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Fergie talks about recording "Beat it"

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #1 posted 02/07/08 5:51am

SoulAlive

hmmm
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Reply #2 posted 02/07/08 6:07am

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Ugh...
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Reply #3 posted 02/07/08 8:59am

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Can all these wack pop stars just leave Michael Jackson's catalog alone? "Put down the MJ record and walk away slowly!" lol
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Reply #4 posted 02/07/08 9:04am

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That blond haired turd needs to go somewhere and sit her sorry ass dooooown. brick
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #5 posted 02/07/08 9:16am

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Even though I don't care much for "Beat It 2008," props to Fergie for being a go-getter with regards to getting herself on Thriller 25. And if Michael liked it, which he apparently did, that matters for something to me.

Thank you for sharing this interview. Shocked there isn't a video interview of her somewhere talking about it, with all the Thriller 25 MySpace TV promo going on.
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Reply #6 posted 02/07/08 9:43am

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Fergie's rendition of Beat It is equal to somebody pissing into your ear mad
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Reply #7 posted 02/07/08 9:45am

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bboy87 said:

Fergie's rendition of Beat It is equal to somebody pissing into your ear mad


Michael liked it, and Thriller was his baby, so as much as I agree with you, I'm gonna keep quiet about it. If it was good enough for him, I'll keep to myself.
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Reply #8 posted 02/07/08 9:52am

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Fergie's rendition of Beat It is equal to somebody pissing into your ear mad

Aw it can't be that bad. Yeah its different, I don't personally go for it but I know some people that do... lol

Go Fergie. thumbs up!
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Reply #9 posted 02/07/08 9:56am

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Vanilli said:

bboy87 said:

Fergie's rendition of Beat It is equal to somebody pissing into your ear mad


Michael liked it, and Thriller was his baby, so as much as I agree with you, I'm gonna keep quiet about it. If it was good enough for him, I'll keep to myself.


Like Michael is the arbiter of good taste or something? The dude recorded Invincible! lol Michael is NOT doing this project because of its inherent artistic value.
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Reply #10 posted 02/07/08 10:03am

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Yeah its a very line to walk between "artistic" and "cashing in" and just trying to be relevant to an audience that might not know you.

I still feel that missed the boat big time on this project, not because of Akon and Fergie and those remixes. But for the whole nostalgia of the album. I mean its the biggest album of all time, it influenced many, and for its anniversary all you can pull out is a demo and some remixes? Now for someone like Prince this would not shock me, he is not really gonna re-issue anything for anniversary purposes, though "Purple Rain" the dvd did get a re-issue, musically Prince didnt give us the "purple rain" ablum the way it originally was, a double record, but i was glad that he didnt give us, "Lets Go Crazy" featuring Akon.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #11 posted 02/07/08 10:03am

midnightmover

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Vanilli said:



Michael liked it, and Thriller was his baby, so as much as I agree with you, I'm gonna keep quiet about it. If it was good enough for him, I'll keep to myself.


Like Michael is the arbiter of good taste or something? The dude recorded Invincible! lol Michael is NOT doing this project because of its inherent artistic value.
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The more pertinent point is that Michael is a fucking liar! Michael did not select these artists because he likes them. He selected them because he wants to reach the kids and show how relevant he is. Therefore, no matter how badly they fucked up, Michael would say nice things about them. Haven't people figured out how phony he is yet? Check out The Home Movies program. He tells his colleagues privately how much he hates touring, then he faces the camera with a look of total sincerity and says "I love touring". Even his employees laughed because he was so shamelessly lying. If they hadn't laughed, he would have carried on lying and the fans would have believed it. Michael obviously included that in the program because he thought it was funny, but it actually revealed a lot more than he realised.
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Reply #12 posted 02/07/08 10:12am

Empress

Fergie and the rest of the BEP make me sick.
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Reply #13 posted 02/07/08 10:30am

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midnightmover said:

VoicesCarry said:



Like Michael is the arbiter of good taste or something? The dude recorded Invincible! lol Michael is NOT doing this project because of its inherent artistic value.
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The more pertinent point is that Michael is a fucking liar! Michael did not select these artists because he likes them. He selected them because he wants to reach the kids and show how relevant he is. Therefore, no matter how badly they fucked up, Michael would say nice things about them. Haven't people figured out how phony he is yet? Check out The Home Movies program. He tells his colleagues privately how much he hates touring, then he faces the camera with a look of total sincerity and says "I love touring". Even his employees laughed because he was so shamelessly lying. If they hadn't laughed, he would have carried on lying and the fans would have believed it. Michael obviously included that in the program because he thought it was funny, but it actually revealed a lot more than he realised.
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I wouldn't say because he made a joke, he is phony. I am really quick to reserve judgements about Michael, simply because I remember back in 2004, everyone was saying the worst about Michael. (And I mean down-right shitty..) and people took it as truth.

Fast forward to a year later, Michael was vindicated and a lot of those people were shown to have been lying to cash in. I'm not saying it isn't possible that Michael isn't SOMETIMES phony, however, I don't think it is fair to label him phony because of that.

That being said, yes this was a more commercial venture. However, if it reaches the kids and reminds them why he matters, so be it.

It isn't like people should be resentful for Michael doing things this way. Him doing this sort of thing dates back to like "The Legend Continues" VHS. Anyone remember that? Tons of people, who mattered back then, praising him. He also did the same thing with "The One" back in like 2003/04. He figures by sending these programs (and now anniversary albums) with people who matter to the kids, he will expand his audience. To some degree, I suppose it is true.

I don't think him being business minding and wanting his audience to grow makes him phony. It just makes him crude, which probably had to something to do with why THRILLER IS THE BIGGEST SELLING ALBUM IN THE FIRST PLACE. It wasn't about, because it was the most fabulous artistically amazing thing he did. (Dangerous or HIStory take those prizes.) It is because, he was in touch with marketing and business. He was the first to make important music videos. As Q said recently, "Michael and MTV road each other to glory!"

Thriller was about business back then and what better way to honor that, then by making it about business once again?
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Reply #14 posted 02/07/08 10:38am

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Vanilli said:

midnightmover said:


The more pertinent point is that Michael is a fucking liar! Michael did not select these artists because he likes them. He selected them because he wants to reach the kids and show how relevant he is. Therefore, no matter how badly they fucked up, Michael would say nice things about them. Haven't people figured out how phony he is yet? Check out The Home Movies program. He tells his colleagues privately how much he hates touring, then he faces the camera with a look of total sincerity and says "I love touring". Even his employees laughed because he was so shamelessly lying. If they hadn't laughed, he would have carried on lying and the fans would have believed it. Michael obviously included that in the program because he thought it was funny, but it actually revealed a lot more than he realised.
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I wouldn't say because he made a joke, he is phony. I am really quick to reserve judgements about Michael, simply because I remember back in 2004, everyone was saying the worst about Michael. (And I mean down-right shitty..) and people took it as truth.

Fast forward to a year later, Michael was vindicated and a lot of those people were shown to have been lying to cash in. I'm not saying it isn't possible that Michael isn't SOMETIMES phony, however, I don't think it is fair to label him phony because of that.

That being said, yes this was a more commercial venture. However, if it reaches the kids and reminds them why he matters, so be it.

It isn't like people should be resentful for Michael doing things this way. Him doing this sort of thing dates back to like "The Legend Continues" VHS. Anyone remember that? Tons of people, who mattered back then, praising him. He also did the same thing with "The One" back in like 2003/04. He figures by sending these programs (and now anniversary albums) with people who matter to the kids, he will expand his audience. To some degree, I suppose it is true.

I don't think him being business minding and wanting his audience to grow makes him phony. It just makes him crude, which probably had to something to do with why THRILLER IS THE BIGGEST SELLING ALBUM IN THE FIRST PLACE. It wasn't about, because it was the most fabulous artistically amazing thing he did. (Dangerous or HIStory take those prizes.) It is because, he was in touch with marketing and business. He was the first to make important music videos. As Q said recently, "Michael and MTV road each other to glory!"

Thriller was about business back then and what better way to honor that, then by making it about business once again?

eek

Way too much twisted bullshit in here for me to waste time with it, so I'll just focus on the first sentence in bold there. Watch the clip again. Michael did not make a joke. One of his employees said that he should try and sound less negative about touring, and he said to them "Okay, but you all know the truth. I hate touring". Then he faced the camera and did what his advisor had suggested, but rather than just sound less negative, he went straight into his insincere "love, love, love" mode. Everyone in the room cracked up because it was so patently false. It just shows how phony Michael's warm and cosy platitudes are, which is why you would have to be NAIVE AS HELL to believe he really likes Fergie's rendition of "Beat It".
“The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Reply #15 posted 02/07/08 10:39am

Timmy84

It's okay if he likes it doesn't mean I should tho. hah!
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Reply #16 posted 02/07/08 10:39am

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midnightmover said:

Vanilli said:



I wouldn't say because he made a joke, he is phony. I am really quick to reserve judgements about Michael, simply because I remember back in 2004, everyone was saying the worst about Michael. (And I mean down-right shitty..) and people took it as truth.

Fast forward to a year later, Michael was vindicated and a lot of those people were shown to have been lying to cash in. I'm not saying it isn't possible that Michael isn't SOMETIMES phony, however, I don't think it is fair to label him phony because of that.

That being said, yes this was a more commercial venture. However, if it reaches the kids and reminds them why he matters, so be it.

It isn't like people should be resentful for Michael doing things this way. Him doing this sort of thing dates back to like "The Legend Continues" VHS. Anyone remember that? Tons of people, who mattered back then, praising him. He also did the same thing with "The One" back in like 2003/04. He figures by sending these programs (and now anniversary albums) with people who matter to the kids, he will expand his audience. To some degree, I suppose it is true.

I don't think him being business minding and wanting his audience to grow makes him phony. It just makes him crude, which probably had to something to do with why THRILLER IS THE BIGGEST SELLING ALBUM IN THE FIRST PLACE. It wasn't about, because it was the most fabulous artistically amazing thing he did. (Dangerous or HIStory take those prizes.) It is because, he was in touch with marketing and business. He was the first to make important music videos. As Q said recently, "Michael and MTV road each other to glory!"

Thriller was about business back then and what better way to honor that, then by making it about business once again?

eek

Way too much twisted bullshit in here for me to waste time with it, so I'll just focus on the first sentence in bold there. Watch the clip again. Michael did not make a joke. One of his employees said that he should try and sound less negative about touring, and he said to them "Okay, but you all know the truth. I hate touring". Then he faced the camera and did what his advisor had suggested, but rather than just sound less negative, he went straight into his insincere "love, love, love" mode. Everyone in the room cracked up because it was so patently false. It just shows how phony Michael's warm and cosy platitudes are, which is why you would have to be NAIVE AS HELL to believe he really likes Fergie's rendition of "Beat It".


Sure in this clip he lied, but in various interviews he has expressed his dislike of touring. And fans know that.
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midnightmover said:


eek

Way too much twisted bullshit in here for me to waste time with it, so I'll just focus on the first sentence in bold there. Watch the clip again. Michael did not make a joke. One of his employees said that he should try and sound less negative about touring, and he said to them "Okay, but you all know the truth. I hate touring". Then he faced the camera and did what his advisor had suggested, but rather than just sound less negative, he went straight into his insincere "love, love, love" mode. Everyone in the room cracked up because it was so patently false. It just shows how phony Michael's warm and cosy platitudes are, which is why you would have to be NAIVE AS HELL to believe he really likes Fergie's rendition of "Beat It".


Sure in this clip he lied, but in various interviews he has expressed his dislike of touring. And fans know that.

That's not the point. The point is in the clip he had that totally sincere tone of voice at the same time as he was lying through his teeth. That tells you something about his character. He could have just moderated his tone a bit to be less negative, but instead he went totally over the top and started gushing about how he "loves" touring. That shows you how capable he is of faking these warm and cosy statements.
“The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Reply #18 posted 02/07/08 10:45am

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He could also be saying he likes it not to hurt Fergie's feelings. hah!
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Reply #19 posted 02/07/08 10:47am

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midnightmover said:

Rodya24 said:



Sure in this clip he lied, but in various interviews he has expressed his dislike of touring. And fans know that.

That's not the point. The point is in the clip he had that totally sincere tone of voice at the same time as he was lying through his teeth. That tells you something about his character. He could have just moderated his tone a bit to be less negative, but instead he went totally over the top and started gushing about how he "loves" touring. That shows you how capable he is of faking these warm and cosy statements.


Of course he does.
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He could also be saying he likes it not to hurt Fergie's feelings. hah!

nod Either way, I wouldn't believe it for a second.
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Reply #21 posted 02/07/08 10:55am

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midnightmover said:

Rodya24 said:



Sure in this clip he lied, but in various interviews he has expressed his dislike of touring. And fans know that.

That's not the point. The point is in the clip he had that totally sincere tone of voice at the same time as he was lying through his teeth. That tells you something about his character. He could have just moderated his tone a bit to be less negative, but instead he went totally over the top and started gushing about how he "loves" touring. That shows you how capable he is of faking these warm and cosy statements.

He couldn't even hold back the laughter lol I also sensed sarcasm when he said it
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midnightmover said:


That's not the point. The point is in the clip he had that totally sincere tone of voice at the same time as he was lying through his teeth. That tells you something about his character. He could have just moderated his tone a bit to be less negative, but instead he went totally over the top and started gushing about how he "loves" touring. That shows you how capable he is of faking these warm and cosy statements.

He couldn't even hold back the laughter lol I also sensed sarcasm when he said it
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Wow, you are truly deluded. Watch it again. He only started laughing when THEY STARTED LAUGHING. And the reason they started laughing was because he was so blatantly lying.
“The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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midnightmover said:

bboy87 said:


He couldn't even hold back the laughter lol I also sensed sarcasm when he said it
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Wow, you are truly deluded. Watch it again. He only started laughing when THEY STARTED LAUGHING. And the reason they started laughing was because he was so blatantly lying.

hrmph
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Reply #24 posted 02/08/08 2:40am

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I'm scared to listen to Fergie's version of "Beat It" boxed There are just some songs that you shouldn't mess with.
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Reply #25 posted 02/08/08 5:42am

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I'm scared to listen to Fergie's version of "Beat It" boxed There are just some songs that you shouldn't mess with.


Amen to THAT ill
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I'm scared to listen to Fergie's version of "Beat It" boxed There are just some songs that you shouldn't mess with.

It sounds like total and complete shit. Stay as far away from it as possible.
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midnightmover said:

bboy87 said:


He couldn't even hold back the laughter lol I also sensed sarcasm when he said it
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Wow, you are truly deluded. Watch it again. He only started laughing when THEY STARTED LAUGHING. And the reason they started laughing was because he was so blatantly lying.

rolleyes
SOOOOO, whats the point? we all know that MJ is not an angel, so is prince and alot of artists, what are you trying to prove? he has been performing and touring since he was a child, Im sure he is sick of it.
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So she asked Will to do it?

adds Fergie and Will I Am to hit list
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Reply #29 posted 02/08/08 5:20pm

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So she asked Will to do it?

adds Fergie and Will I Am to hit list


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