AlexdeParis said:

I never bought 'Victory' either I heard it and didn't like it at all.The songs "Torture" and "State Of Shock" are okay,but the rest of the album is a snoozefest.

Destiny is the best one, then comes Triumph I think. On Destiny MJ wrote all but one song and he was such a young and fres talent. On Triumph you can hear he didn't want to work on it. Well, his songs are still great, but he allreay had solo success and he knew his work with his brothers limited him.
Victory is really bad. The two Michael jackson songs are boring, State Of Shock, well I like the version with Freddie Mercury much more!

SoulAlive said:

Forget Victory! The crime here is not buying Destiny! It's my second-favorite behind Triumph.

AlexdeParis said:

I know! That's why I was confessing! Please forgive and absolve me of my sin!

SoulAlive said:

"Victory" is their weakest album ever. The only songs I like on there are "State of Shock", "One More Chance", and "Torture".

Y'all stop hating on Victory. The only track I don't play from that release is the Mike joint "Be Not Always." Everything else from Marlon's "Body" to even Tito's "We Can Change the World" and Randy "The Hurt" gets spins.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

For real, it's not the worst.

"Victory" is their weakest album yet. I mean especially after releasing such a solid album like "Triumph" then to go release that turd of an album that was "Victory" was a big step down for them in terms of the quality of their music. I hardly ever listen to that album. Every once in a while I'll play "One More Chance" but that's about it. The album has very little replay value.

Cinnamon234 said:

I agree,'Victory' is garbage.Michael should have never participated in that mess.'Triumph' was truly the last great Jacksons album.

Cinnie said:

Well... only if you count 2300 Jackson Street.

AlexdeParis said:

Why wouldn't you?

MJ fans...have you heard any more info on these remasters? Is this being discussed on the MJ forums? Will there be any bonus tracks?

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Thank you for the news.

SoulAlive said:

MJ fans, make your presence on the org valuable and keep us updated plz.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Apart from Victory and 2300 Jackson St, these are great albums, including Goin Places. These albums just don't get the credit they deserve. Albums like Destiny and Triumph are better than most of Michael's solo work, IMO.

As far as the Live album...I don't like the way they pushed the tempos so much. But the performances are cool, though. I hope this remaster includes the full-length concert, but I doubt it. Most live albums are overdubbed in the studio, and the Jacksons prolly aren't going to get off their lazy asses long enough to do this for a show that was almost 30 years ago.

Cinnie said:

A lot of MJ fans actually don't give a shit about the Jacksons.

rebelsoldier said:

So ...

Destiny, Triumph, Victory, Bad, Dangerous, Invincible, Control. These Jacksons have some issues with power. LOL

These will be nice to finally have on CD, remastered. I had Destiny, Triumph, and Victory as a kid.

Cinnie said:

Have you heard it?

AlexdeParis said:

I'm sayin, that's one I actually own.

Cinnie said:

What would possess you to buy that album when you don't have Destiny?!
[Edited 3/12/08 3:52am]

AlexdeParis said:

Availability in the used cd bin b/w actual nostalgia for a time I remember?

I kinda always thought we would eventually see a remastered edition too, when they kept making those Jacksons best-ofs.

rebelsoldier said:

I know. They prefer the screwed up/peter pan/King of Pop/ Heal the world Michael Jackson. That's why you can't have an indepth discussion with them about anything pre-thriller.
[Edited 3/13/08 12:58pm]

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Have you ever noticed that the chorus to "Body" sounds alot like "Wanna Be Startin Something"? Not the lyrics,the melody.

I can't wait to get these, Triumph & Destiny especially

I wonder if there will be any bonus tracks

Cinnamon234 said:

Yeah, I agree. Victory is probably the only Jacksons album I hardly ever listen to.

whatsgoingon said:

.....and most of them think that HIStory is his best album too.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

I can't front, I got Victory when I was 8 back in '84 and played it everyday. I will be getting the cd.