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Thread started 02/12/08 10:58am

badujunkie

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Madonna is gonna be pissed! Mariah's new date!

is only one or two weeks off from hers, yes?
I'll leave it alone babe...just be me
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Reply #1 posted 02/13/08 7:15am

SoulAlive

I just heard Mariah's new single.Madonna has nothing to worry about lol
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Reply #2 posted 02/13/08 7:42am

VoicesCarry

SoulAlive said:

I just heard Mariah's new single.Madonna has nothing to worry about lol


That's true, unless Madonna somehow squeezes out an even bigger POS.
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Reply #3 posted 02/13/08 7:49am

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VoicesCarry said:

SoulAlive said:

I just heard Mariah's new single.Madonna has nothing to worry about lol


That's true, unless Madonna somehow squeezes out an even bigger POS.
[Edited 2/13/08 7:42am]


She does have a record...
I'm not mad at you, I'm mad at the dirt.
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Reply #4 posted 02/13/08 8:20am

badujunkie

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VoicesCarry said:

SoulAlive said:

I just heard Mariah's new single.Madonna has nothing to worry about lol


That's true, unless Madonna somehow squeezes out an even bigger POS.
[Edited 2/13/08 7:42am]


the bigger POS is named Justin. already clear that she will.
I'll leave it alone babe...just be me
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Reply #5 posted 02/13/08 8:47am

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It's not like Mariah's going to have three weeks of huge sales. I'm sure she'll debut high, and sell well,but by week three, I can't imagine that she'll still be moving 300-400+ copies a week.

Madge should have nothing to worry about.
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Reply #6 posted 02/13/08 11:26am

badujunkie

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Axchi696 said:

It's not like Mariah's going to have three weeks of huge sales. I'm sure she'll debut high, and sell well,but by week three, I can't imagine that she'll still be moving 300-400+ copies a week.

Madge should have nothing to worry about.


yeah but mariah has a lot higher staying power on the charts in the US...i guess all that Madonna cares is that she debuts number 1 in US/UK and 39039093 other countries simultaneously, but she won't want to trail off while mariah stays in the top 5...trust, Mariah is the one bitch Madonna sweats
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Reply #7 posted 02/14/08 12:22am

SoulAlive

Mariah will sell more copies in the US,but I think Madonna will sell more copies everywhere else.She has a worldwide audience,so she doesn't have to focus solely on the US.
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Reply #8 posted 02/14/08 1:57am

SoulAlive

Axchi696 said:

It's not like Mariah's going to have three weeks of huge sales. I'm sure she'll debut high, and sell well,but by week three, I can't imagine that she'll still be moving 300-400+ copies a week.

Madge should have nothing to worry about.


Exactly.Let's face it,nobody sells alot of records in the US these days,unless your name is Justin,Kanye or Beyonce lol These days,for longtime artists,it's really all about debuting at Number One (which she will),then concentrating on sales outside the US.She makes most of her money from touring,anyway.

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Reply #9 posted 02/15/08 10:10am

LiveToTell86

I don't think the 2 week gap between them is a coincidence. I'm sure both labels want another #1 albums. So Madonna will get her 7th while Mariah will be her 6th. The female artist with most #1 albums on Billboard is Barbra Streisand, she has 8. Both Mariah & Madonna will probably overtake her in some years.
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Reply #10 posted 02/15/08 8:15pm

purpledusk971

SoulAlive said:

Axchi696 said:

It's not like Mariah's going to have three weeks of huge sales. I'm sure she'll debut high, and sell well,but by week three, I can't imagine that she'll still be moving 300-400+ copies a week.

Madge should have nothing to worry about.


Exactly.Let's face it,nobody sells alot of records in the US these days,unless your name is Justin,Kanye or Beyonce lol These days,for longtime artists,it's really all about debuting at Number One (which she will),then concentrating on sales outside the US.She makes most of her money from touring,anyway.

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Mariah's last album has atually sold more copies than Beyonce's.
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Reply #11 posted 02/15/08 8:30pm

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I dont think an urban Madonna album can compete with an urban Mariah album..and on top of that in 08? just saying.
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Reply #12 posted 02/15/08 8:40pm

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That said I dont think Madonna's album will be Urban, she using urban producers to get that asthetic on her sound, but from what I hear its just a Madonna album with less 'dance music' dynamics in the production.
But Someone needs to re produce/re record her vocals from what I have heard, cause Pharrell and Timb are use to working with r&b/soul singers
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Reply #13 posted 02/16/08 2:38am

TheMightyCeles
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I didn't realize that Pop music was a contest.
But now that I think about it,
y'all are right.
It is.

Here's hoping that if neither one of these 2 divas wins,
that someone else does.
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Reply #14 posted 02/16/08 11:08am

SoulAlive

twink69 said:

That said I dont think Madonna's album will be Urban, she using urban producers to get that asthetic on her sound, but from what I hear its just a Madonna album with less 'dance music' dynamics in the production.
But Someone needs to re produce/re record her vocals from what I have heard, cause Pharrell and Timb are use to working with r&b/soul singers


I agree with this.There's alot of talk about Madonna making an "urban album",but I think it will most likely be a pop/dance album with an R&B vibe throughout.Pharrell and Timbaland are both capable of a pop-oriented/dance sound.It just depends on the artist they're working with.
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Reply #15 posted 02/16/08 11:18am

midnightmover

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I didn't realize that Pop music was a contest.
But now that I think about it,
y'all are right.
It is.

Here's hoping that if neither one of these 2 divas wins,
that someone else does.

“The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Reply #16 posted 02/16/08 2:23pm

TANKAEFC

Why not? In this day, age and mentality, competition seems to be the most important thing on the planet, so this makes perfect sense.
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Reply #17 posted 02/16/08 3:03pm

alphastreet

Madonna wishes more than ever that Mariah killed herself already doesn't she?

I'm glad they're both coming back and I'll buy both of their albums, but it's going to be exciting to see Madonna crush Mariah again, as she is the bigger star worldwide, and though Mariah is still big, it's mostly in the US and Japan, unlike what her stupid fans believe.
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Reply #18 posted 02/16/08 3:53pm

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im hoping Mariah comes back with something good and sweet..i hope she does!
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that we riddled some middleman who didn't do diddily"--BP
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Reply #19 posted 02/16/08 4:45pm

lowkey

SoulAlive said:

Axchi696 said:

It's not like Mariah's going to have three weeks of huge sales. I'm sure she'll debut high, and sell well,but by week three, I can't imagine that she'll still be moving 300-400+ copies a week.

Madge should have nothing to worry about.


Exactly.Let's face it,nobody sells alot of records in the US these days,unless your name is Justin,Kanye or Beyonce lol These days,for longtime artists,it's really all about debuting at Number One (which she will),then concentrating on sales outside the US.She makes most of her money from touring,anyway.

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mariah's last album sold more then all 3 of them...i think alicia keys have already passed beyonce in just about 3 months. kanye had ridiculous 1st week sales but tailed off (did he hit 3 million yet)?, justin sold about 4 million and beyonce a lil over 3...this after both of them released 20 singles, went on tour, and signed on to sell any product that can be legally sold.these current pop 'superstars' record sales are not all that impressive when you compare them to the icons of the past.
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Reply #20 posted 02/17/08 3:45pm

SoulAlive

midnightmover said:

TheMightyCelestial said:

I didn't realize that Pop music was a contest.
But now that I think about it,
y'all are right.
It is.

Here's hoping that if neither one of these 2 divas wins,
that someone else does.



lol still hoping for a Cyndi Lauper comeback,eh? wink
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Reply #21 posted 02/17/08 3:53pm

LightOfArt

The only Mariah song I like is her cover of Bringing On The Hearthbreak.
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Reply #22 posted 02/17/08 6:29pm

midnightmover

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midnightmover said:




lol still hoping for a Cyndi Lauper comeback,eh? wink

Nah, just hoping for a good album. Cyndi's got as much chance of landing a hit as Madonna's got of making a decent movie. Cyndi has talent, which is an occupational hazard in today's industry. You've only got to look at the huge effort Island is making to revive The Muppet's career to know talent is a low priority with record companies. wink
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Reply #23 posted 02/17/08 10:52pm

khemseraph

Axchi696 said:

It's not like Mariah's going to have three weeks of huge sales. I'm sure she'll debut high, and sell well,but by week three, I can't imagine that she'll still be moving 300-400+ copies a week.

Madge should have nothing to worry about.

madonna doesnt sell quite as much as mariah these days.not in the us anyway.the emancipation of mimi sold some 6 mill.confessions on a dancefloor sold 1.3mill
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Reply #24 posted 02/17/08 10:55pm

khemseraph

alphastreet said:

Madonna wishes more than ever that Mariah killed herself already doesn't she?

I'm glad they're both coming back and I'll buy both of their albums, but it's going to be exciting to see Madonna crush Mariah again, as she is the bigger star worldwide, and though Mariah is still big, it's mostly in the US and Japan, unlike what her stupid fans believe.

Madonna crush Mariah..dont know about that one
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Reply #25 posted 02/18/08 6:11am

SoulAlive

midnightmover said:

SoulAlive said:



lol still hoping for a Cyndi Lauper comeback,eh? wink

Nah, just hoping for a good album. Cyndi's got as much chance of landing a hit as Madonna's got of making a decent movie. Cyndi has talent, which is an occupational hazard in today's industry. You've only got to look at the huge effort Island is making to revive The Muppet's career to know talent is a low priority with record companies. wink


She might as well just do a dance/club album and focus on an audience that would actually support her wink
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Reply #26 posted 02/19/08 5:55am

SoulAlive

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Axchi696 said:

It's not like Mariah's going to have three weeks of huge sales. I'm sure she'll debut high, and sell well,but by week three, I can't imagine that she'll still be moving 300-400+ copies a week.

Madge should have nothing to worry about.

madonna doesnt sell quite as much as mariah these days.not in the us anyway.the emancipation of mimi sold some 6 mill.confessions on a dancefloor sold 1.3mill


Mariah sells more records here in the States,but Madonna still sells alot of records worldwide.'Confessions On A Dancefloor' went to Number One in 29 different countries."Hung Up" was her biggest international hit in years.
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Reply #27 posted 02/19/08 6:40am

khemseraph

SoulAlive said:

khemseraph said:


madonna doesnt sell quite as much as mariah these days.not in the us anyway.the emancipation of mimi sold some 6 mill.confessions on a dancefloor sold 1.3mill


Mariah sells more records here in the States,but Madonna still sells alot of records worldwide.'Confessions On A Dancefloor' went to Number One in 29 different countries."Hung Up" was her biggest international hit in years.

but how did mariah do last time around worldwide:(from wikipedia)
The Emancipation of Mimi reached number two in Canada, where it was certified three times platinum for sales in excess of 300,000.[19][11] She received two times platinum certifications in UK, where it charted on number seven, and in Hong Kong. Additionally the album was certified Platinum in Japan, Australia[20], Singapore, Taiwan, Malaysia, South Korea, Philippines, Thailand and in New Zealand, peaking on number twelve there, and Gold in Brazil, Germany, France and in Italy.[14][21][22] Eight months after its release, the album reached the one million mark in Europe and was certified with an IFPI Platinum Europe Award.[23] At the end of 2005, the IFPI reported that Carey's album had sold 10 million copies globally and was the second best-selling album of the year after Coldplay's X&Y.[24][25]
dont get me wrong ..PLEASE dont get me wrong.Madonna is the 2nd best thing to life next to Prince as far as i am concerned.i just think mariah has better selling power right now
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Reply #28 posted 02/19/08 6:44am

SoulAlive

khemseraph said:

SoulAlive said:



Mariah sells more records here in the States,but Madonna still sells alot of records worldwide.'Confessions On A Dancefloor' went to Number One in 29 different countries."Hung Up" was her biggest international hit in years.

but how did mariah do last time around worldwide:(from wikipedia)
The Emancipation of Mimi reached number two in Canada, where it was certified three times platinum for sales in excess of 300,000.[19][11] She received two times platinum certifications in UK, where it charted on number seven, and in Hong Kong. Additionally the album was certified Platinum in Japan, Australia[20], Singapore, Taiwan, Malaysia, South Korea, Philippines, Thailand and in New Zealand, peaking on number twelve there, and Gold in Brazil, Germany, France and in Italy.[14][21][22] Eight months after its release, the album reached the one million mark in Europe and was certified with an IFPI Platinum Europe Award.[23] At the end of 2005, the IFPI reported that Carey's album had sold 10 million copies globally and was the second best-selling album of the year after Coldplay's X&Y.[24][25]
dont get me wrong ..PLEASE dont get me wrong.Madonna is the 2nd best thing to life next to Prince as far as i am concerned.i just think mariah has better selling power right now



LOL...on the Mariah Carey new album thread,I was just saying that we need to get away from these "competition" threads where we keep pitting one artist against the other.I actually like Mariah,so I'm not gonna continue this back-and-forth.I wish her and Madonna alot of luck with their new albums.
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