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LoveAlive said: Militant said: you still have to make music thats marketable so whats the determination on whats marketable and what isnt? Something that's catchy and appeals to the most amount of people across genres. Like Umbrella. |
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Militant said: LoveAlive said: so whats the determination on whats marketable and what isnt? Something that's catchy and appeals to the most amount of people across genres. Like Umbrella. basically music about little of nothing | |
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LoveAlive said: Militant said: Something that's catchy and appeals to the most amount of people across genres. Like Umbrella. basically music about little of nothing Nah, Umbrella is a p*ssy-power song. I'm not saying it's a masterpiece of meaning, but it does have a certain pop-feminist slant--flips the script on decades of dick metaphors in popular music. [Edited 3/15/08 11:57am] | |
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fcukthepolice said: Timmy84 said: He's the exception. He's just dumb no really; have you heard his lyrics? They are shit Good point. | |
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MendesCity said: LoveAlive said: basically music about little of nothing Nah, Umbrella is a p*ssy-power song. I'm not saying it's a masterpiece of meaning, but it does have a certain pop-feminist slant--flips the script on decades of dick metaphors in popular music. [Edited 3/15/08 11:57am] its so weird how the big wigs behind the scenes think in terms of marketing music. I have always been attracted to music that challenged me or was different than what I normally listened to or heard on radio. I guess I wouldnt be the person that the marketing team would factor in as a target audience | |
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LoveAlive said: MendesCity said: Nah, Umbrella is a p*ssy-power song. I'm not saying it's a masterpiece of meaning, but it does have a certain pop-feminist slant--flips the script on decades of dick metaphors in popular music. [Edited 3/15/08 11:57am] its so weird how the big wigs behind the scenes think in terms of marketing music. I have always been attracted to music that challenged me or was different than what I normally listened to or heard on radio. I guess I wouldnt be the person that the marketing team would factor in as a target audience Count me in too. I know they'd turn me down too since I'm not entertained by who they think will be in my peer group, lol. | |
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snoop was so ugly with his white outfit in the video, he looked like a dried up old woman | |
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Silly me! I thought sex sold records! i.e. fucking for tracks, fucking for promotion, etc. | |
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SexyBeautifulOne said: Silly me! I thought sex sold records! i.e. fucking for tracks, fucking for promotion, etc.
men will do ANYTHING for some ass. I mean that literally; they will kill, steal, cheat and lie. | |
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Wait, Keyshia Cole and Mary J are pretty? LOL
Mariah is pretty, Janet is pretty. Those 2? No. | |
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As bluntly as he put it (no pun intended), he is correct. When was the last time we saw an actual UNATTRACTIVE female in pop music that didn't come from out of left field? You have to excuse people who come from American Idol or other "contest shows" because they aren't bred and hand picked by record labels. The American pop music market demands that the women be acceptably slightly above average to beautiful in terms of looks. Women are usually at least "t.v. pretty". She doesn't have to be a Miss Universe winner but she has to be acceptable enough to look like she belongs on television. We've had many discussions about this very thing on the org; don't hate the message just because Snoop Dogg said it. Its still the truth. Plain pretty = accepted. Plain = rejected. The entertainment business has always been superficial but since Mtv and the demand for music videos has increased, the superficiality has increased also. There are a few exceptions but there are still strict guidelines that labels follow. They want maximum earning potential and studies have shown that pretty people sell more so....that's how they play it. | |
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He didn't lie and as much as folks would want to carry on with the holier-than-thou attitude, folks in here tear down people's looks in a mug,,,so the whole double standard in this thread seems kinda funny to me. | |
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Nick715 said: Wait, Keyshia Cole pretty? LOL
Keyshia Cole looks like Mike Strahan with titties. That turns some people on I guess. | |
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Dance said: Nick715 said: Wait, Keyshia Cole pretty? LOL
Keyshia Cole looks like Mike Strahan with titties. That turns some people on I guess. Something tells me if Janet wasn't knifed up y'all probably wouldn't think she was too cute either, but yea - Janet & Mariah, GORGEOUS! The rest of 'em?? BEASTS... | |
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And somehow he's right... | |
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CalhounSq said: Dance said: Keyshia Cole looks like Mike Strahan with titties. That turns some people on I guess. Something tells me if Janet wasn't knifed up y'all probably wouldn't think she was too cute either, but yea - Janet & Mariah, GORGEOUS! The rest of 'em?? BEASTS... Never called Janet or Marierz gorgeous[/b] [Edited 3/15/08 15:49pm] | |
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Memo to Snoop: Ugly men don't sell records, either, because your new one is flopping. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: As bluntly as he put it (no pun intended), he is correct. When was the last time we saw an actual UNATTRACTIVE female in pop music that didn't come from out of left field? You have to excuse people who come from American Idol or other "contest shows" because they aren't bred and hand picked by record labels. The American pop music market demands that the women be acceptably slightly above average to beautiful in terms of looks. Women are usually at least "t.v. pretty". She doesn't have to be a Miss Universe winner but she has to be acceptable enough to look like she belongs on television. We've had many discussions about this very thing on the org; don't hate the message just because Snoop Dogg said it. Its still the truth. Plain pretty = accepted. Plain = rejected. The entertainment business has always been superficial but since Mtv and the demand for music videos has increased, the superficiality has increased also. There are a few exceptions but there are still strict guidelines that labels follow. They want maximum earning potential and studies have shown that pretty people sell more so....that's how they play it.
ITA People are caught up on the messenger and his delivery, but Snoop is speaking nothing but the truth. [Edited 3/15/08 16:14pm] | |
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Dance said: CalhounSq said: Something tells me if Janet wasn't knifed up y'all probably wouldn't think she was too cute either, but yea - Janet & Mariah, GORGEOUS! The rest of 'em?? BEASTS... Never called Janet or Marierz gorgeous True, Nick did. I should have scrolled up & quoted him only. | |
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Dance said: Nick715 said: Wait, Keyshia Cole pretty? LOL
Keyshia Cole looks like Mike Strahan with titties. That turns some people on I guess. well damn she does not lol .. girl isnt that bad lol | |
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BlaqueKnight said: As bluntly as he put it (no pun intended), he is correct. When was the last time we saw an actual UNATTRACTIVE female in pop music that didn't come from out of left field? You have to excuse people who come from American Idol or other "contest shows" because they aren't bred and hand picked by record labels. The American pop music market demands that the women be acceptably slightly above average to beautiful in terms of looks. Women are usually at least "t.v. pretty". She doesn't have to be a Miss Universe winner but she has to be acceptable enough to look like she belongs on television. We've had many discussions about this very thing on the org; don't hate the message just because Snoop Dogg said it. Its still the truth. Plain pretty = accepted. Plain = rejected. The entertainment business has always been superficial but since Mtv and the demand for music videos has increased, the superficiality has increased also. There are a few exceptions but there are still strict guidelines that labels follow. They want maximum earning potential and studies have shown that pretty people sell more so....that's how they play it.
Case Closed. | |
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The writing on this new Snoop cd may be some of the laziest, uninspired mess of all time. | |
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Flowerz said: Dance said: Keyshia Cole looks like Mike Strahan with titties. That turns some people on I guess. well damn she does not lol .. girl isnt that bad lol Come on | |
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Dance said: Flowerz said: well damn she does not lol .. girl isnt that bad lol Come on for once, i agree with u | |
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Dance said: Flowerz said: well damn she does not lol .. girl isnt that bad lol Come on see? .. this is why i thought you, yourself was a female before.. cause you are really hard on alot of nice looking females.. you just have something against lighter skin folks (and i protest) .. Keyshia is a nice looking girl, im not a fan of her music, but i dont think she's non-attractive.. ... (oh usually other jealous females hate on other females lol.. is why i thought u were one lol ..my bad ) [Edited 3/15/08 20:32pm] | |
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Flowerz said: Dance said: Come on see? .. this is why i thought you, yourself was a female before.. cause you are really hard on alot of nice looking females.. you just have something against lighter skin folks (and i protest) .. Keyshia is a nice looking girl, im not a fan of her music, but i dont think she's non-attractive.. Dance said: No.
Tboz early in the morning with her hair fucked up looks ten times better than that non-singin augmented ghetto clown. http://prince.org/msg/8/257400 Dance said: Although I don't know if I'd "do" them...
Regina King Rachael Ray Khandi Alexander Debra Wilson The others well, I'll never admit that shit. [Edited 2/2/08 16:07pm] http://prince.org/msg/100/259968?pg=1 Should I continue...? | |
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I don't think anyone is disagreeing with Snoop's observation about pretty women being valued way more highly by the music industry, as far as artists go.
My quibble is that Snoop is someone who has made exploiting women the cornerstone of his videos and, by extension, a significant part of his career. My problem wasn't with his repeating an undeniable truth in the industry (if not the world). It was with his weak excuses for exploiting women and for his suggestion that he doesn't. | |
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Dance said:[quote] Flowerz said: http://prince.org/msg/8/257400 Dance said: Although I don't know if I'd "do" them...
Regina King Rachael Ray Khandi Alexander Debra Wilson The others well, I'll never admit that shit. [Edited 2/2/08 16:07pm] http://prince.org/msg/100/259968?pg=1 Should I continue...? oh.. i said that cause of the thread (im looking for now).. with all those georgous chicks.. was one of those.. 'Who will be a good match for Prince?" threads (something like that).. alot of chicks in bikini's .. alot of nice looking girls.. Pussy Cat Doll chick (dunno her name), a bunch of them.. you trashed them lol.. .. and the girl from SHOE video.. you had a field day with her lol (saying she's trash lol) .. | |
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Flowerz said: oh.. i said that cause of the thread (im looking for now).. with all those georgous chicks.. was one of those.. 'Who will be a good match for Prince?" threads (something like that).. alot of chicks in bikini's .. alot of nice looking girls.. Pussy Cat Doll chick (dunno her name), a bunch of them.. you trashed them lol.. .. and the girl from SHOE video.. you had a field day with her lol (saying she's trash lol) ..
I trashed a porn star. | |
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