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Reply #30 posted 03/12/08 8:50am

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no offense but how old are you? aren't you a little too old to be worrying about a album flopping seriously , I expect to find this sorta crap on pulse or atrl.net . aka the trl audience wink
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Reply #31 posted 03/12/08 9:04am

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shortstuff45220 said:

no offense but how old are you? aren't you a little too old to be worrying about a album flopping seriously , I expect to find this sorta crap on pulse or atrl.net . aka the trl audience wink
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I know right, you enjoy the music. You let Janet, her accountants, IDJ care or worry about the rest because all this means is money in their pocket. 'YOU' bought your copy, go and do what you like with it, why standing around waiting to see who else buys it too, like it makes a difference to your listening pleasure.

Rock wit u and that video? like its a good song and all, but anyone could tell that song was not going to be big, its a great album track. (Were they thinking Together Again?)
Rollercoaster should have been first single, hopefully LUV is at least a minor hit, they can then hit them with 'Rollercoaster'
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Reply #32 posted 03/12/08 9:43am

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Janet Jackson's "Discipline" (Island Def Jam), last week's Billboard 200 topper, falls 1-3 with 57,000,a 68% drop.
(Source: Billboard.com, March 12)
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Reply #33 posted 03/12/08 9:45am

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So is this the reason for the "Flu"?

drop out of sight?

just say fuck it?

I mean I'm not a janet fan these days, i did like her early stuff, but this seems odd.

Lord if madonna is giving JT shots of B12 in the ass, Id think that janet could get the some better drugs.



lol but very true. I hope she's not giving up. I was looking forward to her appearance on SNL. She's gotta keep her health up if she's gonna tour globally.

A few of the strong songs are considered dance tracks and while not as hard as true club tracks, their definitely a bit more than what radio likes to play. It seems alot of the kids don't care for those type of cuts. They just want strict R&B. I wonder if that combined with the mellow mid-tempos made some folks avoid buying.
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Reply #34 posted 03/12/08 9:46am

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Copycat said:

Janet Jackson's "Discipline" (Island Def Jam), last week's Billboard 200 topper, falls 1-3 with 57,000,a 68% drop.
(Source: Billboard.com, March 12)




Is this not why the thread was started ?
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Reply #35 posted 03/12/08 10:17am

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The failure of this album has nothing to do with single choices. People are just tired of Janet Jackson. The younger generation particularly has no interest in her. Unfortunately, it's the younger generation she's aiming at by making kiddie music. I know you guys love new tracks like "Luv" and "Rock With You", but the fact is they are childish. At this point she should be making music for grown-ups, not children.
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Reply #36 posted 03/12/08 10:29am

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midnightmover said:

The failure of this album has nothing to do with single choices. People are just tired of Janet Jackson. The younger generation particularly has no interest in her. Unfortunately, it's the younger generation she's aiming at by making kiddie music. I know you guys love new tracks like "Luv" and "Rock With You", but the fact is they are childish. At this point she should be making music for grown-ups, not children.


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Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Reply #37 posted 03/12/08 11:40am

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TotalAlisa said:

VinnyM27 said:

I love Janet and this CD but based on this drop and frankly the first week (come on people...I know sales dipped but come on!), this isn't the hit she needed and that Island expected yet. She really needs big singles that stay on the charts in order to boost the albums. Maybe just one big one. "Feedback" is great but "Rock With U" needs to kill....it could but is radio playing it? Seems like she is getting so much love for "Luv" on R&B radio but pop radio doesn't care about her newest single(s).

first of all I don't care if janet sells... she said herself it doesnt matter...

but i would NOT wish failure.. LIKE THAT KRAZY PERSON..

anyways... she hasn't done enough promotion... just promoting your album the week it comes out is NOT enough...

she could have done more.. but oh well..


I always think of it as not just being a cheerleader for the artist but expecting more stuff as a result. If the album is a success than it will motivate the label to push more singles and videos and a tour. Unless "Rock With U" or "Luv" hits bit enough to push the album in higher sales, don't expect a tour again! Strangely, it seems like the albums are coming out faster and faster the more they flop....she might have something out next year at this rate!
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Reply #38 posted 03/12/08 12:16pm

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banks said:

Copycat said:

Janet Jackson's "Discipline" (Island Def Jam), last week's Billboard 200 topper, falls 1-3 with 57,000,a 68% drop.
(Source: Billboard.com, March 12)




Is this not why the thread was started ?


How very astute of you. Had you taken a closer look you would've noticed that I simply posted the official second week sales figure which differs from what was previously reported by the author of this thread.
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Reply #39 posted 03/12/08 1:10pm

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people have to realize janet is just not a popular artist anymore...

if Feedback featured Ciara or rihanna that song would have made top 10...

the album sales does not necessarily reflect the music... because if over 1 million people can download that stupid soilder boy song... why NOT download janet's??
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Reply #40 posted 03/12/08 1:51pm

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Heres the deal Janet is what 40-42, and still people come out and buy the record, Madonna is 50 and she is gonna sell probably a million here in the usa, MC is 38 and she'll probably do 2 million maybe more. The more important number in that equation is not the sales, its the AGE, longevity people, thats what matters, OK big deal the Janet record will go only GOLD, ok, live with it, did you like the record? thats what is important. Im always amazed how we bitch about the INDUSTRY being all about bottom line and they we cry about 2 weeks sales numbers, this is why i hate the fake ass Soundscam era, because bullshit like this somehow matters, when at the end of the day, if you can still have 200,000 people still wanna buy your record 25 + years into your career, why complain, i mean if Janet was an indie artist would we still respond this way?
Soundscan numbers are meaningless, i mean didnt we all go through this talk when Prince's Planet Earth came out or whenever puts out a new cd and everyone says "why cant he sell like he used too" give up already!

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Reply #41 posted 03/12/08 1:52pm

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lastdecember said:

Heres the deal Janet is what 40-42, and still people come out and buy the record, Madonna is 50 and she is gonna sell probably a million here in the usa, MC is 38 and she'll probably do 2 million maybe more. The more important number in that equation is not the sales, its the AGE, longevity people, thats what matters, OK big deal the Janet record will go only GOLD, ok, live with it, did you like the record? thats what is important. Im always amazed how we bitch about the INDUSTRY being all about bottom line and they we cry about 2 weeks sales numbers, this is why i hate the fake ass Soundscam era, because bullshit like this somehow matters, when at the end of the day, if you can still have 200,000 people still wanna buy your record 25 + years into your career, why complain, i mean if Janet was an indie artist would we still respond this way?
Soundscan numbers are meaningless, i mean didnt we all go through this talk when Prince's Planet Earth came out or whenever puts out a new cd and everyone says "why cant he sell like he used too" give up already!


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Reply #42 posted 03/12/08 2:01pm

midnightmover

lastdecember said:

Heres the deal Janet is what 40-42, and still people come out and buy the record, Madonna is 50 and she is gonna sell probably a million here in the usa, MC is 38 and she'll probably do 2 million maybe more. The more important number in that equation is not the sales, its the AGE, longevity people, thats what matters, OK big deal the Janet record will go only GOLD, ok, live with it, did you like the record? thats what is important. Im always amazed how we bitch about the INDUSTRY being all about bottom line and they we cry about 2 weeks sales numbers, this is why i hate the fake ass Soundscam era, because bullshit like this somehow matters, when at the end of the day, if you can still have 200,000 people still wanna buy your record 25 + years into your career, why complain, i mean if Janet was an indie artist would we still respond this way?
Soundscan numbers are meaningless, i mean didnt we all go through this talk when Prince's Planet Earth came out or whenever puts out a new cd and everyone says "why cant he sell like he used too" give up already!

Of course it's about age. Let's face it though, Island invested a lot of effort in the hopes that this would be a big hit, and they were obviously targeting younger listeners.

Also, crazy as it seems, there are actually a lot of Prince fans who still get disappointed with his recent album sales. Ridiculous I know, but there's been plenty of threads in P:M&M about that subject.
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Reply #43 posted 03/12/08 2:15pm

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midnightmover said:

PatrickS77 said:

Hmm, when the 25 year old album of said artist's older brother almost outsells the brandnew album in it's second week, then that question is almost answered... isn't it? wink

I do hope Janet's album will pick up though! I want her to be successful!

I like your first sentence here. I hate the second one. Lip-synching muppets do not deserve success. If you want to wish someone success, wish it to the talented artists who get totally overlooked in favour of vacuous non-entities like Ms Whack-son.


Yeah, I thought you might like that first sentence... but, nah, I'm gonna wish Janet well... unlike you I like her and don't hold a grudge against her!

I'm not crazy about that Thriller 25 album, but if anything, it shows that there is still a market out there for him... people still want to hear and buy his music... even if he doesn't lift a finger to promote it! This is a big F-U to all the people, who say that no one wants to hear him anymore and that his career is over!

Not really. It just proves there's a big nostalgia market out there, but we knew that already. wink


Contrary to what some were predicting, people still want to hear his music and are willing to pay money for it... that's all that counts! Whatever the reason may be!

lastdecember said:

Heres the deal Janet is what 40-42, and still people come out and buy the record, Madonna is 50 and she is gonna sell probably a million here in the usa, MC is 38 and she'll probably do 2 million maybe more. The more important number in that equation is not the sales, its the AGE, longevity people, thats what matters, OK big deal the Janet record will go only GOLD, ok, live with it, did you like the record? thats what is important. Im always amazed how we bitch about the INDUSTRY being all about bottom line and they we cry about 2 weeks sales numbers, this is why i hate the fake ass Soundscam era, because bullshit like this somehow matters, when at the end of the day, if you can still have 200,000 people still wanna buy your record 25 + years into your career, why complain, i mean if Janet was an indie artist would we still respond this way?
Soundscan numbers are meaningless, i mean didnt we all go through this talk when Prince's Planet Earth came out or whenever puts out a new cd and everyone says "why cant he sell like he used too" give up already!


Yes! Very well said! I mean, look at the Stones! Their last album "only" sold 137.000 copies! But still, several times that number, people came out to see them on a hugely successful arena and stadium tour, 2 years in a row!

I sure hope that Janet will go ahead with her plans to tour this time and doesn't let album sales discourage her!
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Reply #44 posted 03/12/08 2:52pm

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lastdecember said:

Heres the deal Janet is what 40-42, and still people come out and buy the record, Madonna is 50 and she is gonna sell probably a million here in the usa, MC is 38 and she'll probably do 2 million maybe more. The more important number in that equation is not the sales, its the AGE, longevity people, thats what matters, OK big deal the Janet record will go only GOLD, ok, live with it, did you like the record? thats what is important. Im always amazed how we bitch about the INDUSTRY being all about bottom line and they we cry about 2 weeks sales numbers, this is why i hate the fake ass Soundscam era, because bullshit like this somehow matters, when at the end of the day, if you can still have 200,000 people still wanna buy your record 25 + years into your career, why complain, i mean if Janet was an indie artist would we still respond this way?
Soundscan numbers are meaningless, i mean didnt we all go through this talk when Prince's Planet Earth came out or whenever puts out a new cd and everyone says "why cant he sell like he used too" give up already!


Again, if an album does better, fans get more out of the album/artist. If this album thanks, she ain't touring. It kind of sucks! Madonna will tour no matte what....Mariah's record on touring seems iffy at best and unpredictable. Janet for sure has set a precendent. She might have the flu, but it wouldn't be shocking if she was faking becuase she isn't happy with the numbers....Now let's hear from the anti-Janet masses....(I refuse to call you haters....That's very Mariah fanish).
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Reply #45 posted 03/12/08 3:19pm

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VinnyM27 said:

lastdecember said:

Heres the deal Janet is what 40-42, and still people come out and buy the record, Madonna is 50 and she is gonna sell probably a million here in the usa, MC is 38 and she'll probably do 2 million maybe more. The more important number in that equation is not the sales, its the AGE, longevity people, thats what matters, OK big deal the Janet record will go only GOLD, ok, live with it, did you like the record? thats what is important. Im always amazed how we bitch about the INDUSTRY being all about bottom line and they we cry about 2 weeks sales numbers, this is why i hate the fake ass Soundscam era, because bullshit like this somehow matters, when at the end of the day, if you can still have 200,000 people still wanna buy your record 25 + years into your career, why complain, i mean if Janet was an indie artist would we still respond this way?
Soundscan numbers are meaningless, i mean didnt we all go through this talk when Prince's Planet Earth came out or whenever puts out a new cd and everyone says "why cant he sell like he used too" give up already!


Again, if an album does better, fans get more out of the album/artist. If this album tanks, she ain't touring. It kind of sucks! Madonna will tour no matte what....Mariah's record on touring seems iffy at best and unpredictable. Janet for sure has set a precendent. She might have the flu, but it wouldn't be shocking if she was faking becuase she isn't happy with the numbers....Now let's hear from the anti-Janet masses....(I refuse to call you haters....That's very Mariah fanish).

Doesn't that make you lose respect for her? If you're passionate about music then you don't only tour when you've got a hit. If that was the case, then hardly anyone over the age of 30 could ever tour, lol.
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Reply #46 posted 03/12/08 3:22pm

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midnightmover said:

lastdecember said:

Heres the deal Janet is what 40-42, and still people come out and buy the record, Madonna is 50 and she is gonna sell probably a million here in the usa, MC is 38 and she'll probably do 2 million maybe more. The more important number in that equation is not the sales, its the AGE, longevity people, thats what matters, OK big deal the Janet record will go only GOLD, ok, live with it, did you like the record? thats what is important. Im always amazed how we bitch about the INDUSTRY being all about bottom line and they we cry about 2 weeks sales numbers, this is why i hate the fake ass Soundscam era, because bullshit like this somehow matters, when at the end of the day, if you can still have 200,000 people still wanna buy your record 25 + years into your career, why complain, i mean if Janet was an indie artist would we still respond this way?
Soundscan numbers are meaningless, i mean didnt we all go through this talk when Prince's Planet Earth came out or whenever puts out a new cd and everyone says "why cant he sell like he used too" give up already!

Of course it's about age. Let's face it though, Island invested a lot of effort in the hopes that this would be a big hit, and they were obviously targeting younger listeners.

Also, crazy as it seems, there are actually a lot of Prince fans who still get disappointed with his recent album sales. Ridiculous I know, but there's been plenty of threads in P:M&M about that subject.


But looking at Prince, and im not slighting him at all, but he has never been a strong seller, with the exception of 4-5 albums Prince has been the type of artist that has his loyals that will get him to 200,000 and if something catches on than he has a gold record. But i hear this sales argument too much as if it matters in terms of the quality of the record. For me a band like REM or someone like John Mellencamp are two of my favorites in their genres, and they dont "sell" they have their top 10 debuts, sell to their bases and then tour and sell out every show, so though radio has left any over 25 OUT of the mix, with the exception of Mariah and Janet, but lets face it, Mariah and Janet are not aiming at 40 year old audiences, or even their audiences for the most part, they are aiming for what is the "mainstream" at the moment. So if you do that it will catch on or it wont, look at Duran DUran, they experimented with a JT and Timbalame album and look what happend, not even their loyals would support it for the most part, though they came out for the tour.

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Reply #47 posted 03/12/08 3:27pm

midnightmover

lastdecember said:

midnightmover said:


Of course it's about age. Let's face it though, Island invested a lot of effort in the hopes that this would be a big hit, and they were obviously targeting younger listeners.

Also, crazy as it seems, there are actually a lot of Prince fans who still get disappointed with his recent album sales. Ridiculous I know, but there's been plenty of threads in P:M&M about that subject.


But looking at Prince, and im not slighting him at all, but he has never been a strong seller, with the exception of 4-5 albums Prince has been the type of artist that has his loyals that will get him to 200,000 and if something catches on than he has a gold record. But i hear this sales argument too much as if it matters in terms of the quality of the record. For me a band like REM or someone like John Mellencamp are two of my favorites in their genres, and they dont "sell" they have their top 10 debuts, sell to their bases and then tour and sell out every show, so though radio has left any over 25 OUT of the mix, with the exception of Mariah and Janet, but lets face it, Mariah and Janet are not aiming at 40 year old audiences, or even their audiences for the most part, they are aiming for what is the "mainstream" at the moment. So if you do that it will catch on or it wont, look at Duran DUran, they experimented with a JT and Timbalame album and look what happend, not even their loyals would support it for the most part, though they came out for the tour.

I agree. Personally I have more respect for people who just cultivate a core audience rather than dumbing down their shit to reach some airhead half their age.
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Reply #48 posted 03/12/08 3:29pm

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lastdecember said:

Heres the deal Janet is what 40-42, and still people come out and buy the record, Madonna is 50 and she is gonna sell probably a million here in the usa, MC is 38 and she'll probably do 2 million maybe more. The more important number in that equation is not the sales, its the AGE, longevity people, thats what matters, OK big deal the Janet record will go only GOLD, ok, live with it, did you like the record? thats what is important. Im always amazed how we bitch about the INDUSTRY being all about bottom line and they we cry about 2 weeks sales numbers, this is why i hate the fake ass Soundscam era, because bullshit like this somehow matters, when at the end of the day, if you can still have 200,000 people still wanna buy your record 25 + years into your career, why complain, i mean if Janet was an indie artist would we still respond this way?
Soundscan numbers are meaningless, i mean didnt we all go through this talk when Prince's Planet Earth came out or whenever puts out a new cd and everyone says "why cant he sell like he used too" give up already!


Again, if an album does better, fans get more out of the album/artist. If this album thanks, she ain't touring. It kind of sucks! Madonna will tour no matte what....Mariah's record on touring seems iffy at best and unpredictable. Janet for sure has set a precendent. She might have the flu, but it wouldn't be shocking if she was faking becuase she isn't happy with the numbers....Now let's hear from the anti-Janet masses....(I refuse to call you haters....That's very Mariah fanish).


So why cant we apply the stones and springsteen philosphys to these ladies? I mean the Stones sell about 200,000 of a record and then tour and sell 100 million dollars worth of tickets when artists that sell Millions of records cant even half-fill theaters. And lets remember some of the greatest artists of all time didnt have blockbuster sales by any means, especially ones in the 60's and 70's who recorded alot, they would consider Gold big sales, so its all how you look at it. Rihanna just passed a million in sales of her latest album, almost a year after its release, and it had 5 hit singles, so when you take out what they spent on her promotion wise this in "bottom line" terms, was not a success.

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Reply #49 posted 03/12/08 3:32pm

Isel

Truth or Dare?

My truth is that my favorite track on Discipline is "Can't be Good." biggrin biggrin

I LOVE that song.. In a weird way it reminds me of "Island Life." It's like this warm breeze.. I love driving to "Can't be Good.."
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Reply #50 posted 03/12/08 4:47pm

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My favorite is "2nite"
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Reply #51 posted 03/12/08 5:25pm

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midnightmover said:

VinnyM27 said:



Again, if an album does better, fans get more out of the album/artist. If this album tanks, she ain't touring. It kind of sucks! Madonna will tour no matte what....Mariah's record on touring seems iffy at best and unpredictable. Janet for sure has set a precendent. She might have the flu, but it wouldn't be shocking if she was faking becuase she isn't happy with the numbers....Now let's hear from the anti-Janet masses....(I refuse to call you haters....That's very Mariah fanish).

Doesn't that make you lose respect for her? If you're passionate about music then you don't only tour when you've got a hit. If that was the case, then hardly anyone over the age of 30 could ever tour, lol.


Go back to listening to "Loverboy", fool!
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Reply #52 posted 03/12/08 5:26pm

Isel

MikeMatronik said:

My favorite is "2nite"


I like "2nite," too. There is just something about "Can't Be Good" well I already mentioned that sort of Brazilian type vibe. It's so relaxing.. as I'm driving along..

Or listening at my computer.. It's like water.. the ocean.. I just can envision myself.. in a convertable.. driving along with the wind in my hair and "Can't be Good" on the radio.. I just relate to the song..

I was thinking maybe it's the type of song---transcending age?? I don't know... but a lot of people like it.. I guess we've all thought about falling in lust or love.. not being the best choice.. but we are defenseless.. not being able to help ourselves.


Am I a romantic or what????? lol
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Reply #53 posted 03/12/08 5:29pm

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lastdecember said:

VinnyM27 said:



Again, if an album does better, fans get more out of the album/artist. If this album thanks, she ain't touring. It kind of sucks! Madonna will tour no matte what....Mariah's record on touring seems iffy at best and unpredictable. Janet for sure has set a precendent. She might have the flu, but it wouldn't be shocking if she was faking becuase she isn't happy with the numbers....Now let's hear from the anti-Janet masses....(I refuse to call you haters....That's very Mariah fanish).


So why cant we apply the stones and springsteen philosphys to these ladies? I mean the Stones sell about 200,000 of a record and then tour and sell 100 million dollars worth of tickets when artists that sell Millions of records cant even half-fill theaters. And lets remember some of the greatest artists of all time didnt have blockbuster sales by any means, especially ones in the 60's and 70's who recorded alot, they would consider Gold big sales, so its all how you look at it. Rihanna just passed a million in sales of her latest album, almost a year after its release, and it had 5 hit singles, so when you take out what they spent on her promotion wise this in "bottom line" terms, was not a success.



Why can't it? I don't know. I would see Janet based on feedback more than on her last albums sales, but it probably gives her cold feet because if the fans aren't there buying albums, will they come to shows? Maybe that's not a rational way to think but who knows?
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Reply #54 posted 03/12/08 5:38pm

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midnightmover said:

The failure of this album has nothing to do with single choices. People are just tired of Janet Jackson. The younger generation particularly has no interest in her. Unfortunately, it's the younger generation she's aiming at by making kiddie music. I know you guys love new tracks like "Luv" and "Rock With You", but the fact is they are childish. At this point she should be making music for grown-ups, not children.

Amen
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Reply #55 posted 03/12/08 5:50pm

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i'm gonna remember all you haters when her tour kicks off successfully and sales go up. razz
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Reply #56 posted 03/12/08 6:06pm

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Isel said:

MikeMatronik said:

My favorite is "2nite"


I like "2nite," too. There is just something about "Can't Be Good" well I already mentioned that sort of Brazilian type vibe. It's so relaxing.. as I'm driving along..

Or listening at my computer.. It's like water.. the ocean.. I just can envision myself.. in a convertable.. driving along with the wind in my hair and "Can't be Good" on the radio.. I just relate to the song..

I was thinking maybe it's the type of song---transcending age?? I don't know... but a lot of people like it.. I guess we've all thought about falling in lust or love.. not being the best choice.. but we are defenseless.. not being able to help ourselves.


Am I a romantic or what????? lol



No, I feel that way about the song too. I think I like it because it sorta tells a story. I like those type of songs where you can immediately envision the person, where they are and what they're doing. It also gives a true sense of what they're feeling. But it has a wonderful easy melody too. Like you described, 'breezy' combined with her trepidation of falling in love again. The joy and fear of it all.
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Reply #57 posted 03/12/08 6:21pm

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midnightmover said:

The failure of this album has nothing to do with single choices. People are just tired of Janet Jackson. The younger generation particularly has no interest in her. Unfortunately, it's the younger generation she's aiming at by making kiddie music. I know you guys love new tracks like "Luv" and "Rock With You", but the fact is they are childish. At this point she should be making music for grown-ups, not children.



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Reply #58 posted 03/12/08 6:29pm

Isel

JackieBlue said:

Isel said:



I like "2nite," too. There is just something about "Can't Be Good" well I already mentioned that sort of Brazilian type vibe. It's so relaxing.. as I'm driving along..

Or listening at my computer.. It's like water.. the ocean.. I just can envision myself.. in a convertable.. driving along with the wind in my hair and "Can't be Good" on the radio.. I just relate to the song..

I was thinking maybe it's the type of song---transcending age?? I don't know... but a lot of people like it.. I guess we've all thought about falling in lust or love.. not being the best choice.. but we are defenseless.. not being able to help ourselves.


Am I a romantic or what????? lol



No, I feel that way about the song too. I think I like it because it sorta tells a story. I like those type of songs where you can immediately envision the person, where they are and what they're doing. It also gives a true sense of what they're feeling. But it has a wonderful easy melody too. Like you described, 'breezy' combined with her trepidation of falling in love again. The joy and fear of it all.
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"Breezy" yes that's the perfect description. And of course, the "trepidation of falling in love again.. the joy and fear of it all.. The excitement.. And the memory of those feelings.. and the excitement of still feeling the same way.

You said everything I was trying to say, but didn't. Excellent. Your description/explanation is exactly why I LOVE this song.. No.. it's not a current "dance" tune. But it's one where we can take our "partners" in our arms.. just sort of moving the hips.. yeah.. I LUVS it! LOL
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Isel said:

JackieBlue said:




No, I feel that way about the song too. I think I like it because it sorta tells a story. I like those type of songs where you can immediately envision the person, where they are and what they're doing. It also gives a true sense of what they're feeling. But it has a wonderful easy melody too. Like you described, 'breezy' combined with her trepidation of falling in love again. The joy and fear of it all.
[Edited 3/12/08 18:08pm]



"Breezy" yes that's the perfect description. And of course, the "trepidation of falling in love again.. the joy and fear of it all.. The excitement.. And the memory of those feelings.. and the excitement of still feeling the same way.

You said everything I was trying to say, but didn't. Excellent. Your description/explanation is exactly why I LOVE this song.. No.. it's not a current "dance" tune. But it's one where we can take our "partners" in our arms.. just sort of moving the hips.. yeah.. I LUVS it! LOL



You know when I first heard it, it reminded of Twenty Foreplay. Of course she's more secure in her feelings but it's the same the early morning joy of waking up with your lover...

Sleep my love
Don't you worry
You just sleep my love
And I'll stroke your hair
Oh the sunlight on your face
As the day begins to break

When you wake
And your smile meets mine ah
My day begins
You're my inspiration
Seeing your face glow
Is the nicest of hellos


sigh


lol
[Edited 3/12/08 19:02pm]
Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off
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