Just sayin'

didn't see it, but diddy's been annoying. where you been?

I didn't see it, but it happens to a lot of people, even musical forces as awesome as James Brown.

Here's one of the greats being so insecure on Conan O'Brien several years ago that he has to do things like remind people that he can play the piano. And you can tell that most everyone is getting increasingly uncomfortable with the interview because this is "James Fucking Brown" and he doesn't have to lower himself into proving his musical worth.

But that's just the way our culture often is; people mostly talk/write about the youth when it comes to music, and pretty much anything entertainment related.

But if you're a living legend, you shouldn't be concerned. Your music will outlive you.

But if you're Kanye or Diddy and will likely never even approach James Brown's music, I guess all one can hope for is that they will become more humble, more realistic about their musical talents as they age.

Anything is possible.

purplepolitician said:

LMAO! For real!

I didn't see it either and really don't want to but had this thread said Diddy on Letterman tonight and he wasn't annoying. I'd be all over cbs.com or youtube trying to see it cause it'd definitely a first!

SexyBeautifulOne said:

Reason????? Because Kanye is nothing more than the DIDDY of this decade, everything Kanye is, is stolen from Puffy. How can everyone call Kanye "original" when he is doing exactly all the things that Puffy did in the 90's.

lastdecember said:

Are u listening to same albums I'm listening to? The only thing they have in common is their fashion sense...after that, they are in two different boxes....

murph said:

Listen to there "rhyming" techniques, their vocals, the way they break things down. And now "light suits" and big glasses, i mean its all the same theme. Kanye may be more "lyrical", but they are very much in the same mold.

lastdecember said:

Yes indeed, lyrical techniques are totally different...Yeah, no one would ever confuse West with Rakim, but dude's artistic vision owes more to the influences of the Native Tongues crew (De La Soul, A Tribe Called Quest, Black Sheep,JB's ect...)...But he's a more polished and commercial version...

As for style, he is on Diddy's wavelength in terms of his high fashion sense...But he doesn't wear shiny suits like Puff..LOL....If anything he has a more futuristic take (His shine is more "Daft Punk" than Diddy in the Mase-Shiney suit era...)

And then there's the fact, even with all of his immature, asshole tendencies, West has been a champion of the underground and left field acts...He's the cat that made sure Common got mainstream love cuz he new dude deserved it...he's the same guy that championed the likes of Kid Sister and Lupe Fiasco before anyone ever heard of dude...

In other words, he aint Puffy...lol
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murph said:

All may be true, but Puff's cross into the "mainstream" is really why Kanye was able to get into the mainstream and alot of others since. Whether people like Puff as a rapper or not, or think he has "cred" he opened it up, and not only that brought through people like Notorious Big, who basically, despite only 2 albums, basically ushered in alot of others through influence. Puff brought Big into the mainstream, where he would have never been accepted. Puff really opened a door "further" for rap to be commercial and embraced in mainstream, he basically owned the mid-later 90's which is when alot of these cats thought about getting in the game.

lastdecember said:

But Puff's crossover into the mainstream influenced every act that came after him, not just Kanye...

Puffy's Bad Boy run in the late '90s opened everything up, for better and for worst...But West to his credit has made sure to mix the larger than life swagger of that era with the the late '80s/early '90s hip hop era that so many people romanticize as hip hop at its best...

The thing with dude is for every "Gold Digger" there is a "We Major" with Nas...His artistic vision has a lot more layers than Diddy...Labeling West because he commercial is a little lazy in my opinion (no disrespect homie...)
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lastdecember said:

Kanye actually can rhyme and has thought provoking lyrics. Diddy is just
a dance queen and a fashion plate. He cannot rhyme but he provided us with
biggie and mary. That is pretty much his claim to fame along with his clothing
line. What can you steal from puffy? Certainly not originality since he never
had any.

lastdecember said:

I wouldn't credit puff for being the first to cross over into mainstream.
Have you ever heard of Run DMC? Even MC hammer for what it's worth broke down
the doors before puffy even thought about wearing those shiny ass suits.
Run DMC by far had more to do with rappers going mainstream long before puffy.
You can bet puffy was wearing the shell toed adidas when Run was rocking the house.