sassybritches said:

HAHAHA give me a break

It has nothing to do with promotion... In 2006, she was everywhere... EVERYWHERE...

And a tour doesn't promote a CD anymore since the MTV era...

Erykah Badu with far less promotion is selling better, Janet has a big housename in the music she nowhere near Janet an she's still

Even if she doesn't want to, the national media will always talk about her...

Janet fans need to realize that all the blame is on her, but of course it's too difficult to admit it...

The whole Discipline project is a failure, and I PRTDICTED THAT MONTHS AGO

krayzie said:

You're great and all, but maybe it's time you get over yourself.

VinnyM27 said:

this person is a highschool kid trying to get a reaction out of people....

its sad that artist like janet get attacked... or bashed.. when really she is very humble, sweet, and fun... unlike other celebs who are self-center and attention seekers...

Face it, folks this part of Janet's career is starting to fade. It happens

krayzie said:

is Erykah Badu really doing that well? I don't think her album is outselling Janet.

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But I actually thought Janet promoted this album a lot better than the last three. Wasn’t she on several TV shows: GMA, Tyra, Ellen, Larry King among them? Wasn’t she also on 106 &Park? Then she had MTV commercials and visited several radio stations and did magazine covers wearing clothing.

JackieBlue said:

You know what? It just might be time for Janet to do something different.She should go ahead and do the tour and then next year,do something totally new and unexpected...

***A rock album? A loud,hard,defiant,take-no-prisoners rock album where she finally lets her hair down and kicks some ass!!
***A freaky movie role where she plays a killer?
***A Broadway role?


you know....a total re-invention! I think,in many ways,the public is just tired of what Janet is offering right now.Every longtime artist reaches this point.That's when it's time to do something new.Flip the script.Give them a reason to continue paying attention to you.

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SoulAlive said:

I like the Badu album, but I think that's a bullshit claim.

JackieBlue said:

she does all those shows with EVERY album.... with the exception of MTV.. but who really watches MTV any more...

radio DJ's are just not playing janet's song... and even when people request.. they turn them down... DO YOU REALLY think people are requesting mariah TMB???

NO... because the DJ's are playing it like crazy.. cause they want to....
its up to radio's to help promote the songs.. and of course when you listen to the radio and hear the song a million times you are going to "like it"...

I feel bad for janet.. but not that bad.. because she should have NEVER did the superbowl incident...

I'm going to be surprised if she tours. I have this feeling she won't because she isn't going to be up for it due to a variety of reasons.



Maybe Janet should seriously consider just going into acting full-time?

Isel said:

I don't really blame janet for not touring... if you haven't noticed.... go to celebrity websites and listen to the radio and all you hear about janet is negativity... so she is probably doubting herself...

but really its her fault.. she should have never behaved inappropriately.. foolishly and pulled her boob out.... she kind of deserves what she gets.... when you do things like that.. PLUS.. she is still singing about sex and have explicit lyrics... so that doesn't even give people a chance to forget about the SB....

TotalAlisa said:

Hey.. this is a cool show that's going to be on tonight on Bravo: Step It Up and Dance.

http://www.bravotv.com/St.../index.php

Jamie King, Jerry Mithcell, among others are going to be featured on this show. I'm not sure if any of Janet's dancers or former dancers will be on, but maybe...

As far as Janet.. I don't know what to say.. I just think it's a combination of factors. I really don't think it's the Super Bowl so much because that was so long ago, but for sure it's a possibility because I just think start-out being very critical of her. At the same time, I just don't think her music is as "competitive," for lack of a better word. Don't get me wrong, I liked Discipline, but I just don't think the cd made an impact. The one criticism is that I really think her voice has gotten weaker since Damita Jo, and I just don't think she can carry it with her dancing anymore..

I really think a lot of people--including but not limited to some fans--want to see more growth from Janet as an artist. Now.. for sure, she doesn't HAVE to oblige anyone. She can do what she wants--obviously. But for some reason, in the music business she seems to be a bit. "stuck." That's why I think moving completely to acting for a couple of years might help her because she would be more challenge possibly?? I don't know really.

I really don't know what would be the best thing for her to do..

I say MOVIES or better yet BROADWAY! Appearing on Broadway would really force her to project more.. But music.. no.. not until she really has something to say..
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Isel said:

ITS DEFINITELY NOT THE MUSIC... well technically it is... BUT... janet makes dance/pop music.. which is NOT "in" right now... IF she released diciplined 2000-2004.. it would have been a smash hit because that was when pop/dance was still in.. NOW hip-hop and rnb is in.. and janet is not really make the kind of music that people want to hear..

but as far as her music.. its GREAT POP/DANCE music which a love and thats my favorite genre of music.. the majority of Americans are in the hip-hop
so OF COURSE HER SONGS WONT' DO WELL.. they are NOT like soldier boy or any of that type...

janet's last cd has a few good songs... and i believe her songs are NOT mainstream... but you base quality music on whether is mainstream or not?????

especially since all the stuff they play on the radio is pretty much crap. .and any one can reach number 1....

I think you guys are looking too deep into this. I believe Janet feels she has nothing to prove to anyone, anymore. She has made her mark in the music industry, pushed herself up to the level of icon and that's all there is to it. She wanted to do a project without Jimmy and Terry for a change and she accomplished that and she's going to tour when she feels like it, when she's ready.

she'll be onstage in an empty auditorium if she keeps on pissing her fans off

Me, being the run-out-and-buy-a-Janet-album the minute it becomes available type of fan is shocked by how bad 20 YO and Discipline are. I made it a point to go out and buy her albums with no hesistation because I JUST KNEW I was going to love EVERY SINGLE SONG on the album. WHY is Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis NOT ON HER ALBUMS anymore?? What the hell man? I mean, that formula Janet-Jimmy-Terry YES! YES! YES! For example, the DJ album, the ONLY SONGS I loved as well as EVERYONE of my friends were the songs composed by JJ and TL...it's like a slap in the face: "Since Im Janet, Im gonna switch up the very formula that has made me hit after hit after hit and my fans are gonna love it because I'll throw in a dance rountine they may have seen before." SHE AINT EVEN TRYING no more, it's SO NOT RIGHT. "Discipline" is the 1st Janet Jackson album I didnt buy. Her career wouldnt be on the brink if she hadnt switched production and songwriters!!!

Well i bought discipline, but not 20YO, i really like 80% of it.

Altho i can see why Janet's career is..



I would go see janet "live".

You know I miss the feeling of going out and buying an album and memorizing all the songs by the 4th day you had it. I used to look forward to that with a Janet Jackson album and now thats gone. I thought I would never see the day. Well, at least not like this. I figured she would go out on a high note.

Im taking this so hard because I grew up to Janet's music...so her songs are like the soundtrack of my life to some degree. And even if she feels she is an ICON and doesnt have nothing to prove thats fine because she is an ICON but if she's to be an ICON she shouldnt demote her stylings of music, she should be excellent EVERY TIME an album drops. Not that Darkchild, JD and various other producers who have worked with her arent talented, it just seems like their stylings of production has not been successful with Janet. IT just dont ADD UP!

CherrieMoonKisses said:

Perhaps Janet was only as good as those around her and when they peaked,she peaked. I also think that NO ONE can be excellent all the time. Everyone's career tapers off at some point in time. How can you expect an artist to be excellent forever? That is just not realistic and humanely possible.

wonder505 said:

Im talking excellent like we can still feel good about the music they drop. It wouldnt be quite like the music they dropped when they were at the top but it will still make us dance and smile and reminisce about the times they were HOTT. Like my other favorite Ms. Chaka Khan. Her latest album is G R E A T...who is producing on it? JJ and TL. Although she and Janet arent in the same bracket of ICON, my point is that Chaka Khan isnt at the top of her game but she can still release a SLAMMING album that will make us stop in our tracks and be like "She still got it!" No one is saying that about Janet right now and it's heart breaking to me personally.
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CherrieMoonKisses said:

janet just doesn't seem hungry for it anymore

ehuffnsd said:

i have to agree.. i know she got sick.. but she is still not promoting or doing anything... i wish if she is not going to put her heart into music.. if she could at least have some kids

ehuffnsd said:

I agree. It's like she's going through the motions. I understand about her being sick, but it's more than that. I think Janet NEEDS to have affirmation--particularly for a project like this one, where she didn't even "write" the material? It's fine if she's just having some fun.. whatever, and doesn't need to prove anything. I just think she may have outgrown the "pop" music industry. And she's not a music artist like Prince or Bonnie Raitt, for example, living and breathing music.

I watched DWTS, and Kylie has already sold a million worldwide, and Janet has only sold half a million? It seems it's only her die-hard fans buying.

I'm not "into" numbers personally, but unfortunately, I guess for an artist's of Janet's caliber, the poor sales reflect a decline in her popularity which is a shame. I think Discipline is a good cd. I was really psyched about this era. And now it seems.. I just don't know what to think..
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Isel said:

Maddy & Mariah are in the top 5.


SOMEWHERE














OUT THERE
























JANET IS SCREAMING



























IS IT BECAUZZZ IM BLACK!!!??!?!!?

paisleypark4 said:

Do you really think that... I believe it has more to do with superbowl and her being a jackson.. michael jackson's sister...


and mariah is mixed with black..... although at first glance you would not think so

paisleypark4 said:

Might have more to do with her being a Jackson. Sadly people seem tired of them.

TotalAlisa said:

She never recovered from "Superboob" and maybe never will fully. Let's not scream about "Janet's songs aren't good anymore". "Feedback" easily kicks the ass of both "4 Mintues" (and I'm a big Madonna fan) and "Touch My Body" (which I don't totally hate, either even though I'm not a Mariah fan).

VinnyM27 said:

Yeah Feedback and Rock With you should be #1 & #2

VinnyM27 said:

she hasn't let the focus go off the superboob. whem Madonna was called oversexed on Erotica she released Bedtime Stories and managed to stay covered through the first video at least, and took the focus off of sex.

The Mariah and Janet comparisons are pretty immature...two totally diff artist, one is a vocalist and the other is an entertainer.

I think American pop culture has pretty much blacklisted the Jacksons family....just a case of too much bad publicity. Also, some of her youinger fans who are now in their 30's/40's maybe into diff genres of music, so that leaves the teenagers of current pop culture who would probably go with Ciara, Rihanna, or whomever is doing pop dance music. Also, many people look at artist who were hot in the 80's as old and past their prime. All of the popular radio stations seem to feed into this idealogy. For example, the name of the site we are on for starters....I was pretty sure, the 1 u want 2 see, was going to be a pop hit for Prince and I was sure, the Greatest X eva eva, eva...would be a commercial hit for Janet as well. But shit, I don't know a damn thing anymore. What if Rihanna or Jessica Simpson sings - The Greatest Ex, would it have received airplay then?

It's like LL Cool J's beef with def jam, once the radio stations deem you to be not cool anymore, or not in demand or hot, they control your airplay and dictate to the younger audience who will be hot. I'm suprised Jermaine's popular influence didnt give additional airplay for Janet? I would have figured at least in Atlanta he could have goten Janet mucho airplay?...doesn't Jay Z pay stations to play his music?...I don't know it just seems like nobody wants Janet to be popular anymore...except us, her die hard fans typing on this thread and her other fan sites.

Final suggestion and realization: Janet, give it up, forget about being a pop star, you came out with a very solid CD and no one seems to give a fuck about it, what does that tell you?.....focus on acting or just doing the music you love to do from your heart, forget about getting all of these hot producers, just do shit for your fans if u stil want to stay in the game. Go back to Jimmy Jam and Terry and just give us some vintage Janet shit for your die hard fans.

That's my final long ass thought on this long ass post, lol.