake at the MTV Awards for an Artist of the Millennium Award. lol This was when he nearly tripped up Boris Becker in Germany by going up on stage too early. This was also baby dangling time. That speech you referred to was another example of how out of it he was. Talk about over-emotional. He'd obviously been visiting the same pharmacist as Paula Abdul. lol
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I think everybody noticed the akward moments during that time.....but that moment wasn't one of them.

Sure, sure. Just a total coincidence that this awkward moment happened to Mike in the same period as all the other ones. Could've happened to anyone. And he didn't seem at all unusual in the speech either. rolleyes
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Reply #236 posted 03/27/08 10:49am

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1.Why is this thread still open? Considering how people were unhappy with all the MJ threads on the Org, one would think it would be closed by now confused

2.Well, since it's still open, how about some of ya'll sign the petition of the Bad Tour'88 on DVD? biggrin The link is in my siggy wink
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Reply #237 posted 03/27/08 10:58am

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midnightmover: yes they DID announce before the show that he's getting that millenium award and mentioning it is his birthday. I was so tuned into mj news that time and would hear this kind of stuff on the radio in summer 2002 a week prior to the show.

And whoever saved the screencap, THANK YOU!!! I wish we had proof of articles before the show saying that he's getting that award, I'm positive they were saying that he was going to receive it

about mj's voice, he's not a superhuman, he will make mistakes too and beat himself up for it after too. Good singers, no matter who they are will make mistakes time to time too, especially if they are disoriented or have not kept their voice in shape, which he may have not done before that performance
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alphastreet said:

midnightmover: yes they DID announce before the show that he's getting that millenium award and mentioning it is his birthday. I was so tuned into mj news that time and would hear this kind of stuff on the radio in summer 2002 a week prior to the show.

And whoever saved the screencap, THANK YOU!!! I wish we had proof of articles before the show saying that he's getting that award, I'm positive they were saying that he was going to receive it

about mj's voice, he's not a superhuman, he will make mistakes too and beat himself up for it after too. Good singers, no matter who they are will make mistakes time to time too, especially if they are disoriented or have not kept their voice in shape, which he may have not done before that performance
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alphastreet, it's no use lol
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Reply #239 posted 03/27/08 2:52pm

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bboy87 said:

alphastreet said:

midnightmover: yes they DID announce before the show that he's getting that millenium award and mentioning it is his birthday. I was so tuned into mj news that time and would hear this kind of stuff on the radio in summer 2002 a week prior to the show.

And whoever saved the screencap, THANK YOU!!! I wish we had proof of articles before the show saying that he's getting that award, I'm positive they were saying that he was going to receive it

about mj's voice, he's not a superhuman, he will make mistakes too and beat himself up for it after too. Good singers, no matter who they are will make mistakes time to time too, especially if they are disoriented or have not kept their voice in shape, which he may have not done before that performance
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alphastreet, it's no use lol

yeah, even I gave up. lol I don´t join the discussions as I used to.
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