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Thread started 03/06/08 3:51pm

raveun2thejoyf
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EROTICA.



It's Madonna's bravest & best album hands-down, IMO. worship She's an amazing music artiste. No wonder she got so f*cking p!ssed with songs like Human Nature ("I'm not your bitch, don't hang your shit on me" giggle) AFTER when the media & press was all no no no!. F*CK THE MADONNA HATERS!! finger I do think her new single "4 Minutes" is pretty crappy, tho. barf SHIT-HOP alert! cop lol



P.S: Who has heard the "Rain" Tapes?? cool
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Reply #1 posted 03/06/08 3:59pm

MikeMatronik

A MESSAGE TO ALL THE MADONNA HATERS:



And yes...my pyjama's are green...
[Edited 3/6/08 15:59pm]
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Reply #2 posted 03/06/08 4:03pm

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I've never understood the love for this album and it's appearance in people's Top 5 list.

I love the era, the attitude, the side-projects and the image, but the music and the album don't stand very strongly in their own rights. The title track, Rain and Secret Garden are stellar tracks, but nothing else on the album does anything for me - although maybe on a gay day I'd give Bye Bye Baby a thumbs-up. Dita was nasty-mouthed whore and I was hoping she would have had a bigger influence.

Brave? I think Ray Of Light is a far braver album following on from the Evita/Bedtime Stories projects.

I like the Erotica period, but for everything except the music.
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Reply #3 posted 03/06/08 4:06pm

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MikeMatronik said:

A MESSAGE TO ALL THE MADONNA HATERS:



And yes...my pyjama's are green...
[Edited 3/6/08 15:59pm]


I can't c ur pajamas, but WOW that's a nice message! smile
eye wish U were here baby, on me--
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Reply #4 posted 03/06/08 4:45pm

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Best work!!!
You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
authentic power is service- Pope Francis
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Reply #5 posted 03/07/08 1:00am

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it's a classic. it was a very important album for me. it came out when i was 15, almost 16, and coming to terms with my sexuality, and i was kind of confused and ashamed at the time. this album kind of lives in that feeling, and trascends it.

it's a very cold and detatched sound with a huge amount of heart burning through the icy soundscape.
"Half of what I say is meaningless; but I say it so that the other half may reach you." - Kahlil Gibran
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Reply #6 posted 03/07/08 3:57am

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thebumpsquad said:

I've never understood the love for this album and [its] appearance in people's Top 5 list.

Co-sign. It's very uneven IMO. The singles range from good ("Erotica," "Rain") to great ("Bad Girl," "Deeper and Deeper") and there are some good album tracks ("Waiting," "Where Life Begins"), but there are too many songs that don't resonate with me much at all ("Words," "Secret Garden," "Bye Bye Baby," "Thief of Hearts"). Bedtime Stories is solid, Ray of Light is outstanding, but Erotica is just too up and down (suite?).
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Reply #7 posted 03/07/08 10:33am

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raveun2thejoyfantastic said:



It's Madonna's bravest & best album hands-down, IMO. worship She's an amazing music artiste. No wonder she got so f*cking p!ssed with songs like Human Nature ("I'm not your bitch, don't hang your shit on me" giggle) AFTER when the media & press was all no no no!. F*CK THE MADONNA HATERS!! finger I do think her new single "4 Minutes" is pretty crappy, tho. barf SHIT-HOP alert! cop lol



P.S: Who has heard the "Rain" Tapes?? cool
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It makes perfect sense that you would have this opinion, since you have taken your screen name from one of the worst Prince albums of all time.
“The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Reply #8 posted 03/07/08 10:51am

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Dita rules.
I'm the first mammal to wear pants.
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Reply #9 posted 03/07/08 10:54am

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One of her best albums for "Bad Girl" and "Where Life Begins" alone.
NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE.
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Reply #10 posted 03/07/08 12:15pm

MikeMatronik

AlexdeParis said:

thebumpsquad said:

I've never understood the love for this album and [its] appearance in people's Top 5 list.

Co-sign. It's very uneven IMO. The singles range from good ("Erotica," "Rain") to great ("Bad Girl," "Deeper and Deeper") and there are some good album tracks ("Waiting," "Where Life Begins"), but there are too many songs that don't resonate with me much at all ("Words," "Secret Garden," "Bye Bye Baby," "Thief of Hearts"). Bedtime Stories is solid, Ray of Light is outstanding, but Erotica is just too up and down (suite?).


Bedtime Stories is the worst album she ever did
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Reply #11 posted 03/07/08 12:23pm

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thebumpsquad said:

I've never understood the love for this album and it's appearance in people's Top 5 list.

I love the era, the attitude, the side-projects and the image, but the music and the album don't stand very strongly in their own rights. The title track, Rain and Secret Garden are stellar tracks, but nothing else on the album does anything for me - although maybe on a gay day I'd give Bye Bye Baby a thumbs-up. Dita was nasty-mouthed whore and I was hoping she would have had a bigger influence.

Brave? I think Ray Of Light is a far braver album following on from the Evita/Bedtime Stories projects.

I like the Erotica period, but for everything except the music.
[Edited 3/6/08 16:04pm]


It maybe wasn't the boldest step since Madonna was heading into a darker more sexually frank in sound and lyrics with "I'm Breathless" onwards. The album isn't light pop yet keeps some camp in there combined with a sort of NY club sound and even some jazz. It could have been darker lyrically...I get that. It's still pretty incredible. I think I might skew toward "Bedtime Stories" more though since there is something great about the fluidity of that album where "Erotica" can be disjointed (and ruined by adding some shit like "Did You Do It" to the dirty version!).
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Reply #12 posted 03/07/08 12:23pm

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^Please!
She looks like a smacked-up Grandma in the artwork/era and for that alone it gets bonus points.
Sorely underrated album IMO.

**EDIT** That was for Mike above you biggrin
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Reply #13 posted 03/07/08 12:26pm

MikeMatronik

thebumpsquad said:

^Please!
She looks like a smacked-up Grandma in the artwork/era and for that alone it gets bonus points.
Sorely underrated album IMO.

**EDIT** That was for Mike above you biggrin
[Edited 3/7/08 12:24pm]


Still I bought it! I can't get enough of madonna! razz
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Reply #14 posted 03/07/08 12:26pm

GangstaFam

thebumpsquad said:

^Please!
She looks like a smacked-up Grandma in the artwork/era and for that alone it

fucking falloff !!!
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Reply #15 posted 03/07/08 12:27pm

GangstaFam

MikeMatronik said:

AlexdeParis said:


Co-sign. It's very uneven IMO. The singles range from good ("Erotica," "Rain") to great ("Bad Girl," "Deeper and Deeper") and there are some good album tracks ("Waiting," "Where Life Begins"), but there are too many songs that don't resonate with me much at all ("Words," "Secret Garden," "Bye Bye Baby," "Thief of Hearts"). Bedtime Stories is solid, Ray of Light is outstanding, but Erotica is just too up and down (suite?).


Bedtime Stories is the worst album she ever did

I thought that would've been Like A Virgin for you.
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Reply #16 posted 03/07/08 12:28pm

MikeMatronik

GangstaFam said:

MikeMatronik said:



Bedtime Stories is the worst album she ever did

I thought that would've been Like A Virgin for you.


lol

I usually hate the album people talk the most. I guess I just sick of all this BS love. lol
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Reply #17 posted 03/07/08 12:38pm

JoeTyler

While I respect what she was tryin' to do with the Sex-Erotica project, the music is cold and too-early 90's for me; I mean, the album is somewhat distant and impenetrable (the opposite of Bedtime Stories), though it's perfect for a one-night stand lol In fact, this album should be recognised as the official soundtrack for any one-night stand:lol:
Some of the lyrics are terribly tongue-in-check, and there is some clear filler or other songs where Madonna tries to be relevant with lame results (Why it's so hard, In this life, etc.)
That said, I love all the singles and other strong album tracks like Waiting, Words or Secret Garden.

Not so long ago I made my own Erotica version for the iPod:

1.Erotica
2.Fever
3.Bye bye baby
4.Deeper and deeper
5.Bad Girl
6.Waiting
7.Words
8.Rain
9.Secret Garden
10.Rescue me
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Reply #18 posted 03/07/08 12:42pm

GangstaFam

The remixes for this era were her best too.

Ah, what the hell. Any excuse to post this...

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http://pic16.picturetrail...054339.jpg

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Reply #19 posted 03/07/08 1:28pm

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EROTICA is cousin to COME. Both have a coldness to them.

I personally love how the fire/ice dichotomy exists within a single song. Like on Madonna's update of "Fever" where her fiery words are stoked within a frigid almost industrial synth landscape. And especially on "Secret Garden" where Madonna's detached delivery is in constant clash with the "fanning of the fire" effects in the instrumentation bringing about a blitheness on the surface that serves as a teasing counterpoint to the sexual urgency underneath.

EROTICA is the only album where Madonna was able to consummate the union between her words and music without relying on trends or tying herself up to genres.

EROTICA still is Madonna's boldest and strongest artistic statement.
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Reply #20 posted 03/07/08 1:29pm

GangstaFam

forkupine said:

EROTICA is cousin to COME. Both have a coldness to them.

I personally love how the fire/ice dichotomy exists within a single song. Like on Madonna's update of "Fever" where her fiery words are stoked within a frigid almost industrial synth landscape. And especially on "Secret Garden" where Madonna's detached delivery is in constant clash with the "fanning of the fire" effects in the instrumentation bringing about a blitheness on the surface that serves as a teasing counterpoint to the sexual urgency underneath.

EROTICA is the only album where Madonna was able to consummate the union between her words and music without relying on trends or tying herself up to genres.

EROTICA still is Madonna's boldest and strongest artistic statement.

yr cool
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Reply #21 posted 03/07/08 1:30pm

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^ 3 posts above shocked
eye wish U were here baby, on me--
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Reply #22 posted 03/07/08 1:51pm

MikeMatronik

raveun2thejoyfantastic said:

^ 3 posts above shocked


Gangsta has made several artwork for expanded editions of Madonna albums. The one he did for Bedtime Stories is great...
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Reply #23 posted 03/07/08 2:05pm

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forkupine said:

EROTICA is cousin to COME. Both have a coldness to them.

I personally love how the fire/ice dichotomy exists within a single song. Like on Madonna's update of "Fever" where her fiery words are stoked within a frigid almost industrial synth landscape. And especially on "Secret Garden" where Madonna's detached delivery is in constant clash with the "fanning of the fire" effects in the instrumentation bringing about a blitheness on the surface that serves as a teasing counterpoint to the sexual urgency underneath.

EROTICA is the only album where Madonna was able to consummate the union between her words and music without relying on trends or tying herself up to genres.

EROTICA still is Madonna's boldest and strongest artistic statement.

that's a great post.
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Reply #24 posted 03/07/08 2:14pm

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MikeMatronik said:

raveun2thejoyfantastic said:

^ 3 posts above shocked


Gangsta has made several artwork for expanded editions of Madonna albums. The one he did for Bedtime Stories is great...


Ooohh I would like 2 see it, PRETTY PLEASE! pray
eye wish U were here baby, on me--
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Reply #25 posted 03/07/08 2:16pm

JoeTyler

forkupine said:

EROTICA is cousin to COME. Both have a coldness to them.

I personally love how the fire/ice dichotomy exists within a single song. Like on Madonna's update of "Fever" where her fiery words are stoked within a frigid almost industrial synth landscape. And especially on "Secret Garden" where Madonna's detached delivery is in constant clash with the "fanning of the fire" effects in the instrumentation bringing about a blitheness on the surface that serves as a teasing counterpoint to the sexual urgency underneath.

EROTICA is the only album where Madonna was able to consummate the union between her words and music without relying on trends or tying herself up to genres.

EROTICA still is Madonna's boldest and strongest artistic statement.



I think you are confused, you are talking about Like a Prayer wink
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Reply #26 posted 03/07/08 2:27pm

JoeTyler

Ok, GangstaFam has started it, so... my fav Sex pics lol

The mods will be bussy lol
[NSFW Edit - Tom]

http://www.beautifulmadon...ex/037.jpg

[NSFW Edit - Tom]

http://www.beautifulmadon...ex/051.jpg

[NSFW Edit - Tom]

http://www.beautifulmadon...ex/084.jpg

[NSFW Edit - Tom]

http://www.beautifulmadon...ex/087.jpg

[NSFW Edit - Tom]

http://www.beautifulmadon...ex/098.jpg

[NSFW Edit - Tom]

http://www.beautifulmadon...ex/106.jpg

tinkerbell
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Reply #27 posted 03/07/08 2:35pm

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^I bet those pics will get snipped no no no! falloff
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Reply #28 posted 03/07/08 2:39pm

JoeTyler

raveun2thejoyfantastic said:

lockdance^Hey, ur gonna get this thread closed! WATCH OUT eek



That's the point; we'll see if the Sex pics are still as scandalous as they were in 1992...
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Reply #29 posted 03/07/08 2:48pm

horatio

fuck madonna
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