Most of the time, I don't think samplers want to give an hommage to a previous artist, it is all about the money.
Someone mentioned a track featuring on Erykah Badu's new album called American promise, it is initially from a band called Ramp, she did not change the original version that much, she added a few vocals and effects. I just hope that people will check the original. She also samples "My people" but she adds sth new to it. We all know that coming with sth musically brand new is very hard; but it is possible (I don't have the talent for it but I won't be tempted to use someone else's work). Showing musical influences and what an artist likes through his music is great because you learn something new. My only way to play hommage to previous artist is to play their music and share it with other people "Girly Man Man Man..... Kill her kill her kill her" | |
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Suzieq76 said: Most of the time, I don't think samplers want to give an hommage to a previous artist, it is all about the money.
Someone mentioned a track featuring on Erykah Badu's new album called American promise, it is initially from a band called Ramp, she did not change the original version that much, she added a few vocals and effects. I just hope that people will check the original. She also samples "My people" but she adds sth new to it. What about the bassline from P-Funk's Flashlight? Did she give credit 4 that? | |
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Graycap23 said: Suzieq76 said: Most of the time, I don't think samplers want to give an hommage to a previous artist, it is all about the money.
Someone mentioned a track featuring on Erykah Badu's new album called American promise, it is initially from a band called Ramp, she did not change the original version that much, she added a few vocals and effects. I just hope that people will check the original. She also samples "My people" but she adds sth new to it. What about the bassline from P-Funk's Flashlight? Did she give credit 4 that? To be honest I haven't noticed a Flashlight bassline on her album? Maybe it's the Salt N Pepa "I'll Take Your Man" bassline?? | |
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Cinnie said: Graycap23 said: What about the bassline from P-Funk's Flashlight? Did she give credit 4 that? To be honest I haven't noticed a Flashlight bassline on her album? Maybe it's the Salt N Pepa "I'll Take Your Man" bassline?? No.....they slowed the bassline down. I 4 get which track. Let me take a quick listen and let u know. | |
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The bassline in "That Hump" is from Flashlight slowed down. Take a listen.
Combined with a verse from a Switch track.....how original. [Edited 3/11/08 6:36am] | |
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Most of the time, I think sampling is very manipulative, it plays with our musical memory. If an old beat or track has been sampled and was successful, the new one will sell, as people will recognize it consciously or unconsciously.
What make us like a new sampled track is often the old version "Girly Man Man Man..... Kill her kill her kill her" | |
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Suzieq76 said: Most of the time, I think sampling is very manipulative, it plays with our musical memory. If an old beat or track has been sampled and was successful, the new one will sell, as people will recognize it consciously or unconsciously.
What make us like a new sampled track is often the old version very true because I can remember hearing Ashanti's "Foolish" on the radio and instantly wanting to know who this broad was... Biggie's usage of "Stay With Me" will forever be a classic and even when I hear the original it takes me back to like 1995 when that remix was all the rave you instantly think of that houseparty in Brooklyn where the best of the best were in attendance... man I really miss videos like that because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." | |
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Suzieq76 said: Most of the time, I think sampling is very manipulative, it plays with our musical memory. If an old beat or track has been sampled and was successful, the new one will sell, as people will recognize it consciously or unconsciously.
What make us like a new sampled track is often the old version That is why they do it.....and not having the skill/talent 2 create something ORGINAL. | |
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It's not creative or original!!!! P-Diddy was notorious for doing it. The Willinium album, too. (Did I spell that right?) | |
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Graycap23 said: The bassline in "That Hump" is from Flashlight slowed down. Take a listen.
Combined with a verse from a Switch track.....how original. I'll have a listen. I like Switch too! | |
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Love it. | |
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This is an Issue that I am fighting with myself about at the moment..
If I had to cut all the bullshit out and just get straight to the point..I would say.. I DONT respect people that cant play at all and are using over obvious samples to make millions of dollars in the "MUSIC" industry... I DO respect people that have actual musical talent.."can play a bass..can play a guitar..can play keys..ect.." But, chooses to sample in a tasteful way "SOUNDS" a guitar played into a modern digital system wont sound like a guitar played through an amp and recorded on analog Tape ! If a dude decided to sample something with "the sound" of a vintage recording..but,he was fully capable of doing it himself but didnt have the means to get it dont in the proper way "to get the SOUND of a sample" then thats ok with me..I can feel that dudes pain ! Vinyl is a beautiful thing and Tape + Tape compression is a beautiful thing ! | |
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prettymansson said: This is an Issue that I am fighting with myself about at the moment..
If I had to cut all the bullshit out and just get straight to the point..I would say.. I DONT respect people that cant play at all and are using over obvious samples to make millions of dollars in the "MUSIC" industry... I DO respect people that have actual musical talent.."can play a bass..can play a guitar..can play keys..ect.." But, chooses to sample in a tasteful way "SOUNDS" a guitar played into a modern digital system wont sound like a guitar played through an amp and recorded on analog Tape ! If a dude decided to sample something with "the sound" of a vintage recording..but,he was fully capable of doing it himself but didnt have the means to get it dont in the proper way "to get the SOUND of a sample" then thats ok with me..I can feel that dudes pain ! Vinyl is a beautiful thing and Tape + Tape compression is a beautiful thing ! No argument there. | |
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prettymansson said: If a dude decided to sample something with "the sound" of a vintage recording..but,he was fully capable of doing it himself but didnt have the means to get it dont in the proper way "to get the SOUND of a sample" then thats ok with me..I can feel that dudes pain
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prettymansson saidthats ok with me..I can feel that dudes pain !
Vinyl is a beautiful thing and Tape + Tape compression is a beautiful thing ! [/quote] Yes yes yes yes yes! Original and unique music made me buy vinyls, when you hear good music it is like finding a goldmine! Glad to know that people understand "Girly Man Man Man..... Kill her kill her kill her" | |
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