ThreadBare said: DarlingDiana said: ^ That's why it better not be Prince or MJ. although, it sounds like an MJ stunt... He loves to announce his collaborations... It sounds like a Timbaland stunt. When has MJ ever announced his collaborations like this. He hasn't really made a big announcement for any of his collaborators on the album he's currently working on. I can't remember him making a big announcement when he started working with Quincy, Teddy Riley, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, Rodney Jerkins, none of them. How have you come to the conclusion that MJ loves to make big announcements for his collaborators? | |
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DarlingDiana said: ThreadBare said: although, it sounds like an MJ stunt... He loves to announce his collaborations... It sounds like a Timbaland stunt. When has MJ ever announced his collaborations like this. He hasn't really made a big announcement for any of his collaborators on the album he's currently working on. I can't remember him making a big announcement when he started working with Quincy, Teddy Riley, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, Rodney Jerkins, none of them. How have you come to the conclusion that MJ loves to make big announcements for his collaborators? Well, this two-part interview might have contributed to my impression... | |
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ThreadBare said: DarlingDiana said: It sounds like a Timbaland stunt. When has MJ ever announced his collaborations like this. He hasn't really made a big announcement for any of his collaborators on the album he's currently working on. I can't remember him making a big announcement when he started working with Quincy, Teddy Riley, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, Rodney Jerkins, none of them. How have you come to the conclusion that MJ loves to make big announcements for his collaborators? Well, this two-part interview might have contributed to my impression... But that was during an interview, not an award show. Like you said, there is no problem with producers or artists announcing their collaborations in interviews. | |
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Rodya24 said: But that was during an interview, not an award show. Like you said, there is no problem with producers or artists announcing their collaborations in interviews.
the whole point, to me, is about industry relevance. MJ likes to believe he's still musically relevant. the whole thing's still tacky to me. Time for breakfast. | |
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ThreadBare said: Rodya24 said: But that was during an interview, not an award show. Like you said, there is no problem with producers or artists announcing their collaborations in interviews.
the whole point, to me, is about industry relevance. MJ likes to believe he's still musically relevant. the whole thing's still tacky to me. Time for breakfast. I am confused. First you write that it is tacky for a producer to announce a collaboration at an award show. You also write that it is alright for a producer to announce a collaboration in an interview. Then you post an interview where an artist and a producer announce their collaboration as a sign of tackiness? [Edited 2/2/08 8:47am] [Edited 2/2/08 8:54am] | |
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ThreadBare said: Rodya24 said: But that was during an interview, not an award show. Like you said, there is no problem with producers or artists announcing their collaborations in interviews.
the whole point, to me, is about industry relevance. MJ likes to believe he's still musically relevant. the whole thing's still tacky to me. Time for breakfast. It sure is tacky, but MJ isn't MJ if he doesn't do something tacky. I expect that from him now. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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Rodya24 said: ThreadBare said: the whole point, to me, is about industry relevance. MJ likes to believe he's still musically relevant. the whole thing's still tacky to me. Time for breakfast. I am confused. First you write that it is tacky for a producer to announce a collaboration at an award show. You also write that it is alright for a producer to announce a collaboration in an interview. Then you post an interview where an artist and a producer announce their collaboration as a sign of tackiness? WTF. [Edited 2/2/08 8:47am] Well, the two-part Access Hollywood interview in Ireland was tacky to me, too... I was just showing it as an example of him trying to draw attention to "hot production," which is what I'm sure a Timbaland-Grammy show announcement would be, too. Tacky, IMO. Just make good music. Works for other artists. | |
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purplecam said: ThreadBare said: the whole point, to me, is about industry relevance. MJ likes to believe he's still musically relevant. the whole thing's still tacky to me. Time for breakfast. It sure is tacky, but MJ isn't MJ if he doesn't do something tacky. I expect that from him now. Well, aside from all the speculations about announcing collaborations, I have to agree. A lot about MJ is tacky. A lot of his clothes for example. | |
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ThreadBare said: Rodya24 said: I am confused. First you write that it is tacky for a producer to announce a collaboration at an award show. You also write that it is alright for a producer to announce a collaboration in an interview. Then you post an interview where an artist and a producer announce their collaboration as a sign of tackiness? WTF. [Edited 2/2/08 8:47am] Well, the two-part Access Hollywood interview in Ireland was tacky to me, too... I was just showing it as an example of him trying to draw attention to "hot production," which is what I'm sure a Timbaland-Grammy show announcement would be, too. Tacky, IMO. Just make good music. Works for other artists. I agree. Just make good music. | |
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Rodya24 said: ThreadBare said: Well, the two-part Access Hollywood interview in Ireland was tacky to me, too... I was just showing it as an example of him trying to draw attention to "hot production," which is what I'm sure a Timbaland-Grammy show announcement would be, too. Tacky, IMO. Just make good music. Works for other artists. I agree. Just make good music. There it is right there. Maybe then, I'll be a fan again. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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purplecam said: ThreadBare said: the whole point, to me, is about industry relevance. MJ likes to believe he's still musically relevant. the whole thing's still tacky to me. Time for breakfast. It sure is tacky, but MJ isn't MJ if he doesn't do something tacky. I expect that from him now. SHAMON MAN SHAMON! | |
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Its just more stunts and gimmicks, to build HYPE. Im curious how he's gonna announce this, during a performance, during the time when hes presenting someone else's award, on the red carpet, it is very tacky and ego driven. Just do your album and put it out, shut up and let the music talk. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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Just know this...even if it turns out to be someone else mentioned at the Grammys, Timbaland is too hot a producer right now in pop music, for MJ not to work with him. Ever since Dangerous, Michael has seeked the producers of the moment to work with. Hence, Teddy on Dangerous, Dallas/Jimmy Jam/R. Kelly on HIStory and Rodney on Invincible.
That being said, it is more than likely MJ. And to the fans who defend MJ against doing tacky things at award shows. I offer this as an argument that he does tacky things at award shows. MJ Fan 1992-Forever
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I seriously never understood people saying that was an uncomfortable or awkward looking kiss. If you want to see an uncomfortable or awkward kiss you should see me try to work my magic on a Saturday night after a bottle of Jim Beam. | |
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DarlingDiana said: I seriously never understood people saying that was an uncomfortable or awkward looking kiss. If you want to see an uncomfortable or awkward kiss you should see me try to work my magic on a Saturday night after a bottle of Jim Beam.
I agree I thought the kiss looked natural. I never doubted the relationship. In fact, I wish they were still together. I thought they made a good couple. That being said, the kiss was clearly a PR stunt. If it was just them wanting to show the world they were happy, they woulda cuddled, and kissed in their seats, knowing full well, the camera woulda panned on them. MJ Fan 1992-Forever
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But this kind of "guess who im working with" is similar to shit that goes down at the Vibe awards or AMA show, you know when presenters come out and before they speak they plug their album "yo go out out and buy so and so it drops on tuesday", im like shut the hell up, thats why you have a web site. Thats more or less what im saying, its just a level that you are sinking with doing stuff like this, it comes off as nothing more than ego driven HYPE that never lives up to its talk. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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i cant see witch person in the world . timbo would shut his can for. has to be michael , and to be honest im surprised timbaland wassent the first one to be in contact with mike in the first place. | |
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motownlover said: i cant see witch person in the world . timbo would shut his can for. has to be michael , and to be honest im surprised timbaland wassent the first one to be in contact with mike in the first place.
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere, he submitted stuff for Invincible and Michael rejected it. MJ Fan 1992-Forever
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Vanilli said: motownlover said: i cant see witch person in the world . timbo would shut his can for. has to be michael , and to be honest im surprised timbaland wassent the first one to be in contact with mike in the first place.
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere, he submitted stuff for Invincible and Michael rejected it. Did he produce JTs 'Justified'? Coz apparently that album was meant for MJ but he turned it down as well. | |
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DANGEROUSx said: Vanilli said: I'm pretty sure I read somewhere, he submitted stuff for Invincible and Michael rejected it. Did he produce JTs 'Justified'? Coz apparently that album was meant for MJ but he turned it down as well. He produced "Cry Me A River" and some other track. Both sound very MJ-ish, but with Timbaland on beatbox. That being said, Justified was mainly a Neptunes production. Most of the tracks the Neptunes produced "Like I Love You" and "Rock Your Body" were made for MJ. He rejected those tracks as well. Justin may have sang on the album, and had his jackass face on the cover, but truth be told, that was a Neptunes album. Without them, that album would be just straight up whining. Everything you hear on that album that is good is a result of everyone except Timberlake. MJ Fan 1992-Forever
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justin is overshadowed by production, i mean his voice or character is not what is prominent on his albums. imo . and yeah mj rejected those songs and i dont know why he rejected those songs other than he did not wanted to repeat him selve with the off the wall sound that inlfuenced the industry so deeply. | |
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I agree vanilli. I can't stand justin, but gave in and got those albums, cause I'm a fan of timbaland and the neptunes and they definitely produced some strong material for justin, I can't help but wish that michael accepted those tracks, though those would be like an old hat for him too. They had strong melodies and hooks, and though I liked Invincible, something was off about the flow of the album. | |
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The "mystery artist" is Usher. | |
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Timmy84 said: The "mystery artist" is Usher.
Oh brother...link? MJ Fan 1992-Forever
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Tacky? These people are in the ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS!!Hype builds excitement, which builds anticipation, which builds expectations, tv ratings, radio airplay, album sales, etc. There's nothing wrong with it. Award shows are alot more than just showing up, performing, and/or accepting trophies. It's always been about big egos and popularity contests. Being overly-cynical promotes slow death. lol
Truth be told (regarding JT's "Justified" album), some of the music the Neptunes had produced was meant for Mike (no secret), but the majority of the lyrics were written/re-written by Justin and Pharrell. It was announced a while ago that Usher was working with Timbo on his next album, so I don't think he's the mystery artist. | |
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Vanilli said: Timmy84 said: The "mystery artist" is Usher.
Oh brother...link? I don't have a link but I really don't think it's Michael. He probably was just saying all of that just to see where he could take it, lol. | |
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Timmy84 said: Vanilli said: Oh brother...link? I don't have a link but I really don't think it's Michael. He probably was just saying all of that just to see where he could take it, lol. I'm betting it is Michael at this point. I can kinda see it... Picture it Sicily 2008..OK OK..I'm not Sophia but here is how I see it going down..seriously Timbaland will introduce Michael, and in the introduction say something like "Please welcome the artist I'm currently in the studio with, and the King of Pop..Michael Jackson" Maybe Michael will accept some award, then HOPEFULLY perform, but I wouldn't bet on it. MJ Fan 1992-Forever
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Vanilli said: Timmy84 said: I don't have a link but I really don't think it's Michael. He probably was just saying all of that just to see where he could take it, lol. I'm betting it is Michael at this point. I can kinda see it... Picture it Sicily 2008..OK OK..I'm not Sophia but here is how I see it going down..seriously Timbaland will introduce Michael, and in the introduction say something like "Please welcome the artist I'm currently in the studio with, and the King of Pop..Michael Jackson" Maybe Michael will accept some award, then HOPEFULLY perform, but I wouldn't bet on it. That's like a wet dream. It sounds good then you wake up and you're drenched in some nasty shit. Ok, that was disgusting but you can't believe what you hear. | |
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Just for the hell of it, I so wish it would be Prince! some of you would probably have a stroke!!!lol
It most definetly is NOT MJ! | |
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It's Whitney Houston | |
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