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Printablenamepeace said: InsatiableCream said: scary but true  She and Sarah could have a career like Cassandra, Jill, Erykah or Angie, if they were lucky. [Edited 3/16/08 16:34pm] Exactly! | |
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Scorpion said: Snoop Dog says: Ugly Women Don't Sell Records
He came right out and said it. jacked from Miss Info Here’s a taste of Snoop’s kooky stream of consciousness rant on women, thanks to the friends at BET.com’s Hip Hop Vs. America blog. “How many ugly women selling records? None! Only the pretty ones sell records. Beyonce, Mary J, Keyshia Cole, the ugly ones don’t sell. I ain’t gon say no names, but they don’t sell records. They just be singing their little hearts out, but they don’t get no sales, cause they ugly. Now, that’s my fault? I can see this on TV now: ‘Snoop Dogg called me, ugly.’ You beautiful on the inside, baby. What I wanna say to go on top of that, to the chocolate women, the dark-skinned women, I love ya’ll. I got a chocolate daughter at home. I always tell her chocolate is the best thing in the world….“ and then Snoop on women in hip hop videos…. “Hip-hop is not the stories. It’s not a soap opera. Hip-hop is not ‘The View.’ It’s not…’The Oprah Winfrey Show.’ Hip-hop is what it is. We have our certain views on women the way we do. It’s like Playboy. Do anybody got something to say about the way Playboy view women? They take their shirt off and show their t**ties. That’s the first way to get into Playboy. You gotta show Hugh Heffner your t**ties if you wanna get in Playboy. There’s nothing degrading about that, but at the same time, when we show women in videos, they have their clothes on. We don’t play videos on BET with women naked; we can’t get away with that. But it’s degrading what we’re doing, when in actuality, we’re giving these women a chance to shine. Now, if these women would become directors and depict women in a different light, then that would give them a different light as far as the way people view them.” ----- This ugly ass is in no position to talk about looks or talent. | |
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Janfriend said: TonyVanDam said: 
Again, it goes back the controversy of Mariah's debut album. It might have been Tommy's idea for Mariah's hair to "block" a portion of her nose. When it comes to trying to figure out anyone's racial classification, the nose never lies. Say what you will about that public fall out between Michael Jackson & Tommy Mottola. But for once, I think Michael (of all people with his own skin problem) might had a point about Tommy's views on race when we take pop marketing in consideration. Mariah said on Larry King that Michael's claims of Tommy being racist weren't too far from the tree A person doesn't necessary have to be racist in order to be guilty for trying too hard to force crossover success on anyone. Some of the ideas that Tommy Mottola had use for Mariah is about the same way of thinking Clive Davis has use for Whitney years ago. | |
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laurarichardson said: Scorpion said: Snoop Dog says: Ugly Women Don't Sell Records
He came right out and said it. jacked from Miss Info Here’s a taste of Snoop’s kooky stream of consciousness rant on women, thanks to the friends at BET.com’s Hip Hop Vs. America blog. “How many ugly women selling records? None! Only the pretty ones sell records. Beyonce, Mary J, Keyshia Cole, the ugly ones don’t sell. I ain’t gon say no names, but they don’t sell records. They just be singing their little hearts out, but they don’t get no sales, cause they ugly. Now, that’s my fault? I can see this on TV now: ‘Snoop Dogg called me, ugly.’ You beautiful on the inside, baby. What I wanna say to go on top of that, to the chocolate women, the dark-skinned women, I love ya’ll. I got a chocolate daughter at home. I always tell her chocolate is the best thing in the world….“ and then Snoop on women in hip hop videos…. “Hip-hop is not the stories. It’s not a soap opera. Hip-hop is not ‘The View.’ It’s not…’The Oprah Winfrey Show.’ Hip-hop is what it is. We have our certain views on women the way we do. It’s like Playboy. Do anybody got something to say about the way Playboy view women? They take their shirt off and show their t**ties. That’s the first way to get into Playboy. You gotta show Hugh Heffner your t**ties if you wanna get in Playboy. There’s nothing degrading about that, but at the same time, when we show women in videos, they have their clothes on. We don’t play videos on BET with women naked; we can’t get away with that. But it’s degrading what we’re doing, when in actuality, we’re giving these women a chance to shine. Now, if these women would become directors and depict women in a different light, then that would give them a different light as far as the way people view them.” ----- This ugly ass is in no position to talk about looks or talent. Why not? You seem to think he's saying "I hate ugly women and they can't have careers." He's not. He's speaking out AGAINST the stereotype of beauty over everything. WHYYYYY is that a bad thing? | |
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purplesweat said: laurarichardson said: ----- This ugly ass is in no position to talk about looks or talent. Why not? You seem to think he's saying "I hate ugly women and they can't have careers." He's not. He's speaking out AGAINST the stereotype of beauty over everything. WHYYYYY is that a bad thing? Snoop definitely is not speaking out against anything...  | |
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ThreadBare said: purplesweat said: Why not? You seem to think he's saying "I hate ugly women and they can't have careers." He's not. He's speaking out AGAINST the stereotype of beauty over everything. WHYYYYY is that a bad thing? Snoop definitely is not speaking out against anything... Then clearly you have no idea what "speaking out" is. | |
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I'd like to speak out against Snoop in muscle shirts.
Why would a dude put on a tank top when he looks like a starved bird about a second from death? 
Sexual Eruption WHOA WHOA | |
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purplesweat said: ThreadBare said: Snoop definitely is not speaking out against anything... Then clearly you have no idea what "speaking out" is. I see him decrying the hardship faced by women while contributing to that hardship. What's your definition of "speaking out against" something? We might have different meanings...  | |
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emilia1 said: MsLegs said: She writes song about giving up on recovery. How beneficial for her life. And the public watches her decline.
 Tyrone Biggums! surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years... | |
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I always knew there was a real reason why he disgusts me so.
Speaking of ugly....has the Dogg looked at himself lately? It's unfortunate that so many women throw themselves at such a pig like him. Women need to have more self esteem. [Edited 3/17/08 6:42am] | |
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namepeace said: Snoop is right. The industry cares about your ability to look good in a video, ride a nice beat with a catchy hook, and from there create multiple income streams. Rihanna will do that better than scores of more accomplished and talented singers. And then Rihanna will disappear, and the next one-named, thin-voiced vixen will take her place. That's the way it's been since Janet and Madonna first got their shine on, and it will remain that way until the audience demands more.
Ella Fitzgerald would be nothing but a backup singer today. .....but doesn't this come down 2 the public buying into this non-sense? | |
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purplesweat said: laurarichardson said: ----- This ugly ass is in no position to talk about looks or talent. Why not? You seem to think he's saying "I hate ugly women and they can't have careers." He's not. He's speaking out AGAINST the stereotype of beauty over everything. WHYYYYY is that a bad thing? ---- He is not speaking out AGAINST anything. He is saying if you are not good looking you will not make it in the industry even if you can sing. He is an ugly, no-talent bum and I can’t even figure out why he thinks his opinion matters. | |
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I don't like what he said. especially when he associated pretty with the light skinned women. then he said but the dark ones.
the only way that that can change and he is one hundred percent right is let the dark and ugly women, especially the ones who look like him, open their own businessses and sing and sell their little black dark hearts out. much love to the dark ones. it is good to know snooooop is a racist pig. who will not marry dark, but will go ahead and except his dark child cause his ugly but made her. make sure you let her read what you think about dark skinned women so she will know what to expect when she grows up. did you kiss whoopie on the view? you were shown kissing the others on tmz but not her or sherry..... nipsy | |
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He speaks the truth. It could come from Stevie Wonder. It would still be true. | |
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LoveAlive said: MendesCity said: Nah, Umbrella is a p*ssy-power song. I'm not saying it's a masterpiece of meaning, but it does have a certain pop-feminist slant--flips the script on decades of dick metaphors in popular music. [Edited 3/15/08 11:57am] its so weird how the big wigs behind the scenes think in terms of marketing music. I have always been attracted to music that challenged me or was different than what I normally listened to or heard on radio. I guess I wouldnt be the person that the marketing team would factor in as a target audience co sign. I love different. snoop always wanting to put pretty women in his vids to compensate his looks and then he has the nerve to say a woman is beautiful because of her back and front her face isn't supposed to be beauiful whether light or dark nipsy | |
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CalhounSq said: Dance said: Keyshia Cole looks like Mike Strahan with titties. That turns some people on I guess.  Something tells me if Janet wasn't knifed up y'all probably wouldn't think she was too cute either, but yea - Janet & Mariah, GORGEOUS! The rest of 'em?? BEASTS...  janet looks terrible with the knife look. nipsy | |
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Graycap23 said: namepeace said: Snoop is right. The industry cares about your ability to look good in a video, ride a nice beat with a catchy hook, and from there create multiple income streams. Rihanna will do that better than scores of more accomplished and talented singers. And then Rihanna will disappear, and the next one-named, thin-voiced vixen will take her place. That's the way it's been since Janet and Madonna first got their shine on, and it will remain that way until the audience demands more.
Ella Fitzgerald would be nothing but a backup singer today. .....but doesn't this come down 2 the public buying into this non-sense? See highlighted phrase above, I agree. But at some point the industry supply and audience demand feed upon each other. Until the next revolution comes around, we (as a whole) will continue to tolerate cheaply produced, thinly performed music. Fronting the product with beautiful women -- reincarnating Madonna and Janet tens of times over -- only extends the trend. Good night, sweet Prince | 7 June 1958 - 21 April 2016
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TonyVanDam said: Cinnamon234 said: Damn shame, but that's truth. I've never thought Mariah Carey was that great looking. She has great legs I'll give her that but would I say she's beautiful? Nope. Now I know some people think Mary is a little rough around the edges and harsh looking at times perhaps but to me she is prettier than Mariah and I've always thought she had great bone structure. 
The funny thing about Mariah though is that when she started out she looked more "ethnic". Over the years however her appearence changed drastically. [Edited 3/15/08 23:10pm] The album covers tells the story. Watch carefully: 1990 (more "ethnic")
1995 (the same, just different facial make-up) 
1996 (slow body changes began here) 
1998 
1999 
2000 
Basically, Mariah was "ethnic" looking for about 6 years within her career. I think it was in 1996-97 that some people started to notice a change. it's the kniiffe the kniiiife the kniiiiife. I never did get into those cheek implants that ladies use to keep wrinkles away either. nipsy | |
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BlaqueKnight said: He speaks the truth. It could come from Stevie Wonder. It would still be true.
Truth reigns supreme. Nuff said. Case Closed. | |
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TonyVanDam said: Janfriend said: Mariah said on Larry King that Michael's claims of Tommy being racist weren't too far from the tree A person doesn't necessary have to be racist in order to be guilty for trying too hard to force crossover success on anyone. Some of the ideas that Tommy Mottola had use for Mariah is about the same way of thinking Clive Davis has use for Whitney years ago. Who said anything about forcing crossover success? She was talking about him personally, his personal feelings, not business | |
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Janfriend said: TonyVanDam said: A person doesn't necessary have to be racist in order to be guilty for trying too hard to force crossover success on anyone. Some of the ideas that Tommy Mottola had use for Mariah is about the same way of thinking Clive Davis has use for Whitney years ago. Who said anything about forcing crossover success? She was talking about him personally, his personal feelings, not business I took it as personally & professionally speaking. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: He speaks the truth. It could come from Stevie Wonder. It would still be true.
But it's Snoop! Shit hop! OMG! Snoop is ugly! Even tho I don't care about looks! It's all about talent but FUCK Snoop is uuuugly! Ew! STFU Snoop, your opinion is NULL because you're a rapper and you make shit hop. Anyone love Sensual Seduction? Woooo!  | |
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ok, i pose this question -
who are the ugly women out there that should be selling records list them, give them some exposure | |
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oh, and i have to say i don't like looking at some of these ugly mugs
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Men's looks matter to a much lesser extent in American society as well as in the music business. Its more about the $$$. "Fiddy Cent" gets much love and he looks like Grape Ape in the face. Looks are a bonus for men in the biz but pretty much mandatory these days for women seeking pop success. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: "Fiddy Cent" gets much love and he looks like Grape Ape in the face.
Gorilla unit is a befitting name in so many ways. | |
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MsLegs said: BlaqueKnight said: "Fiddy Cent" gets much love and he looks like Grape Ape in the face.
Gorilla unit is a befitting name in so many ways. 
Ain't that the truth! | |
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BlaqueKnight said: . Looks are a bonus for men in the biz
True. Image is everything. Somethings are certain artist are their trademark look like the following: the way the gentlemen wears his suit, hair(afro), hat( stetson) and the shoes he wears and etc. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: MsLegs said: Gorilla unit is a befitting name in so many ways.
Ain't that the truth! You know Legs got to tell like it tis my Brotha!  | |
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