since everybody is throwing their 2 cents on her voice i might as well through mine lol,

apparently what her voice needs to be in good shape is constant singing.

i remember in a radio interview she mentioned that the Charmbracelet tour was one of the main reasons her voice got in better shape, that when she got to the studio to start recording for Emancipation she started with Mine Again & Stay The Night 1st.

so i guess the 90s were incredible in that department due to sing sing when she wasn't part of the party scene, as opposed to the party animal she's become since then.

but then again, i'd rather see her struggle to get a note outta her arse than to have her lip.

VoicesCarry said:

All I'm saying is there's no way I would know that. I don't care what the song does, where it ranks, what records she breaks or doesn't break, what the label hopes for, etc. I know crappy songs go to number one quite often.

PricelessHo said:

I don’t often complain about her voice because on bad days she still sounds good and it is what it is and will never be what it was. Voices and abilities change so there’s no sense in commenting every time she doesn’t sound like it’s 1992. However, she does sounds like this is her first venture out on stage as well as a bit out of breath.

Just because she might be able to ‘turn it on’ at some point doesn’t mean she should go out and do what she’s been doing without being under the weather.

PricelessHo said:

I don’t want to hear a new song for the first time with her sounding like that. She needs to go run some scales first.

PricelessHo said:

They have to hold her cause otherwise she couldn´t walk on these shoes.

Anyway, this was not the best performance of hers neither do I like the two songs that she choose, but whatever.

Gorgeous new promo photo

so that's the Kravitz building i assume

VoicesCarry said:

The thing is that even if she passes Elvis (notice they make sure that its mentioned every time shes introduced) which she will and then if she passes the Beatles at 20 number ones, there is no comparison, and im not talking musically, im just talking the amount of time for one, the Beatles had 20 number ones in 7 years, it will take Mariah about 20 years, plus the Beatles charted about 90 singles b sides etc...and didnt have the BENEFIT of all this media, they had the radio and the ed sullivan show that was it for the most part, so its kind of like Barry Bonds breaking a record, yeah yoj broke it, but you were juiced pretty much most of your career.

she's always stated though that she's blessed for all those records but that the comparison to those legend's not valid.

Photo from Tennessee



a little info on the movie:

Brian Wright And The Waco Tragedies perform in the movie

Brian Wright and The Tragedies will be performing an original tune for a short scene in the movie. The band flew out to Nashville for a few days to shoot at the Second Fiddle on Broadway in downtown Nashville. The Tragedies will be performing the song before a Mariah Carey performance that will follow in the movie.

Brian was so kind to give some more infos for the Heroes of Mariah promo page:
" The song we performed in the movie is called Glory Hallelujah. It can be found on our new album "Bluebird" due out in early October. It's sort of a Rock and Roll, Gospel, High Energy, rave up that has the crowd in the movie dancing and clapping along in smoky Nashville bar. After our performance, Mariah's character takes the stage to sing a really beautiful ballad, that if I'm not mistaken, was written by Willie Nelson for the movie. She is accompanied by Mickey Raphael (Willie Nelson's long time harmonica player) and a guitarist, though i think the guitarist may have just been an actor. Mariah was very cool to us, very professional, and it was a pleasure to work with her, though it was only for one day.

The entire team from the writer, to the production team, to the cast, etc. were all very cool and I'm glad to be a part of it. The scene that we are in with Mariah is all I've seen of it, but it looks great and her performance is fantastic.

the song they did in the film:

http://uk.youtube.com/wat...7xWqMu8oD4

PricelessHo said:

I know that i just have an issue with it being in every introduction for her, its gotten to be very much like Michael Jackson and the King of Pop garbage every step he makes. They were announcing it on places like 106th and park and TRL, like they even know or care about Elvis or the Beatles, they had to turn on the giant APPLAUSE signs in the studio for these brain-dead kids who are in the audience to clap. So im just wondering who she thinks will care about this? It just seems to be very "please notice im passing Elvis, please notice".

PricelessHo said:

It's just sad, you know, considering what she had and how other artists DO manage to take care of their voices. I hear people saying, "Well, she's been in the business 20 years, so it's expected". No, not really. Cyndi Lauper's voice has only gotten stronger over the decades.

She started to use her whisper voice ca. Butterfly, but she was still able to perform and record in top shape ca. Glitter. It's clear to me that whatever she started doing around that period has permanently damaged her voice (and I'm betting it's medication, considering the effects many pharmaceuticals have on the vocal chords). Mariah has always been very conscientious about smoking, drinking, drugs and remedying her vocal chords, so it has to be something she needed to take. I have no confidence even in what she does in studio anymore, considering I have NEVER heard her hit that final note in We Belong Together in a live set. I've realized it's simply impossible for her to do so.
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VoicesCarry said:

She never adjusted to the changes in her voice, its that simple, she never changed the "keys" of her songs to match her vocal changes, which shows me that she doesnt know alot about writing music, which leads me to believe that alot of her early career, she was not writing music it was walter who did it all. But the thing is you have to adjust to your voice if it changes, everyones key tends to drop, Elton John had throat surgery back in 1988 and had to re-learn all his old songs and adjust the trademark "high notes" to a lower register, and he said it taught him really to be a better singer than he was early on, when he woould "just go for it". Mariah has a similar issue but never fixed things.

lastdecember said:

it's good marketing for her though, to have all those records in her resume.

lastdecember said:

I agree with this and your previous post and it is very King of Popish. I don't want her career to be reduced to record sales and a string of number ones even if the quality of her music diminishes ala MJ. But that's what folks seem to care about these days especially the kids... nothing seems to matter but the biggest, the best and most of all the rest. It's particularly irritating to those of us who only care about the music. It makes her into something other which may be happening anyway if it hasn't already.

As for the voice... it saddens me because she is the only female singer other than the veterans I'm still interested in. After Mariah, that's the end of the female artists from my formative years.

JackieBlue said:

It just troubles me, i mean i know she is going to always do the rap collabo thing, and the midtempo songs, but is there never gonna be a shake up? I remember listening to Katharine Mcphees album, and hearing a song "ordinary world" thinking, holy crap how come MC cant do a ballad like this? I remember listening to Amerie's masterpiece "because i love it" and thinking, WOW how come Mariah cant be this "sexy" on record? and than listening Hilary Duffs cd "Dignity" from last year thinking, why cant Mariah make an interesting POP record like this? Its scary that i got more out of the new Danity Kane than the new Janet and most likely Mariah put together.

lastdecember said:

Like I said before, I'm afraid she'll stay along this route unless she has a major life change. I doubt some guy is gonna start guiding her career at this point so unless something significant happens, this may be it.

Mariah Carey -- The Ultimate Diva
Some stars would be offended by being called "a diva" -- but not Mariah Carey. The pop superstar says she embraces the term. Find out what other surprising things Mimi has to say, from her divorce from control-freak Tommy Mottola to her 2001 breakdown.

Mariah Carey on Tommy Mottola, Her Breakdown, & Her Diva Status



Ah, Mariah Carey -- she's always good for some notable quotables.

The music maven has a brand new album coming out -- the aptly titled E=MC² -- and is doing lots of talking about her life. When asked by Parade mag what she thinks about being called "a diva", Mimi just lets it rip.

"They throw that word around like it’s a friggin’ Frisbee," she said of the tag. "I grew up hearing it because my mother is an opera singer… The actual definition is a ‘talented female singer.’ Definition two is a ‘difficult woman who is successful,’ I believe. So I take it as a compliment."

Mariah also opens up about her tumultuous marriage to record exec Tommy Mottola, who was rumored to have been extremely controlling during the seven years they were together.

"That part of my life always remains with me, because it was so intense," she told the magazine. "But part of that is my fault, for allowing that relationship to kind of linger – or dare I say, fester – for so long. I grew up with such dysfunction that I assumed I didn’t have a right to a happy personal life."

An what about the crazy breakdown she suffered in 2001? "My life was in such shambles, because I had allowed it to become a shambles," she said of that period.

But, like the diva she is, Mariah climbed her way to the top with her 2005 smash album, The Emancipation of Mimi, and is poised to have her 18th No. 1 song, should she top the charts with her new single "Touch My Body".

"You know what? I guess I am a diva in many ways," she said. "When it comes to certain things, yes, I can be difficult and a little bit rigid about what I want. Am I demanding? I don’t think I’m demanding enough. I think if I were more demanding, I would have felt that I had some sort of power as opposed to feeling like a pawn, which is something I had to grow out of."

I love a woman who embraces her diva status. I can only dream of being referred to as something so cool.

She's relying on rappers again isn't she?

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

theodore said:

I can't tell you how hard that makes me want to bitchslap her! I will steal any and all of her music than pay and validate those fuckers existence.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

There's a line forming.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

not at all, it's just 2 or 3 songs that feature a rapper.

raveun2thejoyfantastic said:

thanks for the read, and surly the amazing lil design you've made

PricelessHo said:

Even one line makes me want to punch her But it's only 2 or 3? How bad is it? Unlistenable or what? Seriously, I don't want to pay for her shit as long as those cretans are a part of her music. She doesn't need them.

nothing leaked as of yet so we'll see about that

ok a NEW SONG, That Chick is out on MTV.com!

http://www.mtv.com/overdr...vid=217980

damn it's only viewable for people in the US

"Bye Bye" - Mariah's Second Single Off E=MC²

In a radio interview conducted today, Mariah told the DJs that the second single from the album is a ballad she worked on with Stargate and Johnta Austin. Although Mariah did not specifically mention the title of the song, we know from previous report that the ballad they collaborated on is Bye Bye which received rave reviews from the early listening parties for the album.

Stay tuned for a downloadable audio files of the interviews.

Source: MariahDailyJournal

Part of Side Effects lyrics

Kept my tears inside cause I knew if I
Started I'd keep cryin for the rest of my
Life with you I finally built up the strength
To walk away don't regret it
But I still live with the side effects