Fury said:

justin is EGO

Prince could learn something from that

Nothing that Prince can learn from a guy that is just doing what he has been doing for 30 years. Timberlake is a tool but, he is a good entertainer but he is not bring anything new to the table and I doubt he ever will.

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fcukthepolice said:

It was aiight.

At least the guy is working hard, and smart/'musical' enough to surround himself with the right people. Talent and originality... not so much. At least he got the other 50% right, and you gotta respect him for that.

Vanilli said:

Opinion.

I'm pretty sure there's been naysayers for every single singer or actor in the world. Doesn't mean what you think is going to happen will or won't. But don't treat it like you KNOW. He's done pretty damn well for himself so far, why wouldn't it keep going?



Well, you're obviously rather hard to impress because in terms of stage and lighting, the show blew everyone else away.



So what? Does it really matter what a core audience is and since when does a core audience of women mean "not a REAL core audience"? I get what you mean by having mass appeal but a fanbase mainly consisting of women isn't any less a fanbase than one that is mixed. That's just your biased "teeny singer" view of Justin coming through.



That's true because they've been in the industry SO much longer than JT. The trouble with today's older generation is they want moremoremore out of artists who are still learning because their favourite artists already do or know those things (dance moves, instruments, input in the studio, etc).

JT's only 26 whereas MJ and Prince are in their late 40s. 20+ years is a BIG difference and I really don't think it's fair to compare yet.

JT was put into showbiz at a young age (8 or 9) and no doubt did as he was told for the majority of his teenhood. Once he started breaking out and working more, N*Syncs music got better and they surpassed the Backstreet Boys. Eventually, it was inevitable JT was going to go solo because, and industry types have said this, he had a clear vision of where he wanted to go with his career and obviously N*Sync wouldn't suit it.

At the time Justified came out, it had a very new sound to it, especially Cry Me A River.

Now with FS/LS, he's capatilised on that sound, honed his writing skills (yes he writes!) and begun to learn instruments. I'm guessing you didn't watch any of the live show? 50% of JT's performance is him on the keyboard, piano and guitar as well as complex dance routines and singing an entire show live.



Each to their own? If people want to consider him an artist, is there really anything wrong with that? He's proving to be a little more than disposable (remember he took a HUGE 3 year break between two albums, unheard of these days).



I don't think anyone, even JT, takes the Grammys seriously anymore. JT has spoken out against the Grammys so he probably won't win many this year




Ever will be? Wow, congratulations on learning how to predict the future.




I know of plenty of males that like him or at least his dancing. Most adults I've spoken to REALLY like his music. I myself was not a massive fan (mainly because of the egotistic attitude and how classless he was after dumping Britney, blabbing to anyone that'd listen about their sex life) until FS/LS came out and his talent became pretty undeniable.



Again with the "facts". Be aware of what's your opinion and what is true. None of the other N*Sync (or boyband for that matter) members have done this well. That's gotta count for something, right?

purplesweat said:

Nope. It just means he will have done better than they did.

As far as your argument that MJ and Prince are older, look at what MJ and Prince were doing when they were his age. They were much more creative and not relying on producers to shape their sound. I think you would HAVE to agree, Justified was all about strings being pulled by The Neptunes and a bit by Timbaland. FSLS was CLEARLY all about the strings being pulled by Timbaland.

And truth be told, the only reason Timb even wanted to produce the JT album was because, there was that shit that went down with Jive Records and The Neptunes.

Business. Business. Business. Justin is and ALWAYS WILL BE a product. Problem is, 5-10 years from now, his product will lack the appeal. The women will grow up and quit buying his records. Hope he enjoys it while he can.

he has aged really bad.. and looks like he is crying... like his eyes are pink like he is crying all the time...

i forgot to add that he's not really cool... and he squeeks like a mouse

TotalAlisa said:

Could it be, people catching on? Or is it just my opinions?

People are so use to the media feeding them that garbage hogwash of how great JT is, that they start to believe it. Trust me, a few years from now his sqeeks will be a distant memory.

Slave2daGroove said:

Vanilli said:

I do agree that they were more creative but that was an entirely different era where it was encouraged and NEEDED in order to succeed because everyone was as creative as each other. Nowadays, it's about who can change it up or be the first to come up with a new sound, not necessarily work at your craft and creativity until you're the best you can be.

I think JT actually learning instruments should be applauded not overlooked. He didn't have to and he's making it very public that he plays them all (showcased in music videos, on stage).

In THIS era JT is considered creative, that's just how it is. I don't necessarily like that but thats what pop music has come to. And compared to most of the stuff on radio, JT's work DOES sound very creative and original whether its because of him or not. No one really cares who did it, sung it, wrote it, played it, thought it or produced it anymore - people just care about whether it sounds "good".

I agree Timbaland helped FS/LS A LOT but I think JT had more input than anyone will ever give him credit for. Judging by what he and Timb have said, JT handled the writing and Timbo handled the beats.

Although, there's no reason why JT couldn't have had musical input since he KNOWS how to play 3 instruments so far.

I'm gonna leave your last paragraph, as it's just you harping on about your factual opinions again.

All arguments about "artistry" aside, the concert was brilliant (being there was unbelievable) and the DVD is awesome. The concert was very tight, professional, wonderfully produced and probably far better than anything I have seen in a long time. It was very original as well. Really, an all round, awesome experienced and very well captured on the DVD.

Justin is good for entertainment value. He also lists Prince as one of his musical heroes as well.

marnifrances said:

Exactly; nice to hear from someone with sense.

alphastreet said:

You do realise this description also applies to Janet Jackson, don't you?

marnifrances said:

Then why did he diss him in "Give It To Me?" If he was such a big influence. I never heard Prince or MJ doing a track dissing James Brown.

Vanilli said:

He didn't.

Prince need dissing anyway; he is a total prick

fcukthepolice said:

Justin did his pat boone thing with MJ on Justified and did the same thing with Prince on this latest one.


If he can come up with a cd that doesn't just direct steals from another established artist, I'll give him some props.


Vocally, Jt wasn't the strongest in N'Sync.....I always thought JC was the better singer and from what I hear, a better songwriter.

Rhondab said:

I agree with the JC part; he is talented. His solo album was good.

Rhondab said:

Right on! Finally someone being honest...
Was JCs solo album any good? I always liked his voice, but
his lead single from his solo stuff was awful.

Vanilli said:

There was someone else he was rumoured to be talking about, can't think of who though. So there's a chance it wasn't aimed at Prince.

Also, like me, he could be a fan of his music, not the person.

purplesweat said:

Was it Prince Rogers Nelson?
Oh wait that is Prince. LOL JK

Vanilli said:

I think it was Jamie Starr

purplesweat said:

As much as we might disagree about Timberfake, his future in music or lack thereof, thanks for making me chuckle with that.

Good one.

Vanilli said:

No hard feelings or anything, I just like to debate

midnightmover said:

I know people here think jam & lewis and even rene did all her work, but she has definitely had input in the writing too with and without them. She wanted creative control, which is why she is not proud of her first 2 albums. If control & rn were more jam & lewis, janet & velvet rope were more janet. Even if rene is gone, janet still had good album tracks after that were brilliant. And guess what, janet was compared to mj too, but she is not an mj impersonator like jt, she is her own person, I can't think of JT without thinking of timbaland, mj, prince, george michael, 90's r&b, neptunes etc. whoever else he copied.
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fcukthepolice said:

It was a clone of The Musicology Tour (pretty much)... Even down to "The Sexy Ladies" part = Prince's "D.M.S.R jam" except it was a bit "dry" musically..

alphastreet said:

Exactly, Janet fills a void, that Paula Abdul later also filled. However, JT just straight up copies people. There isn't a need for copy cats. That is why in ten years, all these people who are being marked as "AMAZING" will be a distant memory. I hope the next generation of "stars" brings the originality.

People who claim MJ and Prince weren't orignal in their early days are full of shit. Put on a Jacksons concert from back in the day, Pre-Thriller, and compare that to Justin's early work. You will see MJ doing shit HE CAME UP WITH. Where as, Justin had to have a dance instructor, and copy his influences.

When people say Justin is original, I just wanna bop them!

TotalAlisa said:

JT did most of the show I saw either half baked or a little drunk, that would explain the look you are speaking off.

Vanilli said:

Let's not forget that Off The Wall and Thriller are by and large Quincey Jones albums. Bad was about half MJ half Quincey.