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Thread started 03/11/08 1:06pm

krayzie

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#47 JANET JACKSON DEF JAM/IDJMG 12,201

#47 JANET JACKSON DEF JAM/IDJMG 12,201

Is it a flop ????
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Reply #1 posted 03/11/08 1:16pm

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krayzie said:

JANET JACKSON DEF JAM/IDJMG 51,753 -71%

Is it a flop ????


In this day and age...the fact that she's still in the Top 5 in the second week is good. That is a might drop though. If they work the single 'Rock With U' right and keep her in the public...she should be fine.
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Reply #2 posted 03/11/08 1:42pm

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After 2 weeks too early to call anything a flop .


If she doesnt get another radio hit though this one will struggle to hit 500,000
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Reply #3 posted 03/11/08 2:20pm

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Hmm, why don't you mention that Michael is right behind her with Triller 25, in it's fourth weeek, having a 20 % sales increase!

Yep, it climbed 5 spots and might even be ahead of Janet on the Billboard Comprehensive Charts, as it only has sold 2572 albums less!

9 4 MICHAEL JACKSON LEGACY 49,181 +20%
THRILLER - 25TH ANNIVERSARY ED.
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Reply #4 posted 03/11/08 2:25pm

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PatrickS77 said:

Hmm, why don't you mention that Michael is right behind her with Triller 25, in it's fourth weeek, having a 20 % sales increase!

Yep, it climbed 5 spots and might even be ahead of Janet on the Billboard Comprehensive Charts, as it only has sold 2572 albums less!

9 4 MICHAEL JACKSON LEGACY 49,181 +20%
THRILLER - 25TH ANNIVERSARY ED.


It is simple. The media loves calling anything Michael does a flop, and when he is on top, they just shut up. They don't want to eat their own words - so they just ignore his successes and then later label them a flop. As much as I hated Invincible, for 2001, it had pretty strong sales.
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Reply #5 posted 03/11/08 2:28pm

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Rock with U will not help sell any cds. Its ova before it began
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Reply #6 posted 03/11/08 2:29pm

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I think the purpose of this thread was to discuss whether Janet's album was a flop .
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Reply #7 posted 03/11/08 2:32pm

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Rock with U will not help sell any cds. Its ova before it began


the video has gotten a lot of positive feedback on youtube, it can't be all diehard fans posting there
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Reply #8 posted 03/11/08 2:42pm

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newpower99 said:

I think the purpose of this thread was to discuss whether Janet's album was a flop .

Hmm, when the 25 year old album of said artist's older brother almost outsells the brandnew album in it's second week, then that question is almost answered... isn't it? wink

I do hope Janet's album will pick up though! I want her to be successful!

Vanilli said:

It is simple. The media loves calling anything Michael does a flop, and when he is on top, they just shut up. They don't want to eat their own words - so they just ignore his successes and then later label them a flop. As much as I hated Invincible, for 2001, it had pretty strong sales.

Yeah, it's always the same! I'm not crazy about that Thriller 25 album, but if anything, it shows that there is still a market out there for him... people still want to hear and buy his music... even if he doesn't lift a finger to promote it! This is a big F-U to all the people, who say that no one wants to hear him anymore and that his career is over!
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Reply #9 posted 03/11/08 3:25pm

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biggrin So MJ fans arent happy enough with the bizillion MJ threads already on this board, now they have to start jacking other threads as well??


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Reply #10 posted 03/11/08 3:36pm

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Well, it's all in the family! You know! wink
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Reply #11 posted 03/11/08 3:40pm

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PatrickS77 said:

Hmm, when the 25 year old album of said artist's older brother almost outsells the brandnew album in it's second week, then that question is almost answered... isn't it? wink

I do hope Janet's album will pick up though! I want her to be successful!

I like your first sentence here. I hate the second one. Lip-synching muppets do not deserve success. If you want to wish someone success, wish it to the talented artists who get totally overlooked in favour of vacuous non-entities like Ms WACKson.

I'm not crazy about that Thriller 25 album, but if anything, it shows that there is still a market out there for him... people still want to hear and buy his music... even if he doesn't lift a finger to promote it! This is a big F-U to all the people, who say that no one wants to hear him anymore and that his career is over!

Not really. It just proves there's a big nostalgia market out there, but we knew that already. wink
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Reply #12 posted 03/11/08 3:45pm

MikeMatronik

I bought it has one of my personnal bday gift for me:

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Reply #13 posted 03/11/08 8:32pm

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krayzie said:

JANET JACKSON DEF JAM/IDJMG 51,753 -71%

Is it a flop ????

what is your obsession with janet failing... and YOU sound jealous....


what a miserable life someone must lead.. anytime they wish failure on others...
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Reply #14 posted 03/11/08 8:38pm

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I love Janet and this CD but based on this drop and frankly the first week (come on people...I know sales dipped but come on!), this isn't the hit she needed and that Island expected yet. She really needs big singles that stay on the charts in order to boost the albums. Maybe just one big one. "Feedback" is great but "Rock With U" needs to kill....it could but is radio playing it? Seems like she is getting so much love for "Luv" on R&B radio but pop radio doesn't care about her newest single(s).
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Reply #15 posted 03/11/08 10:02pm

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VinnyM27 said:

I love Janet and this CD but based on this drop and frankly the first week (come on people...I know sales dipped but come on!), this isn't the hit she needed and that Island expected yet. She really needs big singles that stay on the charts in order to boost the albums. Maybe just one big one. "Feedback" is great but "Rock With U" needs to kill....it could but is radio playing it? Seems like she is getting so much love for "Luv" on R&B radio but pop radio doesn't care about her newest single(s).

first of all I don't care if janet sells... she said herself it doesnt matter...

but i would NOT wish failure.. LIKE THAT KRAZY PERSON..

anyways... she hasn't done enough promotion... just promoting your album the week it comes out is NOT enough...

she could have done more.. but oh well..
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Reply #16 posted 03/11/08 10:24pm

wonder505

what is considered a flop today?
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Reply #17 posted 03/11/08 11:44pm

SoulAlive

The album isn't doing very well.If these sales figures were for another artist,y'all would be calling it a flop.Let's face it folks,this isn't the big "comeback" that Janet and her record label were looking for.If the first two weeks are any indication,she's gonna have a hard time just reaching gold status in the States.'Damita Jo' and '20 Y/O' were considered flops,but at least those albums sold a decent number of copies during their first two weeks.This album sold less than 200,000 during its first week.

Janet should get her ass out there and tour.That's where the real money is,anyway.It's obvious that she's not gonna make alot of money from her CD sales anymore.
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Reply #18 posted 03/11/08 11:51pm

SoulAlive

VinnyM27 said:

I love Janet and this CD but based on this drop and frankly the first week (come on people...I know sales dipped but come on!), this isn't the hit she needed and that Island expected yet. She really needs big singles that stay on the charts in order to boost the albums. Maybe just one big one. "Feedback" is great but "Rock With U" needs to kill....it could but is radio playing it? Seems like she is getting so much love for "Luv" on R&B radio but pop radio doesn't care about her newest single(s).


Yeah,it looks like this album isn't gonna be a big seller for her.Does anyone know...how is the album doing internationally?
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Reply #19 posted 03/12/08 12:49am

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VANITYSprisonBYTCH said:

krayzie said:

JANET JACKSON DEF JAM/IDJMG 51,753 -71%

Is it a flop ????


In this day and age...the fact that she's still in the Top 5 in the second week is good. That is a mighty drop though. If they work the single 'Rock With U' right and keep her in the public...she should be fine.


A 71% sales drop is pretty bad.Even with illegal downloading,a new Janet CD should sell at least 300,000 in its first week.It should be on its way to gold status by now.
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Reply #20 posted 03/12/08 1:09am

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So is this the reason for the "Flu"?

drop out of sight?

just say fuck it?

I mean I'm not a janet fan these days, i did like her early stuff, but this seems odd.

Lord if madonna is giving JT shots of B12 in the ass, Id think that janet could get the some better drugs.
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Reply #21 posted 03/12/08 1:41am

SoulAlive

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Lord if madonna is giving JT shots of B12 in the ass, Id think that janet could get the some better drugs.


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Reply #22 posted 03/12/08 3:48am

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MikeMatronik said:

I bought it has one of my personnal bday gift for me:


, Janet who? Where have! I been ur cuuuute!

Luv needs a video, that song is blowing up right?
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Reply #23 posted 03/12/08 4:13am

SoulAlive

PatrickS77 said:

Hmm, why don't you mention that Michael is right behind her with Triller 25, in it's fourth weeek, having a 20 % sales increase!

Yep, it climbed 5 spots and might even be ahead of Janet on the Billboard Comprehensive Charts, as it only has sold 2572 albums less!

9 4 MICHAEL JACKSON LEGACY 49,181 +20%
THRILLER - 25TH ANNIVERSARY ED.


Yeah,I was surprised to see that.It seems to be selling steadily.
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Reply #24 posted 03/12/08 5:57am

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Reply #25 posted 03/12/08 6:02am

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Heavy like a first day period, Taste my coochie like ice cream, I go on and on
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Reply #26 posted 03/12/08 6:03am

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Im kidding, but Madonna should have frequent heavy flow days 'like a first day period' she's at the stage now? I wonder if they will embrace their menopause through lyrics when they go through it. hhmmmm
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Reply #27 posted 03/12/08 6:07am

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Janet's radio numbers 3/12/08
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Pop: Top 40

LW TW Spins
59 53 Feedback 480 (+82)
70 80 Rock With U 159 (-59)
164 134 Luv 31 (+8)


Pop: Rhythmic

LW TW Spins
47 45 Feedback 543 (-46)
62 59 Rock With U 288 (-27)
120 80 Luv 193 (+95)


Urban :Mainstream

LW TW Spins
35 35 Luv 836 (+82)
72 96 Feedback 123 (-76)
203 259 Rock With U 25 (-13)


Looks like Rock With U is already going nowhere on Pop radio. Its going to be up to Luv to pull this one out .
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Reply #28 posted 03/12/08 8:03am

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>>>Hot Dance Club Play

1 2 6 Feedback, Janet 1
2 3 9 The Boss, Kristine W 2
3 5 10 Gorgeous, Idina Menzel 3
4 1 10 Together, Bob Sinclar & Steve Edwards 1
5 9 9 Beautiful, Taylor Dayne 5
6 10 7 Get This Party Started, Shirley Bassey 7
7 6 9 Piece Of Me, Britney Spears 1
8 11 9 Give It, X-Press 2 8
9 15 7 The Flame 08, Erin Hamilton 9
10 14 7 With Every Heartbeat, Robyn 10


Janet controls the clubs this week! It's her 18th #1 on this chart in last 22 years and first from the newest CD "Discipline".

A complete list of Janet #1's on Hot Dance Club Play chart:

1986 - When I Think Of You - 3 wks
1986 - Control - 3
1987 - The Pleasure Principle - 2
1989 - Miss You Much - 2
1989 - Rhythm Nation - 3
1990 - Escapade - 3
1990 - Alright - 2
1993 - That's The Way Love Goes - 1
1993 - If - 2
1995 - Scream [Michael Jackson & Janet Jackson] - 2
1998 - Together Again - 1
1998 - Go Deep - 1
2001 - All For You - 3
2001 - Someone To Call My Lover - 1
2004 - Just A Little While - 1
2004 - All Nite (Don't Stop) - 1
2007 - So Excited [Janet Featuring Khia] - 1
2008 - Feedback - 1

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Reply #29 posted 03/12/08 8:10am

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headbang @ "Feedback" hitting #1 dance like I know it would!
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