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Thread started 02/13/08 6:18am

Milty

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TTD's Neither Fish Nor Flesh Appreciation Thread



http://en.wikipedia.org/w..._Nor_Flesh

Neither Fish Nor Flesh (A Soundtrack of Love, Faith, Hope & Destruction) is Terence Trent D'Arby's second album, released in 1989 on Columbia Records. Coming off the heels of his highly success debut album Introducing the Hardline According to Terence Trent D'Arby, suffice to say this album was highly anticipated. The album was panned by many critics at the time as being overly indulgent, scattered with pretentious song titles, and unfocused.[citation needed] Rolling Stone critic Mark Coleman described the album as "an inconsistent concept album... despite his aspirations toward Messianic rock stardom...".
The album can be seen as another example of the sophomore slump that many artist find themselves in when it comes time to release their second album. Maxwell's second album Embrya (1998) drew a lot of parallels to this album.
Track listing

All songs written by Terence Trent D'Arby.
"Declaration: Neither Fish Nor Flesh" – 1:44
"I Have Faith in These Desolate Times" – 4:14
"It Feels So Good to Love Someone Like You" – 3:38
"To Know Someone Deeply Is to Know Someone Softly" – 4:27
"I'll Be Alright" – 5:57
"Billy Don't Fall" – 4:21
"This Side of Love" – 4:59
"Attracted to You" – 4:01
"Roly Poly" – 3:54
"You Will Pay Tomorrow" – 4:54
"I Don't Want to Bring Your Gods Down" – 6:19
"...And I Need to Be With Someone Tonight" – 3:04



It's a comfort album.
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Reply #1 posted 02/13/08 6:25am

unkemptpueblo

I dont think this album is that bad. A bit self indulgent? yes, but most art is. 'Billy Dont Fall', 'To KNow Someone..', 'I Dont Want to Bring YOur GodsDown' are standouts.

Also disagree about the Embrya comparisson. Embrya is another album that gets slammed by critics, but IMHO its just as good as Urban Hang Suite.
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Reply #2 posted 02/13/08 7:21am

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I have to dig anything he's ever brought out because of his voice!
small circles, big wheels!
I've got a pretty firm grip on the obvious!
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Reply #3 posted 02/13/08 7:31am

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Milty said:



http://en.wikipedia.org/w..._Nor_Flesh

Neither Fish Nor Flesh (A Soundtrack of Love, Faith, Hope & Destruction) is Terence Trent D'Arby's second album, released in 1989 on Columbia Records. Coming off the heels of his highly success debut album Introducing the Hardline According to Terence Trent D'Arby, suffice to say this album was highly anticipated. The album was panned by many critics at the time as being overly indulgent, scattered with pretentious song titles, and unfocused.[citation needed] Rolling Stone critic Mark Coleman described the album as "an inconsistent concept album... despite his aspirations toward Messianic rock stardom...".
The album can be seen as another example of the sophomore slump that many artist find themselves in when it comes time to release their second album. Maxwell's second album Embrya (1998) drew a lot of parallels to this album.
Track listing

All songs written by Terence Trent D'Arby.
"Declaration: Neither Fish Nor Flesh" – 1:44
"I Have Faith in These Desolate Times" – 4:14
"It Feels So Good to Love Someone Like You" – 3:38
"To Know Someone Deeply Is to Know Someone Softly" – 4:27
"I'll Be Alright" – 5:57
"Billy Don't Fall" – 4:21
"This Side of Love" – 4:59
"Attracted to You" – 4:01
"Roly Poly" – 3:54
"You Will Pay Tomorrow" – 4:54
"I Don't Want to Bring Your Gods Down" – 6:19
"...And I Need to Be With Someone Tonight" – 3:04



It's a comfort album.

I love this album, although I haven't listened to it in months. I love To Know Someone Deeply..., Billy Don't Fall, and And I Need To Be With Someone Tonight
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Reply #4 posted 02/13/08 8:18am

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this was TTD's follow up album to a brilliant first album... imo

I never got into it ...

now- years later - this thread kinda makes me wanna get the album out and give it a listen (if i can find it lol) ...

(i just wanna add- i love his albums after this - all of em - better than his 1st albums and 2nds album imo) wink
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Reply #5 posted 02/13/08 8:28am

HamsterHuey

bboy87 said:

To Know Someone Deeply..., Billy Don't Fall, and And I Need To Be With Someone Tonight


Good choices.

And I love This Side Of Love!
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Reply #6 posted 02/13/08 9:58am

emile57

I love all his work.
I got this one on vinyl.When it came out they never showed the videos on TV.
I love this album alot.
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Reply #7 posted 02/13/08 10:01am

Dance

I'm sorry, but it absolutely amazes me that there are people who like his stuff and that he has some kind of little following. lol
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Reply #8 posted 02/13/08 10:09am

Rightly

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all time fave!

better than prince lol
small circles, big wheels!
I've got a pretty firm grip on the obvious!
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Reply #9 posted 02/13/08 11:29am

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I love this album.
It definitely ain't "Introducing..." pt. 2, it sounds more like TTD more than TTD on a production line.
Admittingly my fave album from TTD (NOT Sananda Maitreya) allround is...



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Reply #10 posted 02/13/08 11:49am

Romeoblu

It's a Great album. My favorites are This Side of Love and You will pay tomorrow.

It's not however his finest. The award goes to Symphony or Damn, which also boasts some excellent b-sides from the singles.

And Embrya is another classic, I much prefer it to Urban Hang Suite.
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Reply #11 posted 02/13/08 11:54am

Empress

I absolutely love TTD and have all his cd's. This one is my least favorite, but it's still ok. TTD has the most awesome voice. I just love it!
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Reply #12 posted 02/13/08 11:57am

midnightmover

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I'm sorry, but it absolutely amazes me that there are people who like his stuff and that he has some kind of little following. lol

Most of the time you talk sense, but every now and then you let yourself down. lol
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Reply #13 posted 02/13/08 11:59am

Empress

midnightmover said:

Dance said:

I'm sorry, but it absolutely amazes me that there are people who like his stuff and that he has some kind of little following. lol

Most of the time you talk sense, but every now and then you let yourself down. lol


Most of the time confused shake
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Reply #14 posted 02/13/08 12:17pm

Dance

btw

He needs to keep his shirt on at all times.

He looks like a starved bird.
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Reply #15 posted 02/15/08 1:10pm

Miles

ColAngus said:

this was TTD's follow up album to a brilliant first album... imo

I never got into it ...

now- years later - this thread kinda makes me wanna get the album out and give it a listen (if i can find it lol) ...


I know what you mean. This one has always struck me as being a little too self-indulgent, even by T's standards.

I shall have to reassess this album soon.

Personally, I've always been more of a 'Vibrator' man. lol
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Reply #16 posted 02/15/08 2:34pm

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Miles said:

Personally, I've always been more of a 'Vibrator' man. lol

My favorite is Symphony or Damn, but Vibrator is right behind it. music
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Reply #17 posted 02/15/08 2:54pm

Serious

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HamsterHuey said:

bboy87 said:

To Know Someone Deeply..., Billy Don't Fall, and And I Need To Be With Someone Tonight


Good choices.

And I love This Side Of Love!


highfive This side of love is my favourite song of the album as well. It's a very good album and I love it even though I am also more of a Vibrator lady lol.
With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A....
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Reply #18 posted 02/15/08 11:54pm

rebelsoldier

I love this album the first time I heard it. I really don't have a ranking for TTD album they are all awesome. Roly Poly is sooooo funky, probably his funkiest track.
Billy don't fall is also amazing, he really took a risk with this one but I'm so happy he did.

He really needs Kevin Wyatt's bass to bring back the funk. Damn I miss the old band.
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Reply #19 posted 02/16/08 2:14am

TheMightyCeles
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Y'know, I bought this album ( well.... maybe I shoplifted it. I'm not too sure. This was back in the days of my youth, when I was trying to prove to the world that I was hard & finding any excuse I could to stick it to the Man. I usually did this by not paying for anything whenever I went to the mall. And at the arcade, next to the Chess King, I became so good at Centipede, just so's I could get the top four high scores & spelled my name "Fuk D'Man" on 'em. Those scores stood for about 5 yrs) when it first came out, but hardly ever listened to it, that I don't even remember what it sounded like. I don't know if I even still have it.
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Reply #20 posted 02/16/08 5:18am

Rightly

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TheMightyCelestial said:

Y'know, I bought this album ( well.... maybe I shoplifted it. I'm not too sure. This was back in the days of my youth, when I was trying to prove to the world that I was hard & finding any excuse I could to stick it to the Man. I usually did this by not paying for anything whenever I went to the mall. And at the arcade, next to the Chess King, I became so good at Centipede, just so's I could get the top four high scores & spelled my name "Fuk D'Man" on 'em. Those scores stood for about 5 yrs) when it first came out, but hardly ever listened to it, that I don't even remember what it sounded like. I don't know if I even still have it.

I once got busted
for stealing that morrissey album with alma matters on it neutral
and also a 2nd cd which I can't remember

crime doesn't pay
but it does even things out a bit
small circles, big wheels!
I've got a pretty firm grip on the obvious!
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Reply #21 posted 02/16/08 2:33pm

TANKAEFC

God, I never expected to see an appreciation thread for this album, but glad it appeared. This is one of the most peculiar albums I've ever heard, and that's why I like it. That it breaks away from Hardling is what blesses it and curses it at the same time (ya'll know the human race's penchant for mindless repetition...)

The album's only negative point is that it seems anacronistic. He was definitely making a good abstract statement, and the album's first four tracks are good theater before he kicks off with a good groove. But I don't think the music listening public at that time had the capacity to digest this album.
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Reply #22 posted 02/16/08 2:36pm

TANKAEFC

Rolling Stone critic Mark Coleman described the album as "an inconsistent concept album... despite his aspirations toward Messianic rock stardom...".

[/i] A Rolling Stone critic panned it? Need we say more about Rolling Stone's flawed choicing skills?

The album can be seen as another example of the sophomore slump that many artist find themselves in when it comes time to release their second album. Maxwell's second album Embrya (1998) drew a lot of parallels to this album.

[/i] I happen to really dig this album. See, just like I said about, the human race has a penchant for mindless repetition.
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Reply #23 posted 02/16/08 4:12pm

FiveFootNine

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*This side of Love* was and still is a great song!
**...they were right about you.**
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Reply #24 posted 02/16/08 7:42pm

JEDINATION

My Favorite TTD/Sananda Album... hands down...and I love em all
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Reply #25 posted 02/16/08 9:35pm

ThreadBare

Beginning to end, this album is excellent. The fact that it was critically panned had a lot to do with music industry politics and the media press' reaction to his bragadocio, not the quality of the music on NFNF.

Terence brought it hard with this album -- lyrically, musically and topically.
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Reply #26 posted 02/17/08 1:44am

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Never was a fan of this album, as much as I like TTD...
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Reply #27 posted 02/17/08 3:57am

ThreadBare

CalhounSq said:

Never was a fan of this album, as much as I like TTD...

And, I was so close to following your Alice advice.... disbelief Forget it, now...
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Reply #28 posted 02/17/08 5:19am

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ThreadBare said:

CalhounSq said:

Never was a fan of this album, as much as I like TTD...

And, I was so close to following your Alice advice.... disbelief Forget it, now...

YOU BETTER GET THAT CD!!! fight chair




Please? batting eyes innocent
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Reply #29 posted 02/17/08 11:16am

novabrkr

Empress said:

midnightmover said:


Most of the time you talk sense, but every now and then you let yourself down. lol


Most of the time confused shake


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