um...there was life before Nirvana...lol

there's no such thing as alternative music

Nirvana sucks balls

By the way Jello Biafra thinks Morrisey sucks.

heartbeatocean said:

it has been devolving since, well... DEVO!

Cinnie said:

Everything should be labelled before or after Devo.

that picture sux (not the Devo one!)

thekidsgirl said:

But accurate in describing modern rock radio post-1992.

sextonseven said:

Where does punk fit into it?

thekidsgirl said:

Punk gets played on the radio? Surely you cannot mean pop bands like Good Charlotte.

sextonseven said:

of course not! But I did forget we were talking modern rock radio...

I thought this is a serious thread about acts like
- The Velvet Underground
- The Stooges
- Yoko Ono
- Patti Smith...

Cheek said:

Maybe you should write on this topic?

Dance said:

... and there we have it

FuNkeNsteiN said:

What do you think of a watered-down clone like Puddle Of Mudd then?

I love how Chad Kroeger is portrayed as the knuckle-dragging cave rocker. Seems about right to me.

Kurt's standing suspiciously upright in that picture.

Cinnie said:

Okay, let's take this on a serious level!

Most people think of 90's grunge bands like Nirvana, Jane's Addiction or Soundgarden or 80's-90's bands like The Cure or R.E.M. when they hear the word "alternative", though these bands became very popular at the time (and since then) so we could say they became "mainstreem" somehow. In my opinion such thing as alternative rock is a kind of music that doesn't fit into the "mainstreem" and remains in the underground sceen.

So what is alternative really and where did it came from?

I think it all started in the 60's with avantgarde and proto-punk; with bands like The Velvet Underground (The Velvet Underground & Nico 1967, White Light/White Heat 1968), The Stooges (The Stooges 1969, Fun House 1970, Raw Power 1973) and mostly overlooked artists like Nico (The Marble Index 1969) or Yoko Ono (Plastic Ono Band 1970, Fly 1971). They all had a huge influence on later artists (like Patti Smith or The B-52's) and the future of rock music especially 70's-80's punk which later turned into the so-called alternative.

So what do you think?

Well I think those are the Roots of alternative music, and the stuff you were referring to in the 80s was the actual Alternative music.

Cinnie said:

People...I really can get some of the best rants ever from people! Madonna taught me well...

heartbeatocean said:

definitely, though I do agree with the sequence of events depicted that picture

Actually it should be pointed out that is not depicting alternative music, it's depicting Alternative Music

Cheek said:

I think it's music made by left wing people

Dewrede said:

OR LEFT HAND PEOPLE

COUGH COUGH KURT!

COUGH

SQUEAK

Cheek said:

I don't think that works either.

On Free Form FM radio in the 60s (a very popular format at the time), those artists, and others like them, got plenty of play.
I looked at Free Form FM radio as an addition to instead of an alternative to Top 40 AM radio since I listened to both.

To me, this "alternative" label smells more like some music biz marketing ploy to create a "big tent" for potential customers that were not purchasers of "mainstream" artists.

Now i'm sure there are folks that genuinely enjoy the material that's been termed "alternative".
There's also that "hipness" quotient for those that need to say things like, "I'm not into corporate music."

I'm sure many have run into those hipper than thou music store persons that are more than willing to rattle off a slew of bands that nobody's heard of but them and give you the hairy eyeball if you don't wreckanize.

Funny stuff.


tA

Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431

Ridiculous.

Let us not forget the full name of Devo is Devolution. They're in a class by themselves music. Like most groups that came from the Punk era , they set the mode and still effect pop culture today. Alot of you aren't aware that some members of of Devo write the music for commercials, and cartoons.

theAudience said:

Thank you for responding!

Could you recommend some of the bands you'refferring to? I have a huge admiration of 60's/early 70's underground music.

Thank you again!