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Crazywonderful

Scathing article about Rihanna in UK paper

Rihanna, O2 Arena, London
http://www.independent.co...html?r=RSS
(Rated 2/ 5 )
More like 'The Clothes Show'

Yui Mok/PA Wire

The dominatrix effect: Rihanna's skimpy attire rather eclipsed her singing

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By Nick Hasted
Tuesday, 11 March 2008

In the boulevards outside the O2 Arena, an already half-forgotten Big Brother winner skips happily past me, trailing screaming girls in his wake. Inside, young girls in Rihanna T-shirts and tutus link arms, showing pop devotion's more appealing side. Both sights are more memorable than Rihanna's actual show, which celebrates the 10 weeks at No 1 for "Umbrella" with an overblown yet old-fashioned spectacle.
Rihanna turned 20 last month, and has already sold nine million copies of her three albums, helped by friends such as Jay-Z, Justin Timberlake and Sean Paul. But, watching her walk on in a black spandex fetish jacket, bustier, ultra-hot pants and stiletto boots, you have to wonder who has moulded her success. "Where my ladies at?" she asks, before joining her two similarly clad female dancers in wiggling their bottoms, as a prelude to "Break It Off". It's like watching the death of feminism to an R&B beat.
Worse for Rihanna, when she poses cocked against the mic stand for "Rehab" as if she's a torch singer, then draws on her West Indian roots for Bob Marley's "Is This Love", the skimpy leatherwear looks ludicrous. Whatever late-night rap channels may feel, Half-Dressed Dominatrix is not an all-purpose style for young female singers. It's also the exact look Madonna was courting mild controversy with circa 1992. When her dancers stretch and pose in slow motion as she slips off her jacket, it is a Hollywood "gentlemen's" club's idea of sexuality and transgression.
"Good Girl Gone Bad", dedicated "to all my bad girls out there", sets a similar lyrical template. "You better learn how to treat us right," she asserts, of a bad boy who's left her broken and boozing in a club. But she follows it up with "Hate That I Love You", which is nothing if not masochistic. The final irony in Rihanna's dominatrix look is that this slight Bajan girl, barely out of her teens, seems naturally pliant and nice. It is as if her lithe, dancer's body has been dressed by older, male hands, to suit their own fantasies. Amy Winehouse's wild, wilful self-destruction suddenly looks almost healthy.
Rihanna's two backing singers, meanwhile, wear more tasteful cocktail dresses, and carry the songs. Her rougher voice cuts across them almost randomly, and is only strong when buffed by effects. Look at the video screens, and you can admire Rihanna's looks, and diamond-encrusted mic. Look at the stage, and her real performance has no charisma, no defining persona. She could be a mannequin, or a hopeful rap video extra.
When Rihanna slips off for a costume change, we are taken still further back in time, to some awful Eighties Broadway dance "piece", incorporating bits of Tron, and Cabaret's pink boas and hats. Guitar solos from the usual expensive, hack band signify rock'n'roll, as Soft Cell's version of "Tainted Love" forms the undercarriage of "SOS".
Even when "Don't Stop the Music" stumbles on a genuinely driving, house cyber-beat, cages are wheeled on to clamber into athletically. "Shut Up and Drive" sees Formula 1 flags and pit-babe outfits. It seems amazing that the young crowd are sitting still for this misbegotten mess, until I realise that they have seen it on American television. From American Idol to Oscar night, Rihanna is offering the kind of tackiness that still passes as mainstream showbiz in the US; which, for many, pop is now reduced to.
She returns for the encore lounging on a zebra-striped chaise longue, and lets the crowd sing much of "Umbrella", an R&B power ballad as old-fashioned as everything else tonight. It's like punk, disco, and the 21st century never happened.
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Reply #1 posted 03/13/08 6:00pm

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clapping
cream.
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Reply #2 posted 03/13/08 6:00pm

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Look at those smooth thighs! cool
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Reply #3 posted 03/13/08 6:03pm

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Don't be postin this crap about my future wife!

Say what you will, but I'd take her fun, sexy vibe over Beyonce's over-exposed, over-appreciated and arrogant ass any-day. razz
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Reply #4 posted 03/13/08 6:13pm

Crazywonderful

I loved Rihanna's last album ... but still i don't buy into HER

how do u go from girl next store to dominatrix in a few months?
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Reply #5 posted 03/13/08 6:30pm

Anxiety

It's like watching the death of feminism to an R&B beat.


lol
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Reply #6 posted 03/13/08 6:40pm

Dance

She sucks ass, but her in those boots eek eek

and falloff @
"Shut Up and Drive" sees Formula 1 flags and pit-babe outfits.


That's just sad.
[Edited 3/13/08 18:42pm]
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Reply #7 posted 03/14/08 10:29am

prettymansson

Im not a fan of sellout ho's so...5 stars!!!!! cool
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Reply #8 posted 03/14/08 10:41am

MsLegs

Anxiety said:

It's like watching the death of feminism to an R&B beat.


lol

The wordplay in this article is quite descriptive for a pop tart.
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Reply #9 posted 03/14/08 10:54am

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MsLegs said:

Anxiety said:



lol

The wordplay in this article is quite descriptive for a pop tart.


thumbs up!
She's mostly hype.
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Reply #10 posted 03/14/08 11:06am

MsLegs

BlaqueKnight said:

MsLegs said:


The wordplay in this article is quite descriptive for a pop tart.


thumbs up!
She's mostly hype.

nod All hype no substance.
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Reply #11 posted 03/14/08 11:16am

Empress

This shouldn't really be news to any of us. You only have to watch her perform and hear her music to know this about her. I've said it right from the beginning. She's a pop-tart that can barely sing who gets by on her looks and revealing clothes.
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Reply #12 posted 03/14/08 11:31am

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MsLegs said:

BlaqueKnight said:



thumbs up!
She's mostly hype.

nod All hype no substance.

That's all she is. A hot mess. disbelief
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Reply #13 posted 03/14/08 11:36am

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I remember how she mocked Britney at the VMA's earlier.

All I could think of is: "Don't be so quick to judge a peer who has done more than you will ever do. Most "singers" are gone in a hot minute."

My teenage, female cousin says she's got a "moonrock for a head". lol
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Reply #14 posted 03/14/08 1:16pm

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Alasseon said:

I remember how she mocked Britney at the VMA's earlier.

All I could think of is: "Don't be so quick to judge a peer who has done more than you will ever do. Most "singers" are gone in a hot minute."

My teenage, female cousin says she's got a "moonrock for a head". lol

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She is a Jay-Z discovery. That should tell you everything you need to know.
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Alasseon said:

I remember how she mocked Britney at the VMA's earlier.

All I could think of is: "Don't be so quick to judge a peer who has done more than you will ever do. Most "singers" are gone in a hot minute."

My teenage, female cousin says she's got a "moonrock for a head". lol


Rihanna has more talent in every department...voice, looks, all of it. She puts Shitney to shame.
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Reply #16 posted 03/14/08 1:29pm

Timmy84

hah!
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Reply #17 posted 03/14/08 1:29pm

Timmy84

Vanilli said:

Alasseon said:

I remember how she mocked Britney at the VMA's earlier.

All I could think of is: "Don't be so quick to judge a peer who has done more than you will ever do. Most "singers" are gone in a hot minute."

My teenage, female cousin says she's got a "moonrock for a head". lol


Rihanna has more talent in every department...voice, looks, all of it. She puts Shitney to shame.


If only she got better material. lol
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Timmy84 said:

Vanilli said:



Rihanna has more talent in every department...voice, looks, all of it. She puts Shitney to shame.


If only she got better material. lol

If only homegirl could sing worth a damn.
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Reply #19 posted 03/14/08 1:44pm

Timmy84

purplecam said:

Timmy84 said:



If only she got better material. lol

If only homegirl could sing worth a damn.


evillol
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Reply #20 posted 03/14/08 2:18pm

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Being able to outsing Britney is like being able to "out-see" Ray Charles. It doesn't mean you have good vision. Rihanna is wack.
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Reply #21 posted 03/14/08 2:26pm

MsLegs

BlaqueKnight said:

Being able to outsing Britney is like being able to "out-see" Ray Charles. It doesn't mean you have good vision. Rihanna is wack.

highfive Great analogy.
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Reply #22 posted 03/14/08 2:28pm

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Timmy84 said:

purplecam said:


If only homegirl could sing worth a damn.


evillol


My original comment about not knocking your peers was not based on talent. It was based on longevity.

In 2008 Britney was ten years from her breakout hit, "Baby, Hit Me One More Time".

She had several albums, number one songs, had made quite a few videos, and inspired a new wave of Britney-wannabees. She had her own concerts on both HBO and news specials dedicated to her, sitting down with no less than Diane Sawyer.

She also had a career even before 1998 as a child star with the Disney machine.

While Cristina Aguilera has a parallel career, she was never the sensation the Britney was. And Cristina can sing most of the people in her generation off the stage.

Along comes Rihanna who had one(!) hit, Umbrella, and starts laughing about someone else in the business. It's not very cool. Ten years from now, how many people will remember her? Who knows?

Fans can say anything they want, but industry pros should know how hard it is to get there and how hard it is to stay there.

Anita Baker, Sade, Angela Bofill, Evelyn Champagne King, Shannon, Cheryl Pepsii Riley, Pebbles, Brenda Russell, hell, even Whitney Houston and Janet Jackson, can tell you how hard it is to be a woman in the music industry. Talent is only part of the puzzle.
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Reply #23 posted 03/14/08 2:43pm

fcukthepolice

who cares if she can sing?

I want to fuck her; so does every straight male
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Reply #24 posted 03/14/08 2:46pm

MsLegs

fcukthepolice said:

who cares if she can sing?

I want to fuck her; so does every straight male

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Reply #25 posted 03/14/08 3:06pm

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BlaqueKnight said:

Being able to outsing Britney is like being able to "out-see" Ray Charles.


falloff falloff falloff
tho' I battled blind
love is a fate resigned
memories mar my mind
love it is a fate resigned

Over futile odds
and laughed at by the Gods
and now the final frame
Love is a losing game
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Reply #26 posted 03/14/08 3:21pm

uPtoWnNY

Crazywonderful said:

Rihanna, O2 Arena, London
http://www.independent.co...html?r=RSS
(Rated 2/ 5 )
More like 'The Clothes Show'

Yui Mok/PA Wire

The dominatrix effect: Rihanna's skimpy attire rather eclipsed her singing

*
*

By Nick Hasted
Tuesday, 11 March 2008

In the boulevards outside the O2 Arena, an already half-forgotten Big Brother winner skips happily past me, trailing screaming girls in his wake. Inside, young girls in Rihanna T-shirts and tutus link arms, showing pop devotion's more appealing side. Both sights are more memorable than Rihanna's actual show, which celebrates the 10 weeks at No 1 for "Umbrella" with an overblown yet old-fashioned spectacle.
Rihanna turned 20 last month, and has already sold nine million copies of her three albums, helped by friends such as Jay-Z, Justin Timberlake and Sean Paul. But, watching her walk on in a black spandex fetish jacket, bustier, ultra-hot pants and stiletto boots, you have to wonder who has moulded her success. "Where my ladies at?" she asks, before joining her two similarly clad female dancers in wiggling their bottoms, as a prelude to "Break It Off". It's like watching the death of feminism to an R&B beat.
Worse for Rihanna, when she poses cocked against the mic stand for "Rehab" as if she's a torch singer, then draws on her West Indian roots for Bob Marley's "Is This Love", the skimpy leatherwear looks ludicrous. Whatever late-night rap channels may feel, Half-Dressed Dominatrix is not an all-purpose style for young female singers. It's also the exact look Madonna was courting mild controversy with circa 1992. When her dancers stretch and pose in slow motion as she slips off her jacket, it is a Hollywood "gentlemen's" club's idea of sexuality and transgression.
"Good Girl Gone Bad", dedicated "to all my bad girls out there", sets a similar lyrical template. "You better learn how to treat us right," she asserts, of a bad boy who's left her broken and boozing in a club. But she follows it up with "Hate That I Love You", which is nothing if not masochistic. The final irony in Rihanna's dominatrix look is that this slight Bajan girl, barely out of her teens, seems naturally pliant and nice. It is as if her lithe, dancer's body has been dressed by older, male hands, to suit their own fantasies. Amy Winehouse's wild, wilful self-destruction suddenly looks almost healthy.
Rihanna's two backing singers, meanwhile, wear more tasteful cocktail dresses, and carry the songs. Her rougher voice cuts across them almost randomly, and is only strong when buffed by effects. Look at the video screens, and you can admire Rihanna's looks, and diamond-encrusted mic. Look at the stage, and her real performance has no charisma, no defining persona. She could be a mannequin, or a hopeful rap video extra.
When Rihanna slips off for a costume change, we are taken still further back in time, to some awful Eighties Broadway dance "piece", incorporating bits of Tron, and Cabaret's pink boas and hats. Guitar solos from the usual expensive, hack band signify rock'n'roll, as Soft Cell's version of "Tainted Love" forms the undercarriage of "SOS".
Even when "Don't Stop the Music" stumbles on a genuinely driving, house cyber-beat, cages are wheeled on to clamber into athletically. "Shut Up and Drive" sees Formula 1 flags and pit-babe outfits. It seems amazing that the young crowd are sitting still for this misbegotten mess, until I realise that they have seen it on American television. From American Idol to Oscar night, Rihanna is offering the kind of tackiness that still passes as mainstream showbiz in the US; which, for many, pop is now reduced to.
She returns for the encore lounging on a zebra-striped chaise longue, and lets the crowd sing much of "Umbrella", an R&B power ballad as old-fashioned as everything else tonight. It's like punk, disco, and the 21st century never happened.



Folks actually paid money for this sh!t??? eek
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uPtoWnNY said:

Crazywonderful said:




Folks actually paid money for this sh!t??? eek

falloff I know right?! They got what they deserved.
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