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Thread started 02/04/08 9:15pm

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Micheal Jackson-SMILE

Cute video!






http://www.youtube.com/wa...5pnDDDzpqg
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Reply #1 posted 02/04/08 9:32pm

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Great video.

Some of David Foster's work with MJ.
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Reply #2 posted 02/04/08 9:32pm

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Maybe one day the official video will finally be released.
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Reply #3 posted 02/04/08 11:15pm

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bboy87 said:

Maybe one day the official video will finally be released.


Was there an original video?
eek
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Reply #4 posted 02/05/08 1:59am

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marnifrances said:

bboy87 said:

Maybe one day the official video will finally be released.


Was there an original video?
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eek eek I´d love to see it too. I love the song. It´s one of MJ´s best.

I love "The Kid". Chaplin was truly a genius.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #5 posted 02/05/08 7:41am

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marnifrances said:

bboy87 said:

Maybe one day the official video will finally be released.


Was there an original video?
eek

Yeah, Smile was to be the last single for the HIStory album and a video had been shot. Then Blood On The Dancefloor was released, and the single was cancelled. I remember Michael wasn't too happy about that decision
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Reply #6 posted 02/05/08 7:57am

Vanilli

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bboy87 said:

marnifrances said:



Was there an original video?
eek

Yeah, Smile was to be the last single for the HIStory album and a video had been shot. Then Blood On The Dancefloor was released, and the single was cancelled. I remember Michael wasn't too happy about that decision


Michael isn't happy about a lot of stuff and about 80% of the time, he is right. neutral
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Reply #7 posted 02/05/08 1:04pm

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dag said:

marnifrances said:



Was there an original video?
eek

eek eek I´d love to see it too. I love the song. It´s one of MJ´s best.

I love "The Kid". Chaplin was truly a genius.

It's not from "The Kid" tho.
Charlie Chaplin wrote "Smile" for "Modern times" in 1936.
/peace Manki
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Reply #8 posted 02/05/08 2:58pm

Timmy84

bboy87 said:

marnifrances said:



Was there an original video?
eek

Yeah, Smile was to be the last single for the HIStory album and a video had been shot. Then Blood On The Dancefloor was released, and the single was cancelled. I remember Michael wasn't too happy about that decision


That whole thing with HIStory and Blood on the Dance Floor was a mess.
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Reply #9 posted 02/05/08 3:31pm

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i don't like this song.. and thankful he did not produce it... its a song he remade.. but anyways... the song made me laugh.. cause it was soo extremely cheesy...

smile when your heart is breaking.... that almost sounds psychotic..
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Reply #10 posted 02/05/08 3:41pm

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TotalAlisa said:

i don't like this song.. and thankful he did not produce it... its a song he remade.. but anyways... the song made me laugh.. cause it was soo extremely cheesy...

smile when your heart is breaking.... that almost sounds psychotic..


I agree, and it was a weird way to end HIStory. 80% of the record was him being direct, on edge and upfront, and that track was like something from a Disney movie.

That being said, the single rakes in big bucks from fans all over. I know it is rare but I never understood the fuss or having the "Smile" LP. It was just the same version. It wasn't like he resang it, or like there was some wonderful B-Side out-take.
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Reply #11 posted 02/05/08 3:49pm

MikeMatronik

HIStory is the second best MJ album and the first that I purchased with my own money!
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Reply #12 posted 02/05/08 3:58pm

Vanilli

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MikeMatronik said:

HIStory is the second best MJ album and the first that I purchased with my own money!


I got mine from the tooth fairy the day before it was released.
How my parents made that ship happen, I'll never know.
Errr I mean the tooth fairy.

And correction: HIStory is the first best MJ album biggrin
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Reply #13 posted 02/05/08 6:00pm

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Vanilli said:

TotalAlisa said:

i don't like this song.. and thankful he did not produce it... its a song he remade.. but anyways... the song made me laugh.. cause it was soo extremely cheesy...

smile when your heart is breaking.... that almost sounds psychotic..


I agree, and it was a weird way to end HIStory. 80% of the record was him being direct, on edge and upfront, and that track was like something from a Disney movie.

If by "weird," you mean "perfect," then yes. That song is as forceful a statement as anything else on the album. "Here's all the shit that's going on with me, but in the end I'll still be smiling regardless." That's Michael in a nutshell AFAIC.
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Reply #14 posted 02/05/08 6:08pm

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AlexdeParis said:

Vanilli said:



I agree, and it was a weird way to end HIStory. 80% of the record was him being direct, on edge and upfront, and that track was like something from a Disney movie.

If by "weird," you mean "perfect," then yes. That song is as forceful a statement as anything else on the album. "Here's all the shit that's going on with me, but in the end I'll still be smiling regardless." That's Michael in a nutshell AFAIC.

Yep. The album started with "Scream" and ended with a "Smile" biggrin
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Reply #15 posted 02/05/08 6:09pm

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AlexdeParis said:

Vanilli said:



I agree, and it was a weird way to end HIStory. 80% of the record was him being direct, on edge and upfront, and that track was like something from a Disney movie.

If by "weird," you mean "perfect," then yes. That song is as forceful a statement as anything else on the album. "Here's all the shit that's going on with me, but in the end I'll still be smiling regardless." That's Michael in a nutshell AFAIC.


Nope, by weird, I meant, just that, weird.

I think a better ending would have been "Stranger In Moscow."
He coulda placed "Smile" following "Childhood." They both sound a like
and would have followed each other nicely.

On another note, "Little Susie" is one of the most chilling MJ songs..EVER.
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Reply #16 posted 02/05/08 6:14pm

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Vanilli said:

AlexdeParis said:


If by "weird," you mean "perfect," then yes. That song is as forceful a statement as anything else on the album. "Here's all the shit that's going on with me, but in the end I'll still be smiling regardless." That's Michael in a nutshell AFAIC.


Nope, by weird, I meant, just that, weird.

I think a better ending would have been "Stranger In Moscow."
He coulda placed "Smile" following "Childhood." They both sound a like
and would have followed each other nicely.

On another note, "Little Susie" is one of the most chilling MJ songs..EVER.

And to think he wrote it when he was only 21 eek
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Reply #17 posted 02/05/08 6:19pm

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Vanilli said:

AlexdeParis said:


If by "weird," you mean "perfect," then yes. That song is as forceful a statement as anything else on the album. "Here's all the shit that's going on with me, but in the end I'll still be smiling regardless." That's Michael in a nutshell AFAIC.


Nope, by weird, I meant, just that, weird.

I think a better ending would have been "Stranger In Moscow."
He coulda placed "Smile" following "Childhood." They both sound a like
and would have followed each other nicely.

There is no way the album's best track deserved to be buried at the end. It's too long for that. And I have no idea what "Childhood" song you're talking about... whistling
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Reply #18 posted 02/05/08 6:23pm

VoicesCarry

MJ fans are aware Charlie Chaplin composed Smile, right?
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Reply #19 posted 02/05/08 6:26pm

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MJ fans are aware Charlie Chaplin composed Smile, right?


Yes.
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Reply #20 posted 02/05/08 11:31pm

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manki said:

dag said:


eek eek I´d love to see it too. I love the song. It´s one of MJ´s best.

I love "The Kid". Chaplin was truly a genius.

It's not from "The Kid" tho.
Charlie Chaplin wrote "Smile" for "Modern times" in 1936.
/peace Manki

I know, but the footage used for this video is from that film, isn´t it?
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #21 posted 02/05/08 11:41pm

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dag said:

manki said:


It's not from "The Kid" tho.
Charlie Chaplin wrote "Smile" for "Modern times" in 1936.
/peace Manki

I know, but the footage used for this video is from that film, isn´t it?

Yes biggrin
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Reply #22 posted 02/06/08 12:00am

DANGEROUSx

All the songs on History were like, angry emotional songs.. and then Smile comes along. biggrin
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Reply #23 posted 02/06/08 8:09am

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DANGEROUSx said:

All the songs on History were like, angry emotional songs.. and then Smile comes along. biggrin


I personally think a better ending would have been "HIStory" or "Stranger In Moscow." I'm telling you guys "Smile" woulda followed "Childhood" perfectly, then it coulda kicked into "You Are Not Alone" and the r&b vibe of "2 Bad" would blended nicely. Oh well.

HIStory is still amazing, even with the non-blending order of songs. biggrin
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Reply #24 posted 02/06/08 8:34am

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DANGEROUSx said:

All the songs on History were like, angry emotional songs.. and then Smile comes along. biggrin


I personally think a better ending would have been "HIStory" or "Stranger In Moscow." I'm telling you guys "Smile" woulda followed "Childhood" perfectly, then it coulda kicked into "You Are Not Alone" and the r&b vibe of "2 Bad" would blended nicely. Oh well.

HIStory is still amazing, even with the non-blending order of songs. biggrin


Its always the tracklist MJ gets wrong,lol

Especially Invincible!
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Reply #25 posted 02/06/08 8:48am

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DANGEROUSx said:

Vanilli said:



I personally think a better ending would have been "HIStory" or "Stranger In Moscow." I'm telling you guys "Smile" woulda followed "Childhood" perfectly, then it coulda kicked into "You Are Not Alone" and the r&b vibe of "2 Bad" would blended nicely. Oh well.

HIStory is still amazing, even with the non-blending order of songs. biggrin


Its always the tracklist MJ gets wrong,lol

Especially Invincible!


True that. Except with Invincible, half the album itself was wrong. LOL lol
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Reply #26 posted 02/06/08 9:39am

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Nice till 1:45.

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Reply #27 posted 02/06/08 9:41am

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DANGEROUSx said:



Its always the tracklist MJ gets wrong,lol

Especially Invincible!


True that. Except with Invincible, half the album itself was wrong. LOL lol

Aww, It wasn't that bad.. kinda. lol
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Reply #28 posted 02/06/08 10:00am

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DANGEROUSx said:

Vanilli said:



I personally think a better ending would have been "HIStory" or "Stranger In Moscow." I'm telling you guys "Smile" woulda followed "Childhood" perfectly, then it coulda kicked into "You Are Not Alone" and the r&b vibe of "2 Bad" would blended nicely. Oh well.

HIStory is still amazing, even with the non-blending order of songs. biggrin


Its always the tracklist MJ gets wrong,lol

Are you two competing to see who can be the dumbest? I don't even like History, but even I could see ending such a bitter album with a track like "Smile" was a masterstroke. It's MJ reminding himself not to lose his joy in living. Ending the album with "Stranger In Moscow" would've been the DUMBEST MOVE POSSIBLE! Thank God you're not one of his advisors. That would end the whole album on a defeatist note. As great as the song is, it would've been a downer to end the album that way.

Also, what was great about ending with "Smile" was it was IRONIC. It showed Michael had not lost his sense of humour. After all that recrimination and vitriol, "Smile" was the perfect way to undercut all the seriousness and show that life must go on, even after great despair. That was the whole point. Believe me, Michael knew what he was doing when he ended the album with that song.
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Reply #29 posted 02/06/08 11:59am

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I wouldnt be so harsh. I think sometimes - like Prince - you need to really listen harder to understand exactly what points mj is making on his songs - listen again to Blood on the Dancefloor and understand the point he is making. The History album started with Scream and ended with Smile , what does that say??
Ending with Stranger in Moscow would be the worst possible ending the album could have, and placing Smile next to Childhood would be a mess as both songs are very different sentiments.
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