http://www.usatoday.com/l...ueen_N.htm

Grammy producer Ken Ehrlich, noting that Beyoncé idolizes Franklin, says he was baffled.

"It was an innocent remark," Ehrlich said. "It certainly wasn't meant to disparage Aretha. Aretha has been and continues to be a very important part of the music industry and transcends labels. That's why the Recording Academy gave her the honor of MusiCares Person of the Year and invited her to perform on the Grammys."


Mathew Knowles, Beyoncé's father and manager, declined to get a comment from his daughter.

"I'm not even going to take this to her," he said. "Something this ridiculous, it's childish, it's unprofessional. And it's a sad day when egos get bruised because somebody used the word king, queen, prince or princess."

For once I agree with him.

I agree but I still can't stand him or his over-rated and over-exposed daughter.

I wonder if Tina will bother making a response because I think, ultimately, this was a diss to her. Aretha just basically saying "Chile, Anna Mae ain't shit - I'm the Queen!".

dragondayz said:

Mr. Knowles is right.

I also agree with Matthe but would have liked it better if Beyonce had said it, especially the part about it being childish and unprofessional. I don't think Tina is paying this any mind. She knows who and what she is. I hope she doesn't bother addressing this mess.

What the fuck ever!!!!

When his little brat EARNS and DESERVES a motherfucking title like "Queen" of anything other than "ANNOYING, OVER-SATURATED, YEAH WE KNOW SHE CAN CARRY A TUNE BUT IT'S HIGH DAMN TIME TO SIT HER ASS DOWN SOMEWHERE BECAUSE SHE'S GETTING ON MY DAMN NERVES AND I JUST CAN'T STOMACH WATCHING HER SHAKE HER ASS THROUGH A SONG ANYMORE PSEUDO SUPERSTAR ", then he can come talk to me about The Queen-Aretha Franklin!!!!!

Mr. Knowles!! I'm sick of you and your little rugrats!!

Matthews comments are tacky. Tina should be offended more than anyone, and I hate the part when he says "I'm not going to even bring this to her" as though Beyonce is the bigger celebrity and Aretha is Ashanti or somebody. He could have been classy like the Grammy producers, but all I'm seeing is his ego.

SexyBeautifulOne said:

Well, yeah, that too.

Dammit, why'd Aretha have to say anything.

dragondayz said:

Exactly. It doesn't matter, him and his daughter will both be washed up in a few years. They are just milking her for all she is worth now, because they know, she own't be around forever.

Aretha will have the last laugh.

Scorpion said:

Uh yes and aretha would be right. Aretha's catalogue of hits is far deeper
than tina's. Besides tina's earlier work with ike turner what album of tina's besides private dancer had any impact.

As far as mathew knowles. Pleeeeze!
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phunkdaddy said:

I believe Tina Turner has been far more popular in Europe than Aretha Franklin.

Rodya24 said:

Make that "Tina Turner has been far more popular in Europe than Aretha Franklin!" and you're right!

Rodya24 said:

There you go with that europe stuff again. Why wouldn't tina be more popular
in europe? She fuggin lives there!! So you basically by making this statement
already conceded that aretha franklin is far more relevant than tina here in
the states. I lost respect for tina years ago in the early 80's when she made
the statement that R&B was boring and that's why she turned to rock yet her
roots were R&B. She is from missisippi and her fake ass goes to europe and all
of a sudden she has an accent. I think the press is probably blowing it all out of a proportion but beyonce should have just simply introduced tina as the legendary tina turner versus giving her the queen title which has been aretha's moniker forever and a day and aretha is not even my favorite female vocalist but she is far better than tina.

Scorpion said:

The diss wasn't at Tina. It was at Beyonce for not knowing her music history like she should.

It's basically Aretha telling Beyonce to get her facts right that Aretha is THE only female artist that was giving a real crown!

NOT Tina, NOT Chaka, NOT Cher, NOT Diana, NOT Barbara, NOT Whitney, NOT Janet, NOT Mariah, NOT Madonna, NOT Kylie, NOT Mary J, or any other diva in between the time lines.

Vanilli said:

TonyVanDam said:

But didn't a few people say this was basically a quote or near-word for word intro that Santana had used previously? Whatever the case, I don't think it was meant to be disrespectful to Aretha and I don't think anyone would have noticed if Aretha hadn't mentioned it. It's a shame that such a performance has now been reduced to bickering and featured on the evening news. I really think Aretha had no need to be offended.

For every one so called hit tina has. I could name 3 by aretha.

JackieBlue said:

I don't believe Beyonce meant any harm toward Aretha neither.

But Aretha is infamous for having a big professional ego. Beyonce has seen & heard Aretha's ego at Level 1, but poor Luther Vandross has seen & heard it at Level 5!
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TonyVanDam said:

I've never been an Aretha fan, but her ego makes her even more foul. Just like Usher and Kanye. It's not attractive. Watching it again, she didn't call Tine the queen of soul. She simply called her the queen and that she had all the elements she was listing prior. Aretha doesn't have all those elements

Would anybody be talking about that whispers look alike if he hadn't butt
in as manager of destiny's child?

Whatever Matt, just keep your mouth shut and keep pimping your daughter you freak.

Janfriend said:

I think the "queen" (and "king") titles are overrated. Why can't they just call them legends and leave it at that because at the end of the day that's what they are regardless of our opinions.
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I would think for all the hate the org has for Beyonce, some of ya'll would've been on Re-Re's side in that other thread

bboy87 said:

I know, right? Everybody agreed she was FAT! But evil Beyonce said something and they pitch a bitch. I mean, ok, she's a legend but Aretha was still damn wrong to do that. She shouldn't let that affect her especially since she's 350 lbs closer to knocking on heaven's door at damn young 65.

Timmy84 said:

She got roasted, but at the same time, she was dissing Beyonce for not knowing her facts.

Either way, fuck Beyonce

bboy87 said:

Yeah, Aretha will kick Beyonce's ass in the vocal department anyways. Tina kicked her ass dancing so much that Beyonce about stepped on Tina's foot.

But how's this for ENERGY:

Just a day after the Grammys, she went over to Russia and performed a nine-song set for a Russian notable's son and I think got paid in the millions too! And she's almost 70!?! That's why I worship Tina, no one sold concert records the way she did or performed the way she did and the fact that she is still performing in some level and doing a damn fine job deserves to be called "the queen" of whatever!
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This is some of the dumbest shit I've read in a long time.

bboy87 said:

That sums it up quite nicely.

bboy87 said:

Yeah.

fuck Beyonce. hard