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Reply #30 posted 03/05/08 10:08pm

thesexofit

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TonyVanDam said:

dag said:

Reading books whilte preparing for writing my diploma thesis, I came across this interesting opinion on music that has affected me because I see a lot of truth in it.

By music, we isolate ourselves from others. If it´s true that music fills most of our free time, than it is also true that this free time is the least free. We are being manipulated by profesional and institutionalized "fillers" of free time. The unnecessary presence of music in this free time deprives us of our duty to do something with this free time. Music is becoming a modern opium of masses.
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That last sentence is only true if the author is referring to rave culture.



I use to go to raves when I was younger. And despite the drugs, it was a friendly, easy going place. I never did any hard drugs (and dont do any now), but I miss raves sometimes.
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Reply #31 posted 03/06/08 9:51pm

alphastreet

it's so true, although I love music and it serves at great escapism

sometimes i wonder if i should be more religious and put my energy there instead of just listening to music all the time
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Reply #32 posted 03/07/08 6:20am

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alphastreet said:

it's so true, although I love music and it serves at great escapism

sometimes i wonder if i should be more religious and put my energy there instead of just listening to music all the time


or combine the two and create secular music, Bach dedicated his life through it and the Lutheran Church
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Reply #33 posted 03/07/08 7:01am

Graycap23

Unless I'm in the studio, I listen 2 music while doing something else. This does NOT make any sense.
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Reply #34 posted 03/07/08 7:22am

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I think there is some truth in it, though I think it is important to note that we don't all listen to all music in the same way of for the same reasons - and that difference isn't just a person-to-person, it is often within the same person.


What I mean is sometimes I listen to music as a means in itself - I specifically put a song on to listen to it, to pay full attention to it. Be it escapism or whatever. Sometimes it passes an otherwise dull car journey (my drive to work can take anything between 45 minutes to 90 mins, depending on the wondrous feat of engineering that is central England's M6 motorway).

Sometimes I'm watching the music live, with friends, enjoying the shared experience, marvelling at the talent on display (or lack thereof), or maybe just as a soundtrack to a drunken night as something to jump around to to cover up the fact that for me the room is spinning all of its own accord anyway!

Or maybe its the low times, the sad times, when I Know It's Over gets an airing or Acrobat or some such. When you're down, sometimes you just want to wallow, you know Maybe that's a bad thing, maybe it is GOOD to know you aren't the first or last to feel this way.Maybe it's good to know the song (and hence the mood) could last just 3 minutes and then on to the next track, I dunno...

Or maybe it's just the dumb rock fun of a hard rock track, just for the hell of it, for the smile on my face.


Whatever, I don't think it is a simple as saying "We use music in X way to achieve Y result".

Music is cleverer, more complex and more sueful than that.
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Reply #35 posted 03/07/08 7:30am

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This just might be the stupidest thread in org history,I can't believe at a music site,NEEDING music is being attacked.
And what is this nonsense about who sits down and only listens to music?
I don't care how busy you are,if you're REALLY into music,you will find the time to SIT DOWN AND EXPERIENCE A RECORD,instead of just always playing it in the background.
Don't be a lazy listener.You think Jimi Hendrix played his mind-blowing solos,just so you can play it in the background,giving it only 25% of your attention?
You think Prince is the fantastic musician he is,because he never took the time to sit down and listen to those James Brown,Sly,Stevie records he grew up on?

You obviously don't listen to jazz,cause jazz ain't background music!
I DON'T WANT TO BE NORMAL,because normal is part of the status quo,which I don't want to be a part of- Tori Amos
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Reply #36 posted 03/07/08 8:17am

alphastreet

I don't write religious music, if I do write once in awhile, it's related to emotions, and sometimes even love and sex, I have a little janet and prince side to me too, that I hide, but may never show :p
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Reply #37 posted 03/07/08 9:09am

dag

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gypsyfire said:

This just might be the stupidest thread in org history,I can't believe at a music site,NEEDING music is being attacked.
And what is this nonsense about who sits down and only listens to music?
I don't care how busy you are,if you're REALLY into music,you will find the time to SIT DOWN AND EXPERIENCE A RECORD,instead of just always playing it in the background.
Don't be a lazy listener.You think Jimi Hendrix played his mind-blowing solos,just so you can play it in the background,giving it only 25% of your attention?
You think Prince is the fantastic musician he is,because he never took the time to sit down and listen to those James Brown,Sly,Stevie records he grew up on?

You obviously don't listen to jazz,cause jazz ain't background music!

Don´t get me wrong. I love listening to music, just as everybody else and when I do listen to music I usually REALLY listen to it. I don´t use it as a background.

It´s just sad that some ppl do and they do it more and more.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #38 posted 03/07/08 9:46am

llf553

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The author fails to realize that while we listen to music, that isn't exclusively what we do. In other words, who sits there and only listens?
Usually, it's background noise while we multitask. Dance? Ok, we're excersing too. There are countless things to do while listening to music.

Music also brings people together, the complete opposite of the very first sentence. Has this guy ever been to a party?


I was just gon' say "Have I been doing it wrong?" I'm usually doing something else while listening to music: usually, everything I do is to music!! biggrin
“Wait a second. Do you think I’m a racist?”
“Sure, Butch. Everybody’s a racist. I am. You are. This is America. It’s our national religion. The question you want to ask is, do I think your racism affects how ... you behave toward me."
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Reply #39 posted 03/07/08 2:39pm

Miles

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dag said:

Reading books whilte preparing for writing my diploma thesis, I came across this interesting opinion on music that has affected me because I see a lot of truth in it.

By music, we isolate ourselves from others. If it´s true that music fills most of our free time, than it is also true that this free time is the least free. We are being manipulated by profesional and institutionalized "fillers" of free time. The unnecessary presence of music in this free time deprives us of our duty to do something with this free time. Music is becoming a modern opium of masses.
[Edited 3/5/08 14:12pm]


hmm interesting, but this could be send of any entertaining activity that isn't necessary for survival i.e. eating ice cream, playing the bagpipes, masturbating in an offhand fashion whilst watching "Murder She Wrote" on a Sunday afternoon, etc

hmmm actually whoever wrote that quote is talking crap. What about attending concerts, dancing, the communion of gospel music, and so on. Music doesn't necessarily isolate.


evillol

And yes, surely most music serves to unite us in some way.
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Reply #40 posted 03/07/08 2:44pm

Miles

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Brendan said:

Some people can't stand to be left alone in their own silence.

This is very true.
It's as if the quiet sound of their own thoughts frighten them for some reason.



hmmm
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Reply #41 posted 03/07/08 5:58pm

MsLegs

Miles said:

LittleSmedley said:



hmm interesting, but this could be send of any entertaining activity that isn't necessary for survival i.e. eating ice cream, playing the bagpipes, masturbating in an offhand fashion whilst watching "Murder She Wrote" on a Sunday afternoon, etc

hmmm actually whoever wrote that quote is talking crap. What about attending concerts, dancing, the communion of gospel music, and so on. Music doesn't necessarily isolate.


evillol

And yes, surely most music serves to unite us in some way.

whistle Dig. Music can soothe, and remove
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