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Reply #30 posted 02/06/08 2:11am

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Vanilli said:

VoicesCarry said:

How long is she going to play the helpless victim for?


Thank you. This twit needs to start taking some responsibility for her actions.
I really wish she would release a CD, and it would flop, and the fans would disappear. The best thing that could happen to her is if she lost her fame, lost her status and had to be NORMAL.

Don't feel sorry for her! Feel sorry for her kids!

I can't figure out why Blackout wasn't a flop. My roommate has it, so I've ended up hearing the whole thing. Repeatedly. Everyone was raving when it was released about how it was the greatest thing since sliced Beatles, but it's crap. It can't be possible that all the tabloid hype sold this thing....can it? confused
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Reply #31 posted 02/06/08 3:45am

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What I'm trying to understand is the mindset of a mother that has privy to all this information, and didn't do anything about it sooner including opening a can of whoopass on him mad . This is not a situation in which her kid is married to the dude, making him legally her next of kin and therefore holding all the cards to control her. He is an outsider, a newly minted one at that who just showed up out of nowhere. Call me crazy, but after a few well initiated moves on the legal front, the next shot the paparazzi would have had would of been me going after this sicko to get my child with a crowbar in my hand confused



Britney had very publicly cut her mother out of her life. What's she supposed to do?


I don't considered any side having BRITNEY'S best interest at heart.

The family could have filed for Britney's involuntary committal a long time ago. What stopped them from organizing this "secret intervention" six months ago? Nothing. No... they preferred to contact Dr. Phil. confused eek I think both this manager dude and "the family" are "messes" for different reasons.

I'm not sure either one of the them should be given an long-term control over Britney. Neither side has proved to have the most clear judgment.

ETA

And Kevin Federline?? He's another one.. Nobody can tell me that piece of shit didn't have a clue Britney was out of her mind early-on, but he took advantage of the situation. It's too damn bad Britney had kids with the dude. That guy is also a jerk. But she doesn't have much choice but to deal with him now.

This situation is just sad all the way around. I hate to see "sick" people taken advantage of--even rich celebrities. And now there are innocent kids involved.
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Reply #33 posted 02/06/08 4:30am

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meow85 said:

Vanilli said:



Thank you. This twit needs to start taking some responsibility for her actions.
I really wish she would release a CD, and it would flop, and the fans would disappear. The best thing that could happen to her is if she lost her fame, lost her status and had to be NORMAL.

Don't feel sorry for her! Feel sorry for her kids!

I can't figure out why Blackout wasn't a flop. My roommate has it, so I've ended up hearing the whole thing. Repeatedly. Everyone was raving when it was released about how it was the greatest thing since sliced Beatles, but it's crap. It can't be possible that all the tabloid hype sold this thing....can it? confused


It's a good album. You're obviously just not a pop fan right? Just because YOU thought it ought to have failed (and compared to her other albums it DID fail miserably) doesn't mean it's bad to everyone else. It missed out on #1 if that makes you feel any better.
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Reply #34 posted 02/06/08 4:45am

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and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #35 posted 02/06/08 5:26am

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OMG! Is that him!!?
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Reply #36 posted 02/06/08 7:42am

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Raze said:




Britney had very publicly cut her mother out of her life. What's she supposed to do?


I don't considered any side having BRITNEY'S best interest at heart.

The family could have filed for Britney's involuntary committal a long time ago. What stopped them from organizing this "secret intervention" six months ago? Nothing. No... they preferred to contact Dr. Phil. confused eek I think both this manager dude and "the family" are "messes" for different reasons.

I'm not sure either one of the them should be given an long-term control over Britney. Neither side has proved to have the most clear judgment.

ETA

And Kevin Federline?? He's another one.. Nobody can tell me that piece of shit didn't have a clue Britney was out of her mind early-on, but he took advantage of the situation. It's too damn bad Britney had kids with the dude. That guy is also a jerk. But she doesn't have much choice but to deal with him now.

This situation is just sad all the way around. I hate to see "sick" people taken advantage of--even rich celebrities. And now there are innocent kids involved.
[Edited 2/6/08 4:41am]


Why blame Kevin in this? When Britney was romantically involved with Kevin, she didn't exhibit anything delusional of this magnitude. This all started to happen after she divorced him and it's gone further downhill as timed has passed. Why is this everyone else's fault, but Britney? I also disagree that Britney's family does not have her best interest at heart. They have staged multiple interventions for Britney which resulted in that first stint to rehab last year. She is the one that publicly alienated herself from her family. You can't help anyone that does not want to be helped.
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Reply #37 posted 02/06/08 7:44am

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Isel said:



I don't considered any side having BRITNEY'S best interest at heart.

The family could have filed for Britney's involuntary committal a long time ago. What stopped them from organizing this "secret intervention" six months ago? Nothing. No... they preferred to contact Dr. Phil. confused eek I think both this manager dude and "the family" are "messes" for different reasons.

I'm not sure either one of the them should be given an long-term control over Britney. Neither side has proved to have the most clear judgment.

ETA

And Kevin Federline?? He's another one.. Nobody can tell me that piece of shit didn't have a clue Britney was out of her mind early-on, but he took advantage of the situation. It's too damn bad Britney had kids with the dude. That guy is also a jerk. But she doesn't have much choice but to deal with him now.

This situation is just sad all the way around. I hate to see "sick" people taken advantage of--even rich celebrities. And now there are innocent kids involved.
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Why blame Kevin in this? When Britney was romantically involved with Kevin, she didn't exhibit anything delusional of this magnitude. This all started to happen after she divorced him and it's gone further downhill as timed has passed. Why is this everyone else's fault, but Britney? I also disagree that Britney's family does not have her best interest at heart. They have staged multiple interventions for Britney which resulted in that first stint to rehab last year. She is the one that publicly alienated herself from her family. You can't help anyone that does not want to be helped.




like Ive suspected all along, its likely she regrets fucking up her relationship with JT more than anything....
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Reply #38 posted 02/06/08 8:35am

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meow85 said:


I can't figure out why Blackout wasn't a flop. My roommate has it, so I've ended up hearing the whole thing. Repeatedly. Everyone was raving when it was released about how it was the greatest thing since sliced Beatles, but it's crap. It can't be possible that all the tabloid hype sold this thing....can it? confused


It's a good album. You're obviously just not a pop fan right? Just because YOU thought it ought to have failed (and compared to her other albums it DID fail miserably) doesn't mean it's bad to everyone else. It missed out on #1 if that makes you feel any better.


I haven't really liked anything she's done before, but I gotta admit: it's a brilliantly produced pop album. I don't think it has too much to do with her skill, though. "Get Naked" is some weird, avant garde pop.
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Reply #39 posted 02/06/08 9:35am

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I'm just loving the fact there are new fantastic Brit stories everyday! Finally a reason to be interested in her! horns

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Reply #40 posted 02/06/08 10:05am

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I'm just loving the fact there are new fantastic Brit stories everyday! Finally a reason to be interested in her! horns

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I heard she slipped on a used condom in her bathroom and cracked her head on the lavatory .
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Reply #41 posted 02/06/08 10:42am

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I heard she slipped on a used condom in her bathroom and cracked her head on the lavatory .


Yeah right! As if Brit still uses toilet

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Reply #42 posted 02/06/08 2:21pm

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VoicesCarry said:

How long is she going to play the helpless victim for?


Thank you. This twit needs to start taking some responsibility for her actions.
I really wish she would release a CD, and it would flop, and the fans would disappear. The best thing that could happen to her is if she lost her fame, lost her status and had to be NORMAL.

Don't feel sorry for her! Feel sorry for her kids!



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Reply #43 posted 02/06/08 8:25pm

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I can't figure out why Blackout wasn't a flop. My roommate has it, so I've ended up hearing the whole thing. Repeatedly. Everyone was raving when it was released about how it was the greatest thing since sliced Beatles, but it's crap. It can't be possible that all the tabloid hype sold this thing....can it? confused


It's a good album. You're obviously just not a pop fan right? Just because YOU thought it ought to have failed (and compared to her other albums it DID fail miserably) doesn't mean it's bad to everyone else. It missed out on #1 if that makes you feel any better.

I quite like a lot of pop music, actually. I'm a card-carrying Backstreet Boys fan, for God's sake. And yet I still think Blackout was a steaming pile of shit. It's awful, and no amount of shiny production and trendy beats can change that.
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Reply #44 posted 02/06/08 8:30pm

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It's a good album. You're obviously just not a pop fan right? Just because YOU thought it ought to have failed (and compared to her other albums it DID fail miserably) doesn't mean it's bad to everyone else. It missed out on #1 if that makes you feel any better.

I quite like a lot of pop music, actually. I'm a card-carrying Backstreet Boys fan, for God's sake. And yet I still think Blackout was a steaming pile of shit. It's awful, and no amount of shiny production and trendy beats can change that.


Another orger acting as though their opinions are fact.

The lead single got to number 3 on the official US charts and the 2nd single is at #2 in various countries.

And for all the people who say "Oh, it's hype" the people that buy the song have to hear it. Have to listen to it and spend their money on it. I don't think people instantly go blind for a song or album just because there's hype surrounding it, especially if they're paying for it with their own money.

Maybe, just MAYBE, people like what they hear.
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Reply #45 posted 02/06/08 8:35pm

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What a mess disbelief. I feel sorry for Britney, hopefully she is getting the help she obviously needs. I wish her all the best.
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Reply #46 posted 02/06/08 8:42pm

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I quite like a lot of pop music, actually. I'm a card-carrying Backstreet Boys fan, for God's sake. And yet I still think Blackout was a steaming pile of shit. It's awful, and no amount of shiny production and trendy beats can change that.


Another orger acting as though their opinions are fact.

The lead single got to number 3 on the official US charts and the 2nd single is at #2 in various countries.

And for all the people who say "Oh, it's hype" the people that buy the song have to hear it. Have to listen to it and spend their money on it. I don't think people instantly go blind for a song or album just because there's hype surrounding it, especially if they're paying for it with their own money.

Maybe, just MAYBE, people like what they hear.


And one of the most popular TV shows with the consistently highest ratings in recent years is American Idol, and the U.S. citizenry voted that jackass Bush back into Presidency in 2004. There's no accounting for the public's taste. Just because something's popular does not mean it's any good. Haven't you heard of the Accomodation Effect? It's a basic and widely recognized phenomena in psychology that states that the more often a person is exposed to a certain stimuli, the likelihood increases that they are to have one of two reactions to it. They will either cease to notice it, or they will develop a liking for it, regardless of their original opinion of the stimulus.

Sorry, but your argument is baseless. And that "other orger" you referred to was me. Pay attention.
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Reply #47 posted 02/06/08 8:45pm

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Why blame Kevin in this? When Britney was romantically involved with Kevin, she didn't exhibit anything delusional of this magnitude. This all started to happen after she divorced him and it's gone further downhill as timed has passed. Why is this everyone else's fault, but Britney? I also disagree that Britney's family does not have her best interest at heart. They have staged multiple interventions for Britney which resulted in that first stint to rehab last year. She is the one that publicly alienated herself from her family. You can't help anyone that does not want to be helped.




like Ive suspected all along, its likely she regrets fucking up her relationship with JT more than anything....



I agree with Horatio. Justin ending their relationship really fucked this chick up before Kevin got his hands on her and just made it worse. She's obviously desperate to find a man if she has to date a paparazzo. People saying she's mental all of a sudden. She was crazy back in 2002 after Justin dumped her cheating ass (and yes, I do believe she cheated on him) and then started dating grungy Colin Farrell and supposedly even grungier Fred Durst. ewww barf JT must be one hell of a guy...even Cameron Diaz lost her mind a little after they broke up (that fight at the Prince hosted Oscar after party in 2006 disbelief ).

I agree with Scorpion 100%. Why isn't anyone putting some blame on Ms. Spears? She's the one who refused to take her meds until she was forced to after she was legally committed to a psych ward. From some reports I read, one of the drugs that her 'manager'/mooching sidekick was slipping into her food was a drug used to control Bi-Polar disorder. Sad he had to medicate her like I medicate the dogs at my job...by hiding the pill in a treat and tricking them into eating it, but she obviously wasn't willing to take them herself. Well, it doesn't really matter now, because he has a restraining order and she just got released today and last I heard is back to her old habits of hanging with her paparazzo boytoy and getting her picture taken by 80 peopl. Well, at least now, hopefully her meds have been regulated properly.
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Reply #48 posted 02/06/08 8:45pm

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Another orger acting as though their opinions are fact.

The lead single got to number 3 on the official US charts and the 2nd single is at #2 in various countries.

And for all the people who say "Oh, it's hype" the people that buy the song have to hear it. Have to listen to it and spend their money on it. I don't think people instantly go blind for a song or album just because there's hype surrounding it, especially if they're paying for it with their own money.

Maybe, just MAYBE, people like what they hear.


And one of the most popular TV shows with the consistently highest ratings in recent years is American Idol, and the U.S. citizenry voted that jackass Bush back into Presidency in 2004. There's no accounting for the public's taste. Just because something's popular does not mean it's any good. Haven't you heard of the Accomodation Effect? It's a basic and widely recognized phenomena in psychology that states that the more often a person is exposed to a certain stimuli, the likelihood increases that they are to have one of two reactions to it. They will either cease to notice it, or they will develop a liking for it, regardless of their original opinion of the stimulus.

Sorry, but your argument is baseless. And that "other orger" you referred to was me. Pay attention.


Blah, blah, blah. Still doesn't make your opinion fact.

And the other orger was alphastreet, unless that's you in another account?
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Reply #49 posted 02/06/08 10:10pm

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the whole thing is sad. this young mother needs to be left alone to work out her problems and get her children back and just be a mom, nothing more.
that's advice for her but more for the parasites in her life and the parasites who make money off her wreckless lifestyle.
give her a chance to breathe and then maybe be a good mom.
the media is not helping the situation, not at all.
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Reply #50 posted 02/06/08 11:08pm

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Lock the doors people, she out.

and another media circus show begins.

At this point of it all, if she doesn't lay low and seek an alternative lifestyle away from the media and the paps, if she continues this attention whoring I have no sympathy for her. I don't watch CNN or MSNBC to hear britney coverage, thats for real news.

She needs to GO AWAY.
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Reply #51 posted 02/07/08 12:22am

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that is fucking awful disbelief

the media is blaming her but it is really the Muslim dude's fault.


who is this guy? the guy who is always on tv talking for her and acting like her new BF?


HE'S BRITNEY'S "HOWARD K. STERN"!!!!!
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Reply #52 posted 02/07/08 1:58am

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Lock the doors people, she out.

and another media circus show begins.

At this point of it all, if she doesn't lay low and seek an alternative lifestyle away from the media and the paps, if she continues this attention whoring I have no sympathy for her. I don't watch CNN or MSNBC to hear britney coverage, thats for real news.

She needs to GO AWAY.


Are you serious? She's out of the hospital already??

That's just layers of wrong disbelief
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Reply #53 posted 02/07/08 4:41am

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now would be the ideal time to lighten up and re release that single "Crazy"




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Reply #54 posted 02/07/08 4:53am

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Ottensen said:

lazycrockett said:

Lock the doors people, she out.

and another media circus show begins.

At this point of it all, if she doesn't lay low and seek an alternative lifestyle away from the media and the paps, if she continues this attention whoring I have no sympathy for her. I don't watch CNN or MSNBC to hear britney coverage, thats for real news.

She needs to GO AWAY.


Are you serious? She's out of the hospital already??

That's just layers of wrong disbelief


Anderson Cooper even did a little blurb about this last night because the paps were all over her when she left! He said it was the first time his show had covered the story. His interest is more about commenting on the court system, the tabloid press like TMZ, and our culture. He even said the in a sense he was contributing to the madness by even reporting about it. However, it's a story that shows just how far-off everything is--like a perfect storm for tragedy. He followed-up with the Heath Ledger autopsy results.

Apparently there was a "in-house" hearing, and the hospital backed-up by the court found she wasn't "sick" enough to stay her full 12 days! The family released a statement saying there wasn't really much more they could do, and they were really disappointed. In fact, the guardianship probably will be challenged as well because she will probably not be found incapable of handling her affairs.

Now.. the only alternative is to go through the criminal court system,having her arrested if an when she commits some sort of offense--like drug possession, etc.

Once again, I'm telling ya'll that THERE WERE RUMORS CIRCULATING IN THE DANCE COMMUNITY about Britney having mental issues way back when she was dating Justin--and maybe even before. MY PROBLEM with THE PARENTS is that they COULD HAVE done something WHILE THEY HAD THE CHANCE. They could have done something when she married that...guy. Didn't she marry some guy in Vegas, then DIVORCE him a day later? But no.. she went on tour--a place where she didn't even want OR NEED to be ACCORDING TO PEOPLE WHO WORKED WITH HER. Yes, it's commendable that THE PARENTS are now trying to use the SYSTEM to help them, but unfortunately it might be too little too late as has played-out for all the world to see. So I STILL stand by what I said that they shouldn't have waited this long to get tough with her.

As far as Kevin-- yes.. I STILL think the guy is a "gold-digger." Isn't this the same guy who left his pregnant girlfriend for Britney? So YES, I do question his character and his motives concerning BRITNEY herself, if not his kids. I still stand by what I said: she was probably acting crazy when they dated, but Kevin FOR A VARIETY OF COMPLEX REASONS--maybe even thinking he was in love with her at the time--- chose to ignore it.

As far as this all being Britney's fault and her responsibility, the deal is she is obviously PARANOID, trusting all the WRONG people particularly those who enable her. I STILL stand by what I say that the woman is MENTALLY ILL with this paranoia as part of her disease. She's NOT going to take her meds. because she doesn't think there is anything wrong with her, and might not trust the people who are actually trying to help her. It's a viscious cycle and a complete MESS.

Sadly, now the only way she is going to get any treatment if SHE, herself, has a moment of clarity and realizes she needs or meds, OR if she commits some sort of serious offense, warranting her incarceration. I can't blame a "sick" person for his/her dilemma. It's just a sad state of affairs which WAS ALLOWED to escalate OUT OF CONTROL.
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Reply #55 posted 02/07/08 6:05am

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So,she's out of the hospital already? rolleyes This is why she never gets better...they keep getting her "treatment" for only a few days.She gets released and goes right back to her crazy behavior.She needs to be sent to a mental facility for at least 6 months or so.
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Reply #56 posted 02/07/08 10:16am

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Whatever her real problem is, she's brought most of this shit on herself. Who gets out of the hospital and immediately gets in the car and goes to the Beverly Hills hotel? She's a troubled woman who will end up dead if she's not committed. I won't and don't feel sorry for her at all. She has so much going for her and still chooses to fuck up her life and ask for trouble by telling the paparazzi where she is. She drives around LA aimlessly for hours so they can follow her around and take her picture to ensure she's on the news everyday.
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Reply #57 posted 02/07/08 11:38am

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I don't trust that paparazzi dude at all. I don't know what britney was thinking. hell paris has cleaned up her act and gone on about her business and even got an honor. britney is still trying to keep that life going. girl that is over and this is nott the real you. come on brit everyone is wanting to send you to the nutty house. I hope you take notice of what is going on around you. everyone is assesing your problem eccept you. pay attention lady. don't let these guys you are dealing with and the media dictate your well being.
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Reply #58 posted 02/07/08 12:30pm

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And one of the most popular TV shows with the consistently highest ratings in recent years is American Idol, and the U.S. citizenry voted that jackass Bush back into Presidency in 2004. There's no accounting for the public's taste. Just because something's popular does not mean it's any good. Haven't you heard of the Accomodation Effect? It's a basic and widely recognized phenomena in psychology that states that the more often a person is exposed to a certain stimuli, the likelihood increases that they are to have one of two reactions to it. They will either cease to notice it, or they will develop a liking for it, regardless of their original opinion of the stimulus.

Sorry, but your argument is baseless. And that "other orger" you referred to was me. Pay attention.


Blah, blah, blah. Still doesn't make your opinion fact.




And yours is?

I thought the album sucked fat donkey dong, and that's all there is to it. No amount of raving about the charts is going to convince me otherwise. Pusycat Dolls and American Idol are also disturbingly popular. It does not make them good.
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Reply #59 posted 02/07/08 3:59pm

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So,she's out of the hospital already? rolleyes This is why she never gets better...they keep getting her "treatment" for only a few days.She gets released and goes right back to her crazy behavior.She needs to be sent to a mental facility for at least 6 months or so.



Lets make that 60 years, until we forget she was around making crapy music..just get on a plane and fly to an island ...why do all these star just stay in their houses...amy..mj...just leave the country..it's easy poor people call it getting away or a hoilday the world is a big place even for their big ego's... mad mad mad
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