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Reply #60 posted 02/07/08 10:30am

LightOfArt

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Same with MJ fans.


not all MJ fans wink i can admit that he is now a fucking freak.but theres no denying the mans talent.its just sum MJ fans will think of him as a god and wont take 1 bad word agaisnt him. infact half of them are as weird as he is nod but then again im very protective of Prince. I had to smack my my Tom (who is 1 of them MJ protectors)for winding me up all night going on about how shit P is and he went on and on and on and on.....so i just punched him. Luckly for me tho he didnt remember the next day cuz he was that drunk.of course i did inform him a week later you should have seen his face lol


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Reply #61 posted 02/07/08 11:51am

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Madonna hasn't got raw talent like Michael, but she sure is smarter than him when it comes to conducting every aspect of her life.

Madonna continues to be the original "Spice Girl".
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Reply #62 posted 02/07/08 1:29pm

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Some of the comments here are really laughable, the question was clear, Is madonna better than Mj ? the freaking answer is NO.. some of you are tripping and trying to downplay anything relating Mj's life or career with the lamest excuses..Just answer the question, Madonna is not a better songwriter, composer, producer, dancer, singer, vocalist ,and she is not even smarter than him business-wise.

we are not talking about the careers of both these days, Judge the two based on their talent which some that madonna really lacks , some orgers here saying that madonna is a better when it comes to conducting every aspect of life but we are talking about ARTISTY here and being a great musician not about the aspect of their personal life, everyone is free to do whatever they want in their personal life , just because madonna maybe handled her personal life better does't make her a greater artist than MJ.....
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Reply #63 posted 02/07/08 1:35pm

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purplecam said:


eek eek eek Madonna fans are mess, for real. If Madonna let out the loudest fart known to man, they'd swear it was the greatest song ever written. rolleyesdisbelief


Same with MJ fans.

Absolutetly. Madonna and MJ fans are flat out scary as fuck, for real.
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Reply #64 posted 02/07/08 1:36pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

Some of the comments here are really laughable, the question was clear, Is madonna better than Mj ? the freaking answer is NO.. some of you are tripping and trying to downplay anything relating Mj's life or career with the lamest excuses..Just answer the question, Madonna is not a better songwriter, composer, producer, dancer, singer, vocalist ,and she is not even smarter than him business-wise.

we are not talking about the careers of both these days, Judge the two based on their talent which some that madonna really lacks , some orgers here saying that madonna is a better when it comes to conducting every aspect of life but we are talking about ARTISTY here and being a great musician not about the aspect of their personal life, everyone is free to do whatever they want in their personal life , just because madonna maybe handled her personal life better does't make her a greater artist than MJ.....



Madonna is a better performance artist than Michael. Pop in any tour from Michael since at least the Victory tour and you're bascially watching every tour he's done.


Madonna on the other hand has really grown in terms of performance. From a basic show in 85 with the Virgin Tour thorugh her over the top theatrical performances of Confessions you'll never see the same show. the arrangments are different, the dancing is different, the costumes are different, the messages are differnt, and you can see the amount of time she's put into each show. MJ just coasts.
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Reply #65 posted 02/07/08 1:39pm

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ehuffnsd said:

seeingvoices12 said:

Some of the comments here are really laughable, the question was clear, Is madonna better than Mj ? the freaking answer is NO.. some of you are tripping and trying to downplay anything relating Mj's life or career with the lamest excuses..Just answer the question, Madonna is not a better songwriter, composer, producer, dancer, singer, vocalist ,and she is not even smarter than him business-wise.

we are not talking about the careers of both these days, Judge the two based on their talent which some that madonna really lacks , some orgers here saying that madonna is a better when it comes to conducting every aspect of life but we are talking about ARTISTY here and being a great musician not about the aspect of their personal life, everyone is free to do whatever they want in their personal life , just because madonna maybe handled her personal life better does't make her a greater artist than MJ.....



Madonna is a better performance artist than Michael. Pop in any tour from Michael since at least the Victory tour and you're bascially watching every tour he's done.


Madonna on the other hand has really grown in terms of performance. From a basic show in 85 with the Virgin Tour thorugh her over the top theatrical performances of Confessions you'll never see the same show. the arrangments are different, the dancing is different, the costumes are different, the messages are differnt, and you can see the amount of time she's put into each show. MJ just coasts.


confuse

So, she alone is responsible for all her shows? Or is she hiring the "right" people? Or are her shows bloated affairs?

I could not give a shit if MJ does the same shit over and over. What I am tired of is his not singing live and putting his dancing before his singing. I will take the Bad World Tour and the Triumph Tour over anything Madonna and her cohorts have to offer.
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Reply #66 posted 02/07/08 1:52pm

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Rodya24 said:

ehuffnsd said:




Madonna is a better performance artist than Michael. Pop in any tour from Michael since at least the Victory tour and you're bascially watching every tour he's done.


Madonna on the other hand has really grown in terms of performance. From a basic show in 85 with the Virgin Tour thorugh her over the top theatrical performances of Confessions you'll never see the same show. the arrangments are different, the dancing is different, the costumes are different, the messages are differnt, and you can see the amount of time she's put into each show. MJ just coasts.


confuse

So, she alone is responsible for all her shows? Or is she hiring the "right" people? Or are her shows bloated affairs?

I could not give a shit if MJ does the same shit over and over. What I am tired of is his not singing live and putting his dancing before his singing. I will take the Bad World Tour and the Triumph Tour over anything Madonna and her cohorts have to offer.

Madonna is the creator and excuitive producer of all of her tours.
Staging and MD has been various people through out the course of time but all say that final say is Madonna.

looks take a look a the evolution of their live stage shows
Billie Jean






Like A Virgin




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Reply #67 posted 02/07/08 1:55pm

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What I see in those Madonna YouTube clips is bloated nonsense. Something MJ did for the HIStory World Tour as well.

What I want to see is a great singer and dancer (not even dancing for that matter) on a stage with great stage presence and connection to the audience.

I do not want to pay to see a broadway show. Moreover, if I wanted to be visually and aurally entertained, opera is ten million times better than anything Madonna or any of her followers could do.
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Reply #68 posted 02/07/08 1:57pm

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What I see in those Madonna YouTube clips is bloated nonsense. Something MJ did for the HIStory World Tour as well.

What I want to see is a great singer and dancer (not even dancing for that matter) on a stage with great stage presence and connection to the audience.

I do not want to pay to see a broadway show. Moreover, if I wanted to be visually and aurally entertained, opera is ten million times better than anything Madonna or any of her followers could do.

you haven't watched the clips all the way through. the Girlie Show clip is my favorite. and it's just Madonna on stage for the most part.
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Reply #69 posted 02/07/08 2:00pm

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ehuffnsd said:

Rodya24 said:

What I see in those Madonna YouTube clips is bloated nonsense. Something MJ did for the HIStory World Tour as well.

What I want to see is a great singer and dancer (not even dancing for that matter) on a stage with great stage presence and connection to the audience.

I do not want to pay to see a broadway show. Moreover, if I wanted to be visually and aurally entertained, opera is ten million times better than anything Madonna or any of her followers could do.

you haven't watched the clips all the way through. the Girlie Show clip is my favorite. and it's just Madonna on stage for the most part.


If you like it, that's cool. It's just not my thing. Each to his own.
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Reply #70 posted 02/07/08 3:28pm

LightOfArt

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I didn't know she did stadiums for the Blond Ambition Tour. is it Europe?
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Reply #71 posted 02/07/08 3:38pm

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falloff I love this shit. Any Michael Jackson topic - even ones meant as a joke - will actually produce serious debates and responses.
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Reply #72 posted 02/07/08 3:47pm

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ehuffnsd said:

Rodya24 said:



confuse

So, she alone is responsible for all her shows? Or is she hiring the "right" people? Or are her shows bloated affairs?

I could not give a shit if MJ does the same shit over and over. What I am tired of is his not singing live and putting his dancing before his singing. I will take the Bad World Tour and the Triumph Tour over anything Madonna and her cohorts have to offer.

Madonna is the creator and excuitive producer of all of her tours.
Staging and MD has been various people through out the course of time but all say that final say is Madonna.


Like A Virgin





????? confused
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Reply #73 posted 02/07/08 4:22pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

falloff I love this shit. Any Michael Jackson topic - even ones meant as a joke - will actually produce serious debates and responses.

lol lol
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Reply #74 posted 02/07/08 4:23pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

falloff I love this shit. Any Michael Jackson topic - even ones meant as a joke - will actually produce serious debates and responses.

lol lol

lol Well, I started a joke thread about his SOCKS, and straight away with the neutral
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Reply #75 posted 02/07/08 6:35pm

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NDRU said:

I like Michael Jackson better than Michael Jackson


Me too.
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Reply #76 posted 02/07/08 6:38pm

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This question is impossible to answer with any objectivity. So I won't. Do I like her more? Yes.
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Reply #77 posted 02/07/08 8:33pm

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LightOfArt said:

ehuffnsd said:





I didn't know she did stadiums for the Blond Ambition Tour. is it Europe?

The Japan and European leges of BAT were Stadium.
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Reply #78 posted 02/08/08 12:59am

SoulAlive

"Like A Virgin" evolving from one tour to the next:






My favorite is the Girlie Show performance lol I love what she did to that song! Hilarious!!
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Reply #79 posted 03/04/08 9:46am

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if mj is that freak why u talk about him, why u feel insecure from him, why mj sold 4 times more albums then madonna and prince, why thriller biggest album, why guiness awarded mj most successful artist of all time, why bad was once biggest tour, broken by dangerous then broken by history tour, why mj has most billboard numbers ones, why his old records sell more then new ones on prince n madonna, who was named artist of century n mellinuim in majore awards, who is japans most selling artist, who donated more money then any else, who 5 number singles in one album, list will go on lol, mj lovers dont have to argue, stats talk, world talks, i been mj fan in pakistan since 7 years today i found prince in a singer too lol, any ways enjoys folks, madona n prince are better lol
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Reply #80 posted 03/04/08 9:56am

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As a musical act, I like a lot more of Michael's music than Madonna's. As a person, I like Madonna much more because she's a slut. Michael turns me off because he hangs with kids, which ain't cool at all. Now, if Michael would come out of the closet, become a slut, drop the brats, and get some real men old enough to have pubic hair, he would far surpass Madonna. lol
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Reply #81 posted 03/06/08 8:33am

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Nobody is better than Michael Jackson.
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Reply #82 posted 03/06/08 8:41am

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Everybody is better than Michael Jackson.
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Reply #83 posted 03/06/08 4:01pm

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Rodya24 said:

Axchi696 said:

Better? That's too subjective.

Do I enjoy her music more? Absolutely.

Let's face it, neither one of them are Mozart or Beethoven; and when I see these crazed MJ fans going off on these tangents about the brilliance of his work, I usually go confuse . To me, Michael Jackson was something I grew out of years ago. It'd be like watching Rugrats or reading Berenstain Bears books.


I go confuse when people call Prince a musical genius as well.

But I believe Michael Jackson is much more talented than Madonna vocally, musically, etc. I attend a performing arts school and in my history of modern popular music classes, MJ casts quite a large shadow. Much more so than Madonna.

But again this is popular music.


Good answer. I had singing lessons and in my early ones I was given Madonna songs because they were so easy vocally and musically.

And it depends what music you like. Madonna is a good businesswoman but not overly talented. She makes catchy tunes and can dance fairly well.

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Madonna fans are mess, for real. If Madonna let out the loudest fart known to man, they'd swear it was the greatest song ever written.


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Reply #84 posted 03/06/08 5:57pm

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I thought so as a kid until I was a teenager and discovered more michael work than what I knew when I was younger and automatically decided he's wayyyy better. Still love maddy though.
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Reply #85 posted 03/06/08 6:05pm

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TheWifey said:

Nobody is better than Michael Jackson.

Axchi696 said:

Everybody is better than Michael Jackson.


Wow, such contradicting posts. hammer

Michael Jackson is still a childish freak who never puts out new music (he remixed a 25-year-old album). rolleyes

And not all Madonna fans are like that, I think her new single "4 Minutes" sounds like crap. barf SHIT-HOP alert! cop
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Reply #86 posted 03/06/08 6:14pm

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Michael Jackson is still a childish freak who never puts out new music (he remixed a 25-year-old album). rolleyes

What's wrong with retiring or at least slowing down a bit? He has been going since he was like 8 years old (since he was 11, professionally). So I think he's entitled to at least slow down, if not retire. Btw, he's not the only artist who's re-issued one of his classic albums to commemorate an anniversary of that album's release. Keep in mind, he just remixed a few of the songs and put them of the album as bonus tracks; Prince re-recorded 1999 and called it "the new master".
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Reply #87 posted 03/06/08 6:56pm

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raveun2thejoyfantastic said:


Wow, such contradicting posts. hammer

Michael Jackson is still a childish freak who never puts out new music (he remixed a 25-year-old album). rolleyes

And not all Madonna fans are like that, I think her new single "4 Minutes" sounds like crap. barf SHIT-HOP alert! cop


The childish freak is still 10X more musically talented than Madonna though hahah hahahah hahahahahahahahahhahah!!!!!











Seriously, I like Madonna a lot actually and love her new song, but ONLY a Madonna fan would even ask if she's better or more talented than Michael Jackson but ridiculous statements like that are to be expected I guess because i've been to her boards before and her fans are some of the most miserable, bitter people I have ever come across. Always hating on everyone and everything. I don't think there's a more negative or more hateful fanbase out there. Anyway, this is pretty pointless because people like who they like at the end of the day but nothing said about Michael in this thread or anywhere else is gonna change my mind about him. He always has been and always will be #1 for me, but like I said i'm a Madonna fan too so I'm looking forward to her new album as well. 2008 looks like it's gonna be a great year for music.
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Reply #88 posted 03/06/08 7:10pm

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Of course Madonna is way better. MJ aint shiggity. No I take that back about MJ, he is shiggity. I heart 2 hate MJ
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Reply #89 posted 03/07/08 2:40am

SoulAlive

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if mj is that freak why u talk about him, why u feel insecure from him, why mj sold 4 times more albums then madonna and prince, why thriller biggest album, why guiness awarded mj most successful artist of all time, why bad was once biggest tour, broken by dangerous then broken by history tour, why mj has most billboard numbers ones, why his old records sell more then new ones on prince n madonna, who was named artist of century n mellinuim in majore awards, who is japans most selling artist, who donated more money then any else, who 5 number singles in one album, list will go on lol, mj lovers dont have to argue, stats talk, world talks, i been mj fan in pakistan since 7 years today i found prince in a singer too lol, any ways enjoys folks, madona n prince are better lol


Why did you have to re-vive this pointless thread? rolleyes
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