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Thread started 02/29/08 7:00am

jami0mckay

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Lewis Taylor Appreciation

I can't believe this guy wasn't a huge star, also that he retired from the music business a couple of years ago. sad







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Reply #1 posted 02/29/08 7:05am

Graycap23

I agree.....he seemed a bit kooky though.
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Reply #2 posted 02/29/08 7:15am

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Graycap23 said:

I agree.....he seemed a bit kooky though.


true, but no more kookier than prince, mj, todd rungren, etc smile
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Reply #3 posted 02/29/08 7:20am

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i am a HUGE Lewis Taylor fan.
i play his shit at my dj night all the time.
couldn't agree more that he should be huge.
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Reply #4 posted 02/29/08 7:22am

Graycap23

jami0mckay said:

Graycap23 said:

I agree.....he seemed a bit kooky though.


true, but no more kookier than prince, mj, todd rungren, etc smile

lol.....a different kind of kooky,
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Reply #5 posted 02/29/08 7:36am

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ButterscotchPimp said:

i am a HUGE Lewis Taylor fan.
i play his shit at my dj night all the time.
couldn't agree more that he should be huge.


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I hadn't listened to his stuff for a while then played his first cd a couple of nights ago and I was WOW...like when I first heard it.

Its also unusual imo that his music hasn't dated at all.
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Reply #6 posted 02/29/08 7:38am

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jami0mckay said:

ButterscotchPimp said:

i am a HUGE Lewis Taylor fan.
i play his shit at my dj night all the time.
couldn't agree more that he should be huge.


biggrin

I hadn't listened to his stuff for a while then played his first cd a couple of nights ago and I was WOW...like when I first heard it.

Its also unusual imo that his music hasn't dated at all.



So true.
And good lord, Esthero looks hot in the "Stoned" video.
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Reply #7 posted 02/29/08 7:45am

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ButterscotchPimp said:

jami0mckay said:



biggrin

I hadn't listened to his stuff for a while then played his first cd a couple of nights ago and I was WOW...like when I first heard it.

Its also unusual imo that his music hasn't dated at all.



So true.
And good lord, Esthero looks hot in the "Stoned" video.


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I actually struggled to find many decent clips on youtube which is another shame, people need to hear his music!!!!



ok I've calmed down now smile
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Reply #8 posted 02/29/08 7:49am

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Lewis is without a doubt one of my favorite artists of all time. The man's creative output is its own universe in and of itself. I was really disappointed that he decided to retire, but hopefully someone will come to him and say "See My Way" and he'll come back. One can always dream, right? wink
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Reply #9 posted 02/29/08 7:52am

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guitarslinger44 said:

Lewis is without a doubt one of my favorite artists of all time. The man's creative output is its own universe in and of itself. I was really disappointed that he decided to retire, but hopefully someone will come to him and say "See My Way" and he'll come back. One can always dream, right? wink


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you never know, stranger things have happened wink
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Reply #10 posted 02/29/08 8:02am

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More LT.








He has been known to make the occasional odd turn...



...For instance, recreating tunes from Captain Beefheart's Troutmask Replica.


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Reply #11 posted 02/29/08 9:56am

Mong

I thought Esthero looked like a transexual in the "Stoned" video.

Lewis hasn't really retired from the industry, as he's playing in The Edgar Broughton Band and The Drivers (who have an album out soon with him on it). He's going by his original name of Andrew Taylor (although Taylor isn't even his real surname).
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Reply #12 posted 02/29/08 12:32pm

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Mong said:


Lewis hasn't really retired from the industry, as he's playing in The Edgar Broughton Band and The Drivers (who have an album out soon with him on it). He's going by his original name of Andrew Taylor (although Taylor isn't even his real surname).


Good to know. He seemed like UK's version of Shuggie Otis -- a brilliant cat who by all rights should have hit it big but was at odds with industry philosophy.

What a great talent. One of the best artists to come along in years.
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Reply #13 posted 02/29/08 1:06pm

Mong

He's not at odds with industry philosophy. He has an immense fear of success. He couldn't deal with the promo push that "Stoned Pt.1" was getting (as in TV slots) and sabotaged it. He also fucked the MD gig he had with Gnarls Barkley. Shame, as he's a bloody genius.
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Reply #14 posted 02/29/08 2:40pm

SPYZFAN1

Lewis is the man..The way I felt about P in the 80's and Meshell in the 90's is how I feel about Lewis today. A brilliant cat.

My brother black guitaristz (what's up B?) and paligap hipped me to him on the org a few years back.
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Reply #15 posted 02/29/08 3:17pm

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theAudience said:

More LT.








He has been known to make the occasional odd turn...



...For instance, recreating tunes from Captain Beefheart's Troutmask Replica.


tA

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After you posted this cat's video then, I was able to place him. I've heard some of his stuff before. He definitely has some Minnie funk appeal going. And, I recall him doing a cut/ Estero a while back.
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Reply #16 posted 02/29/08 7:34pm

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...


Long Live Lewis(or Andy, Or whatever he's calling himself these days)!!






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Reply #17 posted 02/29/08 7:57pm

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paligap said:

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Long Live Lewis(or Andy, Or whatever he's calling himself these days)!!






...

Might as well throw this one up...



...for the adventurous among us. smile



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Reply #18 posted 02/29/08 7:58pm

Mong

This may well be the last vocal thing he did...

http://www.dgmlive.com/ar...?show=1061

I'm sure that some of you LT fans have his Sheriff Jack stuff from the late 80s. What amazes me about it is how shit his voice was! He truly came on and leaps and bounds since then...
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Reply #19 posted 02/29/08 8:03pm

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Mong said:

This may well be the last vocal thing he did...

http://www.dgmlive.com/ar...?show=1061

I'm sure that some of you LT fans have his Sheriff Jack stuff from the late 80s. What amazes me about it is how shit his voice was! He truly came on and leaps and bounds since then...


Thanks for the link.
It's not that bad. I've heard worse. smile


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Reply #20 posted 02/29/08 11:05pm

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That debutalbum from 1996 is one of my favourite
from the 90's.I never really got as hooked with his
other abums.Not as the first one.
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Reply #21 posted 03/01/08 12:06am

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My fave...
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Reply #22 posted 03/01/08 8:54am

namepeace

Mong said:

He's not at odds with industry philosophy. He has an immense fear of success. He couldn't deal with the promo push that "Stoned Pt.1" was getting (as in TV slots) and sabotaged it. He also fucked the MD gig he had with Gnarls Barkley. Shame, as he's a bloody genius.


Gotcha. Thanks.
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Reply #23 posted 03/04/08 1:35am

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violator said:



My fave...



Genius, pure genius biggrin
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Reply #24 posted 03/06/08 12:53am

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I had the pleasure to know 'Lewis' during the time of his 'Stoned' records and everything written here about him - not least Mong - seems pretty on the money to me.

I've met lots of musicians ad music people over the decades but, acknowledged or otherwise, Lewis Taylor is a true genius...for my money the most important artist to emerge in the UK since John Lennon. Generally, the name is unrecognised by the man (woman) on the street, but most musicians one meets regard Lewis in awe as some kind of musical God. And, rightly so...his talent and artistry is truly exceptional.

Like many gifted people (the piece about Princes reaction to this site is but one, not untypical, example), it's not always possible to follow their personal logic and many of their actions appear, well, strange and self-defeating.

I suspect Andrew really struggled with the 'Lewis' persona and killed him off a couple of years back. 'Andrew' continues to play bit parts (ie rhythm guitar and b.v's) with some truly average bands and he seems much happier, at face value, being out of the (relative) limelight. Lewis Taylor defines the phrase 'Cult Artist' and even if that persona is dead forever (and that angelic soulful voice was part of the Lewis persona), we're lucky that such a solid body of workhas been left behind for us to enjoy.

Lewis remains a true giant in an industry of pygmies.
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markede said:

I had the pleasure to know 'Lewis' during the time of his 'Stoned' records and everything written here about him - not least Mong - seems pretty on the money to me.

I've met lots of musicians ad music people over the decades but, acknowledged or otherwise, Lewis Taylor is a true genius...for my money the most important artist to emerge in the UK since John Lennon. Generally, the name is unrecognised by the man (woman) on the street, but most musicians one meets regard Lewis in awe as some kind of musical God. And, rightly so...his talent and artistry is truly exceptional.

Like many gifted people (the piece about Princes reaction to this site is but one, not untypical, example), it's not always possible to follow their personal logic and many of their actions appear, well, strange and self-defeating.

I suspect Andrew really struggled with the 'Lewis' persona and killed him off a couple of years back. 'Andrew' continues to play bit parts (ie rhythm guitar and b.v's) with some truly average bands and he seems much happier, at face value, being out of the (relative) limelight. Lewis Taylor defines the phrase 'Cult Artist' and even if that persona is dead forever (and that angelic soulful voice was part of the Lewis persona), we're lucky that such a solid body of workhas been left behind for us to enjoy.

Lewis remains a true giant in an industry of pygmies.



biggrin Hey, Mark Ede!!! I enjoy your posts over on the Lewis Taylor News(?)group. IMO, they're pretty on the money, too! Nice to see ya over here!!!




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Reply #26 posted 03/06/08 9:14am

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Hey Man!

Well Lewis was (somewhat unfairly to both artists) sometimes called the UK Prince (for want of a better description)!!!
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Reply #27 posted 03/06/08 9:35am

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Yeah, definitely an unfair description, though...

So, y'think he'll always be making some kind of music, as long as he stays well away from the limelight? It's a shame though.....as you said, he's got the talent to blow most of the industry away...everyone I played his music for has been floored(especially those B sides and rare tracks)...and my musician friends say he's very inspiring, makes them want to push themselves further creatively...

I made a pilgrimage up to NYC, back in January of '06, to catch his performance at the packed Bowery Ballroom...the place was filled with fans and fellow musicians-- I remember seeing Moby and Eric Roberson, and others among the crowd...Jazzheads, Rockers, Funkateers, The Hip-Hop crowd...everybody was representin' lol...

He Killed, and the ecstatic crowd was singing along and he really seemed to having fun!!! I really thought he was finally getting his due after all these years. After the concert, a friend of mine said, "This is one of those concerts where people who aren't here tonight will years later claim they were," lol..

In retrospect, I guess all the attention scared the hell out of him...you could kinda tell from the subsequent interviews that he really would rather be somewhere else...

....but if he's truly happier this way, so be it, I guess...




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Reply #28 posted 03/06/08 12:50pm

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I made a plilgrimage up to NYC, back in January of '06, to catch his performance at the packed Bowery Ballroom...the place ws filled with fans and fellow musicians-- I remember seeing Moby and Eric Roberson, and others among the crowd...Jazzheads, Rockers, Funkateers, The Hip-Hop crowd...everybody was representin' lol...

He Killed, and the ecstatic crowd was singing along and he really seemed to having fun!!!I really thought he was finally getting his due after all these years. After the concert, a friend of mine said, "This is one of those concerts where people who aren't here tonight will years later claim they were," lol..


After getting amped up to experience something similar at The Troubadour, we got the rug pulled out from under us here in L.A. confused



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Reply #29 posted 03/06/08 12:59pm

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There are 3 albums that never leaves my IPOD Martin Luther's Rebel Soul music, Bilal's Love for Sale and Lewis Taylor's Stoned Part 1.
I just can't find words to describe the greatness of this man. In fact I wish I was him or at least have half of his talent. biggrin
He could have been R and B version of radiohead. I never understood why that didn't happen but this thread has really shed some light on the mystery.
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