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Thread started 03/04/08 8:48am

motownlover

ive bought my first recordplayer!

ive bought a record player today biggrin
i just bought a simple player because i want to start to collect some vinyl. i just love the big album covers and the big records and the crispy sound when the needle hits the record.
do you have tips for record hunting/ maintenance ?
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Reply #1 posted 03/04/08 8:58am

Graycap23

What did u get? Technics 1200?
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Reply #2 posted 03/04/08 8:59am

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motownlover said:

ive bought a record player today biggrin
i just bought a simple player because i want to start to collect some vinyl. i just love the big album covers and the big records and the crispy sound when the needle hits the record.
do you have tips for record hunting/ maintenance ?



1. Lets see what u got! Details! excited

Aint nothing like it!!!

I would definitly buy a nice slip cover if it doesnt already have one to make sure it takes the dust off. Dont touch the needle too much omg like my Ion Double Deck Kit, it can fall right off being brushed too hard. mad

Used weka sto's are the best in vinyl. Depending on your location you should ask where are the best to buy vinyl.
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Reply #3 posted 03/04/08 9:05am

motownlover

its a sony ps-lx250h

and it has a slip cover
and i know a shop or 2 in town that sells vinyl records new and used. and i could always go to the 'utrecht platen beurs" to expand my collection.
the man next door has like 100s or 1000s of records so , ill visit him soon lol
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Reply #4 posted 03/04/08 9:29am

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Congrats..your officially in the REAL music world. cool
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Reply #5 posted 03/04/08 9:31am

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As for record maintenace, I never washed or cleaned my records. I tried cleaning a record once. Back in those days, there were cleaning liquids out there and I tried it but didn't see much difference in it. I think companies were just trying to make money.

The best advice I can give is to keep all the inside album sleeves. Back in the day, a lot of people used to take out the inside sleeves and hang them on their wall as posters. Those sleeves actually do protect and preserve the record. I kept all my inside sleeves and, years later, I've bought a few used records that didn't have the inside sleeve. Those records don't sound near as good as the ones I bought back in the day in which I kept the sleeves.
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Reply #6 posted 03/04/08 9:35am

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Also, pay attention when you hear a record skip. The record could actually be scratched, however, if you notice that more and more of your records are starting to skip (that never skipped before), it is time for a new needle. When you get a new needle, the skipping will stop (if the record isn't scratched). Do not continue playing your records with a worn out needle though. If you do, you will eventually end up scratching your records.
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Reply #7 posted 03/04/08 9:56am

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vainandy said:

Also, pay attention when you hear a record skip. The record could actually be scratched, however, if you notice that more and more of your records are starting to skip (that never skipped before), it is time for a new needle. When you get a new needle, the skipping will stop (if the record isn't scratched). Do not continue playing your records with a worn out needle though. If you do, you will eventually end up scratching your records.


thanx , i was curious about that too, ive been told that when you buy new records fresh from the factory you need to clean them due to factory oil or something in that extend. and ive seen expensive machines and i thought nah im not going to pay that much money.
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Reply #8 posted 03/04/08 10:00am

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motownlover said:

vainandy said:

Also, pay attention when you hear a record skip. The record could actually be scratched, however, if you notice that more and more of your records are starting to skip (that never skipped before), it is time for a new needle. When you get a new needle, the skipping will stop (if the record isn't scratched). Do not continue playing your records with a worn out needle though. If you do, you will eventually end up scratching your records.


thanx , i was curious about that too, ive heard when you buy new records fresh from the factory you need to clean them due to factory oil or something in that extend. and ive seen expensive machines and i thought nah im not going to pay that much money.


People love to invent things just to make money. We didn't have any record cleaning machines back in the day and our records are still going on strong today. lol
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Reply #9 posted 03/04/08 10:40am

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vainandy said:



People love to invent things just to make money. We didn't have any record cleaning machines back in the day and our records are still going on strong today. lol

You are so right. Most times, it's nothing but alcohol that they use for a cleaning solution.
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Reply #10 posted 03/04/08 10:41am

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vainandy said:

As for record maintenace, I never washed or cleaned my records. I tried cleaning a record once. Back in those days, there were cleaning liquids out there and I tried it but didn't see much difference in it. I think companies were just trying to make money.

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daPrettyman said:

vainandy said:



People love to invent things just to make money. We didn't have any record cleaning machines back in the day and our records are still going on strong today. lol

You are so right. Most times, it's nothing but alcohol that they use for a cleaning solution.


In the early 1980s, I remember buying a high priced bottle of Memorex brand liquid cleaner and it had a felt brush. All it did was make my record look blurry rather than shiny. Also, the sound on that particular record I cleaned was never as crisp again either.
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Reply #12 posted 03/04/08 11:03am

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While we are on the subject of record players, this is how I evolved over the years.....

My first record player was one of these but it was a Snoopy brand:



My very first stereo looked something like this. Like the picture, mine also was a grand prix brand:



My mother had a console stereo similar to this:



Presently, I have two of these:

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Reply #13 posted 03/04/08 11:41am

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vainandy said:



My mother had a console stereo similar to this:



Presently, I have two of these:

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uuuugggghhh..i remember every black family house had one of them...uuugghhh
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Reply #14 posted 03/04/08 11:50am

prettymansson

aint it the truth !!!!!lol

paisleypark4 said:

vainandy said:



My mother had a console stereo similar to this:



Presently, I have two of these:

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uuuugggghhh..i remember every black family house had one of them...uuugghhh
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Reply #15 posted 03/04/08 11:58am

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prettymansson said:

aint it the truth !!!!!lol

paisleypark4 said:





uuuugggghhh..i remember every black family house had one of them...uuugghhh


falloff

yes..it be filled with tapes on top and all types of papers
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Reply #16 posted 03/04/08 12:13pm

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paisleypark4 said:

vainandy said:



My mother had a console stereo similar to this:



Presently, I have two of these:

.




uuuugggghhh..i remember every black family house had one of them...uuugghhh


A friend of my mother's had a bad ass console stereo in 1979 and 1980 which I would have loved to have. It was about four or five feet tall and had a radio, turntable, and 8 track player in the middle. Underneath the control buttons were speakers which were disco lights that flashed to the beat of the music. Behind the control buttons was a mirror which extended upwards. On top of that, were three miniature disco balls that spun with small lights shining on them which put rotating circles on all over the room. That damn thing was bad!
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Reply #17 posted 03/04/08 12:30pm

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vainandy said:



A friend of my mother's had a bad ass console stereo in 1979 and 1980 which I would have loved to have. It was about four or five feet tall and had a radio, turntable, and 8 track player in the middle. Underneath the control buttons were speakers which were disco lights that flashed to the beat of the music. Behind the control buttons was a mirror which extended upwards. On top of that, were three miniature disco balls that spun with small lights shining on them which put rotating circles on all over the room. That damn thing was bad!


love
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Reply #18 posted 03/04/08 3:00pm

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vainandy said:



A friend of my mother's had a bad ass console stereo in 1979 and 1980 which I would have loved to have. It was about four or five feet tall and had a radio, turntable, and 8 track player in the middle. Underneath the control buttons were speakers which were disco lights that flashed to the beat of the music. Behind the control buttons was a mirror which extended upwards. On top of that, were three miniature disco balls that spun with small lights shining on them which put rotating circles on all over the room. That damn thing was bad!

Do you all remember the ones with the television in the middle. I know a family that had one of those. I thought it was the best thing ever.
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Reply #19 posted 03/05/08 9:22am

motownlover

how can i tell if a record is in a good condition> where do i look for >?
and i can be wrong but i have the impression that certain classics are still in print is that true? such as off the wall . or songs in the key of life
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Reply #20 posted 03/05/08 9:40am

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motownlover said:

how can i tell if a record is in a good condition> where do i look for >?
and i can be wrong but i have the impression that certain classics are still in print is that true? such as off the wall . or songs in the key of life



At used record stores u can usually open it up and look and see if it has many scratches or warped disc from the sun or heat. (WATCH OUT 4 THAT, My New Edition Candy Girl just aint right no mo bawl ).
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Reply #21 posted 03/05/08 9:49am

prettymansson

She gives me a bang...biggrin

paisleypark4 said:

motownlover said:

how can i tell if a record is in a good condition> where do i look for >?
and i can be wrong but i have the impression that certain classics are still in print is that true? such as off the wall . or songs in the key of life



At used record stores u can usually open it up and look and see if it has many scratches or warped disc from the sun or heat. (WATCH OUT 4 THAT, My New Edition Candy Girl just aint right no mo bawl ).
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prettymansson said:

She gives me a bang...biggrin

paisleypark4 said:




At used record stores u can usually open it up and look and see if it has many scratches or warped disc from the sun or heat. (WATCH OUT 4 THAT, My New Edition Candy Girl just aint right no mo bawl ).


dancing jig

Girl I need u!
Gotta have u!!

dancing jig

was that a video??
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Reply #23 posted 03/05/08 10:30am

FuNkeNsteiN

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vainandy said:

As for record maintenace, I never washed or cleaned my records. I tried cleaning a record once. Back in those days, there were cleaning liquids out there and I tried it but didn't see much difference in it. I think companies were just trying to make money.

You can actually wash records, as in wash like you'd wash dishes lol
I've never tried it but one of my local record dealers (an old cat, who's been into vinyl for a loooong time) does it on regular basis.

I should probably give it a go sometime smile
It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.

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Reply #24 posted 03/05/08 10:33am

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motownlover said:

how can i tell if a record is in a good condition> where do i look for >?
and i can be wrong but i have the impression that certain classics are still in print is that true? such as off the wall . or songs in the key of life

Look at the record's surface. If it's scratched it might be skip. Sometimes the scratches are so light that they won't cause your record to skip.

And yes, there are lots of reissues of classic albums and original prints of some albums, like Off The Wall are very easy to come by.
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Reply #25 posted 03/05/08 10:57am

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

motownlover said:

how can i tell if a record is in a good condition> where do i look for >?
and i can be wrong but i have the impression that certain classics are still in print is that true? such as off the wall . or songs in the key of life

Look at the record's surface. If it's scratched it might be skip. Sometimes the scratches are so light that they won't cause your record to skip.

And yes, there are lots of reissues of classic albums and original prints of some albums, like Off The Wall are very easy to come by.


I hate when they have those fake color copy slips on the front... uugh..like the re-issues of the singles
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Reply #26 posted 03/05/08 11:29am

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

vainandy said:

As for record maintenace, I never washed or cleaned my records. I tried cleaning a record once. Back in those days, there were cleaning liquids out there and I tried it but didn't see much difference in it. I think companies were just trying to make money.

You can actually wash records, as in wash like you'd wash dishes lol
I've never tried it but one of my local record dealers (an old cat, who's been into vinyl for a loooong time) does it on regular basis.

I should probably give it a go sometime smile




shocked no no no! I would suggest that you never use any detergents on vinyl records. It will leave a film on the vinyl and only make the cleaning harder, because now you have to remove the detergent film.. when you were only trying to remove dust. I've had records in storage for years and only had one major problem with mildew, because the storage bin I rented had a leaking roof. The album paper sleeves were stuck to the vinyl and I used a simple solution of distilled water and alcohol.

I use lent free cloths and record brush and a solution of distilled water and 20% alcohol mixture. I think using plain Isopropyl alcohol is not a good idea either. I would use something like The Disc Doctor or other type record cleaner than use any kind of dishwashing detergents. Clean your slip mats with a vaccum... never wash them.

O' and someone told me about a denatured alcohol and water solution, but I have never tried it....and probably will not try it.

Detergents and straight alcohol will dry out vinyl quickly and leave the crackle and pop sound.
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Reply #27 posted 03/05/08 11:37am

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StarMon said:

FuNkeNsteiN said:


You can actually wash records, as in wash like you'd wash dishes lol
I've never tried it but one of my local record dealers (an old cat, who's been into vinyl for a loooong time) does it on regular basis.

I should probably give it a go sometime smile




shocked no no no! I would suggest that you never use any detergents on vinyl records. It will leave a film on the vinyl and only make the cleaning harder, because now you have to remove the detergent film.. when you were only trying to remove dust. I've had records in storage for years and only had one major problem with mildew, because the storage bin I rented had a leaking roof. The album paper sleeves were stuck to the vinyl and I used a simple solution of distilled water and alcohol.

I use lent free cloths and record brush and a solution of distilled water and 20% alcohol mixture. I think using plain Isopropyl alcohol is not a good idea either. I would use something like The Disc Doctor or other type record cleaner than use any kind of dishwashing detergents. Clean your slip mats with a vaccum... never wash them.

O' and someone told me about a denatured alcohol and water solution, but I have never tried it....and probably will not try it.

Detergents and straight alcohol will dry out vinyl quickly and leave the crackle and pop sound.


Yea, I don't think he uses detergents, but anyways wink
I'm not exactly sure how he does it, I gotta ask him some day for details lol
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Reply #28 posted 03/05/08 11:42am

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

StarMon said:





shocked no no no! I would suggest that you never use any detergents on vinyl records. It will leave a film on the vinyl and only make the cleaning harder, because now you have to remove the detergent film.. when you were only trying to remove dust. I've had records in storage for years and only had one major problem with mildew, because the storage bin I rented had a leaking roof. The album paper sleeves were stuck to the vinyl and I used a simple solution of distilled water and alcohol.

I use lent free cloths and record brush and a solution of distilled water and 20% alcohol mixture. I think using plain Isopropyl alcohol is not a good idea either. I would use something like The Disc Doctor or other type record cleaner than use any kind of dishwashing detergents. Clean your slip mats with a vaccum... never wash them.

O' and someone told me about a denatured alcohol and water solution, but I have never tried it....and probably will not try it.

Detergents and straight alcohol will dry out vinyl quickly and leave the crackle and pop sound.


Yea, I don't think he uses detergents, but anyways wink
I'm not exactly sure how he does it, I gotta ask him some day for details lol


One trick I learned from this cat is, that if there are like old price tags that are 'stuck' on the cover, you can iron the cover to get the price tag off smile
You can also use a blow dryer.
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FuNkeNsteiN said:

StarMon said:





shocked no no no! I would suggest that you never use any detergents on vinyl records. It will leave a film on the vinyl and only make the cleaning harder, because now you have to remove the detergent film.. when you were only trying to remove dust. I've had records in storage for years and only had one major problem with mildew, because the storage bin I rented had a leaking roof. The album paper sleeves were stuck to the vinyl and I used a simple solution of distilled water and alcohol.

I use lent free cloths and record brush and a solution of distilled water and 20% alcohol mixture. I think using plain Isopropyl alcohol is not a good idea either. I would use something like The Disc Doctor or other type record cleaner than use any kind of dishwashing detergents. Clean your slip mats with a vaccum... never wash them.

O' and someone told me about a denatured alcohol and water solution, but I have never tried it....and probably will not try it.

Detergents and straight alcohol will dry out vinyl quickly and leave the crackle and pop sound.


Yea, I don't think he uses detergents, but anyways wink
I'm not exactly sure how he does it, I gotta ask him some day for details lol

whew ..... cool...from the Save The Vinyl Coalition. lol
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