I believe one thing that works against the concept album is jazz - I've always thought of this music as meandering by nature. I understand it more now that I'm old enough to, however, with jazz, you play what comes out of you - it was the first "freestyle" music, yes? And rap does that, too. But there's a thin line between freestyle and audio/verbal diahrrea. This doesn't mean that I don't like these music forms. This means that I feel they have a higher degree of difficulty when the concept album is created. As an aside, I feel orchestral/classical music can take on this effect, too, but that's just me.
That said, I think it comes down to those of us who know and appreciate the concept album (especially if you're an artist) to teach/pass this down to those who are willing to listen. As it is, the concept album can only be done by a small percentage of artists and musicians. But even as music listeners, we know what the elements of a concept album are. If we don't teach younger generations, then the art form will die with us, and that is a worse destroyer than any technical aspect could be. motownlover said: the question is l is listening to an album start to finish dead. and i say yes for todays generation it is. if they buy a cd they only listen to the singles and they dont give the other tracks half a chance.. albums have become to long imo , i wish they would still last 10 songs | |
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Year Zero and The World Has Made Me The Man Of My Dreams are the last great concept album I have in my collections.
paisleypark4 said: Erykas last album was concept like
But really hasnt been since The Rainbow Children 4 me | |
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lastdecember said: Graycap23 said: U don't have 2 go back that far. The Rainbow Children was a concept project. No i was going back to show how "concept albums" were main stream, Prince "rainbow children" was not pushed like these records i mentioned. I dig..... | |
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MikeMatronik said: TonyVanDam said: Rhythm Nation 1814 has 12 songs.
Faith has 9 songs on vinyl. The CD format has 11 songs. Emancipation has 32 tracks on cd... Emancipation has 32 track on cassette... I win! CORRECTION: Although Emancipation was (and still is) a very good Prince concept album, it wasn't perfect. None of the those songs hit the Billboard (USA or UK) Hot 100 Singles Charts.....if it crossover from the hip-hop/r&b charts at all. With that said..... All Eyez on Me has 27 songs. The first ever double album in the history of the Rap genre (never mind it was a concept album), sold 9 million copies when 2pac was alive. Since 2pac death, it hit the 12 million+ copies. [Edited 3/12/08 19:20pm] | |
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Empress said: Dead? Not for me. I'm very selective when buying music so 99% of the time I listen to the album from start to finish and I love reading the liner notes too. I seldom download anything. Rarely, in fact.
Call me old-fashoined, but going to a record store and buying cd is still exciting for me and when I listen to my cd's I listen all the way through! I'm with you 100 percent!!! | |
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coltrane3 said: It's definitely not dead, but artsits can, if they want to, ignore it. With the download age, the focus can really be on singles. That said, there are still lots of artists who want to and do put out cohesive albums.
The Beatles really cememted the album era, which wasn't always the norm My mom, who grew up in the 50 and 60s, always bought 45 singles when she was in junior high and most high school. Se didn't buy full albums until later. The one thing I can't stand about many modern full albums is that they are SO long, filled with 16 songs, an intro, and "outro", 2 skits, and 6 interludes. Make it short (relatively), make it sweet, and then in a year give me another album. Not 20 songs and no album for five years. Hit & Quit it like James Brown groove. Nuff Said. Case Closed. | |
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TonyVanDam said: MikeMatronik said: Emancipation has 32 tracks on cd... Emancipation has 32 track on cassette... I win! CORRECTION: Although Emancipation was (and still is) a very good Prince concept album, it wasn't perfect. None of the those songs hit the Billboard (USA or UK) Hot 100 Singles Charts.....if it crossover from the hip-hop/r&b charts at all. With that said..... All Eyez on Me has 27 songs. The first ever double album in the history of the Rap genre (never mind it was a concept album), sold 9 million copies when 2pac was alive. Since 2pac death, it hit the 12 million+ copies. [Edited 3/12/08 19:20pm] Still...the girl on your avatar is HOT! | |
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TonyVanDam said: All Eyez on Me ... The first ever double album in the history of the Rap genre
Hate to interrupt your revisionist 2pac lovefest but... | |
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TANKAEFC said: The concept album is not dead, it's just not something that many artists know how to tackle anymore, and for sure very few artists that have originated in this decade. With the whole "slammin' single" TRAVESTY that's bogged down radio, well...
Agreed 100%. btw.... The new Gnarls album is very much a concept album. Later Cause tomorrow is taking too long
and yesterday's too far away and the reality that you believe in begins to bind. | |
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Cinnie said: TonyVanDam said: All Eyez on Me ... The first ever double album in the history of the Rap genre
Hate to interrupt your revisionist 2pac lovefest but... Hey, wait a minute. That whole album was only one disc as a CD format. All Eyez On Me was 2 discs! | |
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MikeMatronik said: TonyVanDam said: CORRECTION: Although Emancipation was (and still is) a very good Prince concept album, it wasn't perfect. None of the those songs hit the Billboard (USA or UK) Hot 100 Singles Charts.....if it crossover from the hip-hop/r&b charts at all. With that said..... All Eyez on Me has 27 songs. The first ever double album in the history of the Rap genre (never mind it was a concept album), sold 9 million copies when 2pac was alive. Since 2pac death, it hit the 12 million+ copies. [Edited 3/12/08 19:20pm] Still...the girl on your avatar is HOT! All credit goes to Aisleyne. [Edited 3/14/08 19:25pm] | |
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TonyVanDam said: Cinnie said: Hate to interrupt your revisionist 2pac lovefest but... Hey, wait a minute. That whole album was only one disc as a CD format. All Eyez On Me was 2 discs! You said "FIRST DOUBLE ALBUM EVER IN RAP" and that was WRONG. Besides, they had to remove one of the tracks to make "He's The DJ..." fit on one CD. | |
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NDRU said: There's always been album artists and singles artists--well, since the 60's at least.
Exactly. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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Side 2 of Kate Bush "Aerial"??? "There is no such thing in life as normal..." | |
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The album is dead. Long live the album!
Well, actually, in reality the album format was and is non-existant for about 90% of all music artists out today. For them, the album is really just a container to house their collection of singles and filler tracks. As for the remaining 10%, most of those people don't have a particular concept or theme, but they do have a sense of rhythm and pacing which causes them to sequence their songs on the album in a certain way so that the listener is drawn in and hears the whole album. For example, Bruce Springsteen's "Born In The USA" isn't a concept album per se, but the music does have a rhythmic and melodic element which makes one want to listen to the entire album in one sitting. Same with Michael Jackson's "Thriller". And of course, you still have the grand concept albums like Radiohead's "OK Computer" and "Kid A", as well as Green Day's "American Idiot". Granted, these albums became more prevalent in the late 1960's, the whole 1970's, and through the mid-1980's up through Paul Simon's "Graceland". The CD format, however, made the record companies want to use the whole 74 minutes of the CD storage capacity, so that made a lot of concept albums look bloated and overdone, thereby making it go out of fashion. | |
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