TotalAlisa said: DarlingDiana said: So they are not his kids because they look like their mother? I look like my mother. Does that mean my father is no my real father?
Anyway, if Michael read this thread he'd be doing some serious ass-whooping because if I was him I'd find it offensive seeing so many people saying I'm not the dad. Whether or not you are so uneducated about mixed race to see these are his children, the fact is that he is the father be legality so end of discussion. I look like my dad's side of the family but you can still see some of my mom's features.... even with my brother.. he looks like my dad... but you can see his ears, nose and head shape is from my mom's side.. there is NOTHING MICHAEL ABOUT THOSE KIDS.... those aren't his biological kids... until i he actually shows the DNA test... they will never be his biological kids in my heart or in my sight... lolol... I loooooaave you... michael You can't see Michael in Prince at least? Not only his eyes but to me he has a darker skin tone. He's like a light brown more than a white. [Edited 2/1/08 20:05pm] | |
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TotalAlisa said: yeah they do look like debbie rowe.. and thats cause they are her biological kids NOT MICHAEL'S...
those are his kids.. but not biological... i love him.. but not crazy enough to believe his gametes produced those kids AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO IS SURPRISED BY THIS STATEMENT? "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: TotalAlisa said: yeah they do look like debbie rowe.. and thats cause they are her biological kids NOT MICHAEL'S...
those are his kids.. but not biological... i love him.. but not crazy enough to believe his gametes produced those kids AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO IS SURPRISED BY THIS STATEMENT? I re-read it like 3 times. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: bboy87 said: AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO IS SURPRISED BY THIS STATEMENT? I re-read it like 3 times. "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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DarlingDiana said: TotalAlisa said: I look like my dad's side of the family but you can still see some of my mom's features.... even with my brother.. he looks like my dad... but you can see his ears, nose and head shape is from my mom's side.. there is NOTHING MICHAEL ABOUT THOSE KIDS.... those aren't his biological kids... until i he actually shows the DNA test... they will never be his biological kids in my heart or in my sight... lolol... I loooooaave you... michael You can't see Michael in Prince at least? Not only his eyes but to me he has a darker skin tone. He's like a light brown more than a white. [Edited 2/1/08 20:05pm] I Have TWO.. clean and healthy eyes.. and a clear mind... and I do NOT see michael.... anyone can hallucinate.. and see anything they want if they keep imagining... but im not playing that barney imagination game…. I see two kids that are not his biological… they are his kids.. his family but not related by blood…. | |
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God.. I look NOTHING like my mum and shes my biological parent?
I have dark skin, brown eyes and dark brown hair.. she has light green eyes, light skin and light brownish hair. It doesn't mean anything, my dads genes were obviously stronger in my case. But yeah.. I don't even know why I just said that. | |
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TotalAlisa said: DarlingDiana said: You can't see Michael in Prince at least? Not only his eyes but to me he has a darker skin tone. He's like a light brown more than a white. [Edited 2/1/08 20:05pm] I Have TWO.. clean and healthy eyes.. and a clear mind... and I do NOT see michael.... anyone can hallucinate.. and see anything they want if they keep imagining... but im not playing that barney imagination game…. I see two kids that are not his biological… they are his kids.. his family but not related by blood…. Well I guess that's cool. Michael doesn't have to prove himself to you. He loves those kids, he knows they are his, he probably enjoyed making them. That's enough for him. Do you really think he cares if everyone in the world believes they are his? | |
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DANGEROUSx said: God.. I look NOTHING like my mum and shes my biological parent?
I have dark skin, brown eyes and dark brown hair.. she has light green eyes, light skin and light brownish hair. It doesn't mean anything, my dads genes were obviously stronger in my case. But yeah.. I don't even know why I just said that. you can't compare this to a blk man with really coarse hair... broad nose strong jaw line ... having a baby wiht a white lady with blonde hair... there is NO way a man like michael is going to produce kids like this... LOOK at the nieces and nephews in the jackson family.. you can atleast see that they are blk... and have some jackson features.... in the words of Maury "YOU ARE NOT THE FATHER"... (then we hear yelling from the audience and the tv bleeping out curse words ) | |
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TotalAlisa said: DANGEROUSx said: God.. I look NOTHING like my mum and shes my biological parent?
I have dark skin, brown eyes and dark brown hair.. she has light green eyes, light skin and light brownish hair. It doesn't mean anything, my dads genes were obviously stronger in my case. But yeah.. I don't even know why I just said that. you can't compare this to a blk man with really coarse hair... broad nose strong jaw line ... having a baby wiht a white lady with blonde hair... there is NO way a man like michael is going to produce kids like this... LOOK at the nieces and nephews in the jackson family.. you can atleast see that they are blk... and have some jackson features.... in the words of Maury "YOU ARE NOT THE FATHER"... (then we hear yelling from the audience and the tv bleeping out curse words ) I understand. At least some orgers in the thread (not going to name names) cannot accuse all the hardcore fans of being "delusional" about MJ and his children. And about that Ciara picture. | |
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TotalAlisa said: DANGEROUSx said: God.. I look NOTHING like my mum and shes my biological parent?
I have dark skin, brown eyes and dark brown hair.. she has light green eyes, light skin and light brownish hair. It doesn't mean anything, my dads genes were obviously stronger in my case. But yeah.. I don't even know why I just said that. you can't compare this to a blk man with really coarse hair... broad nose strong jaw line ... having a baby wiht a white lady with blonde hair... there is NO way a man like michael is going to produce kids like this... LOOK at the nieces and nephews in the jackson family.. you can atleast see that they are blk... and have some jackson features.... in the words of Maury "YOU ARE NOT THE FATHER"... (then we hear yelling from the audience and the tv bleeping out curse words ) Yeah.. I said I don't know why I said that because I don't even think they are his children biologically, Blanket could be.. its the eyes... I'm sure his eldest aren't though.. They look nothing like MJ. | |
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DANGEROUSx said: TotalAlisa said: you can't compare this to a blk man with really coarse hair... broad nose strong jaw line ... having a baby wiht a white lady with blonde hair... there is NO way a man like michael is going to produce kids like this... LOOK at the nieces and nephews in the jackson family.. you can atleast see that they are blk... and have some jackson features.... in the words of Maury "YOU ARE NOT THE FATHER"... (then we hear yelling from the audience and the tv bleeping out curse words ) Yeah.. I said I don't know why I said that because I don't even think they are his children biologically, Blanket could be.. its the eyes... I'm sure his eldest aren't though.. They look nothing like MJ. Whoever their biological parents may be, I have to admit: they are all adorable, in particular Blanket. He has such a cute smile. | |
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Rodya24 said: TotalAlisa said: you can't compare this to a blk man with really coarse hair... broad nose strong jaw line ... having a baby wiht a white lady with blonde hair... there is NO way a man like michael is going to produce kids like this... LOOK at the nieces and nephews in the jackson family.. you can atleast see that they are blk... and have some jackson features.... in the words of Maury "YOU ARE NOT THE FATHER"... (then we hear yelling from the audience and the tv bleeping out curse words ) I understand. At least some orgers in the thread (not going to name names) cannot accuse all the hardcore fans of being "delusional" about MJ and his children. And about that Ciara picture. people know ilove michael and a big fan.. but im not about to pretend or temporarily lose my mind and say i believe those are his kids.. cause those are NOT... if those are his kid.. then im his daughter too | |
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TotalAlisa said: Rodya24 said: I understand. At least some orgers in the thread (not going to name names) cannot accuse all the hardcore fans of being "delusional" about MJ and his children. And about that Ciara picture. people know ilove michael and a big fan.. but im not about to pretend or temporarily lose my mind and say i believe those are his kids.. cause those are NOT... if those are his kid.. then im his daughter too I thought he was your uncle. And that Janet Jackson was your aunt. | |
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Rodya24 said: DANGEROUSx said: Yeah.. I said I don't know why I said that because I don't even think they are his children biologically, Blanket could be.. its the eyes... I'm sure his eldest aren't though.. They look nothing like MJ. Whoever their biological parents may be, I have to admit: they are all adorable, in particular Blanket. He has such a cute smile. Yessss, Blanket is sooooo adorable. Awww | |
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Rodya24 said: TotalAlisa said: people know ilove michael and a big fan.. but im not about to pretend or temporarily lose my mind and say i believe those are his kids.. cause those are NOT... if those are his kid.. then im his daughter too I thought he was your uncle. And that Janet Jackson was your aunt. oh please... Yes im all of that his daughter and neice... but not to be negative.... in those pics.. those two kids do not look that cute to me.... | |
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TotalAlisa said: Rodya24 said: I understand. At least some orgers in the thread (not going to name names) cannot accuse all the hardcore fans of being "delusional" about MJ and his children. And about that Ciara picture. people know ilove michael and a big fan.. but im not about to pretend or temporarily lose my mind and say i believe those are his kids.. cause those are NOT... if those are his kid.. then im his daughter too I have a feeling that all those insisting that they are his kids just because they look like their mother are white, because they don't seem to understand the concept of how a mixed-race child looks like, regardless of what parent they may look like. If a child is mixed race they may look exactly like the white parent but you will still see their African ancestry in them no matter how small. It's like a mixed-race child having the exact colouring and features of Wesley Snipes or Alex Wek or even Michael natural colouring and features(and Michael naturally is no way as dark as Wesley Snipe), it's just not going to happen, because the white parent blood would mean that the child would never turn out that dark no matter how much they look like the black parent. Jermaine Jackson has mixed-race children, who are pale skin and have white features but the hair alone gives them away, not one of Michael's children has got even wavy hair, let alone curly hair. I continue to say Michael is a lost soul living in his own pretend world. [Edited 2/1/08 23:47pm] | |
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MattyJam said: 'Michael's kids look like Debbie Rowe...'
Mm, that may be.... but they sure don't look like Michael! | |
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all I can say is I wish I could rock those heels like 'ol boy. legs are gorgeous | |
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heybaby said: all I can say is I wish I could rock those heels like 'ol boy. legs are gorgeous
Are you talking about MJ? | |
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DANGEROUSx said: heybaby said: all I can say is I wish I could rock those heels like 'ol boy. legs are gorgeous
Are you talking about MJ? no. a pic bbo87 posted earlier in the thread of a man in heels | |
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heybaby said: DANGEROUSx said: Are you talking about MJ? no. a pic bbo87 posted earlier in the thread of a man in heels Oh. | |
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Paris could pass for mixed in that first pic. | |
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whatsgoingon said: MJ actions of ridding anything about himself that spell BLACK, tells me about his mentality. Just bacause he gives to black charities doesn't stop him from self-hating. No one saying he hates all black people, I mean I am sure he loves his mother, sisters, Diana Ross etc, but that doesn't mean he hasn't got self hatred for himself. And his actions continue to prove it again and again.
Well, IF he has selfhatred then I wonder, how does that affect you?? What does that have to do with you? Why is that your business??? If he has selfhatred, then that is sad, but totally his own issue and not yours to discuss it! And about him hating black people, that is simple bs! His family is black! His nanny is black! Most of the people working around him on a daily basis are black! Most of his touring personal is black! Most of the people who worked with him on his albums are black! He proclaimed his love for black people and Africa countless times! You'd think if he really hate black people he would totally distance himself from them! And if he would truely hate them, he also wouldn't keep them around just to pretend he doesn't hate them! And for the question on whether they are his biological children or not! It's not of anyones business except them! What Michael and the kids are concerned! He is their father and they are his children, end of story! He doesn't need to proof anything to anyone! And certainly not to a bunch of anonymious idiots on the internet, who give their opinion about everything and everyone! | |
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PatrickS77 said: whatsgoingon said: MJ actions of ridding anything about himself that spell BLACK, tells me about his mentality. Just bacause he gives to black charities doesn't stop him from self-hating. No one saying he hates all black people, I mean I am sure he loves his mother, sisters, Diana Ross etc, but that doesn't mean he hasn't got self hatred for himself. And his actions continue to prove it again and again.
Well, IF he has selfhatred then I wonder, how does that affect you?? What does that have to do with you? Why is that your business??? If he has selfhatred, then that is sad, but totally his own issue and not yours to discuss it! And about him hating black people, that is simple bs! His family is black! His nanny is black! Most of the people working around him on a daily basis are black! Most of his touring personal is black! Most of the people who worked with him on his albums are black! He proclaimed his love for black people and Africa countless times! You'd think if he really hate black people he would totally distance himself from them! And if he would truely hate them, he also wouldn't keep them around just to pretend he doesn't hate them! And for the question on whether they are his biological children or not! It's not of anyones business except them! What Michael and the kids are concerned! He is their father and they are his children, end of story! He doesn't need to proof anything to anyone! And certainly not to a bunch of anonymious idiots on the internet, who give their opinion about everything and everyone! Stop talking with your head up your arse! Just because he has a black family and a black nanny it doesn't stop him for having self hatred. During slavery white slave masters would have black mistresses that didn't mean they loved the black race on the whole. So your point there is mute. Secondly, Michael is the one who implied all those children were biologically his, if he had kept his mouth shut and not said anything about their parantage then one would assume he had adopted them anyway, and there is nothing wrong with that. The fact of the matter is his actions over the last 20 yrs speak much louder than words. What gets me is the whole pretence thing and the crazy fans that go along with the pretence and then call everyone else "Ignorant". | |
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whatsgoingon said: PatrickS77 said: Well, IF he has selfhatred then I wonder, how does that affect you?? What does that have to do with you? Why is that your business??? If he has selfhatred, then that is sad, but totally his own issue and not yours to discuss it! And about him hating black people, that is simple bs! His family is black! His nanny is black! Most of the people working around him on a daily basis are black! Most of his touring personal is black! Most of the people who worked with him on his albums are black! He proclaimed his love for black people and Africa countless times! You'd think if he really hate black people he would totally distance himself from them! And if he would truely hate them, he also wouldn't keep them around just to pretend he doesn't hate them! And for the question on whether they are his biological children or not! It's not of anyones business except them! What Michael and the kids are concerned! He is their father and they are his children, end of story! He doesn't need to proof anything to anyone! And certainly not to a bunch of anonymious idiots on the internet, who give their opinion about everything and everyone! Stop talking with your head up your arse! Just because he has a black family and a black nanny it doesn't stop him for having self hatred. During slavery white slave masters would have black mistresses that didn't mean they loved the black race on the whole. So your point there is mute. Secondly, Michael is the one who implied all those children were biologically his, if he had kept his mouth shut and not said anything about their parantage then one would assume he had adopted them anyway, and there is nothing wrong with that. The fact of the matter is his actions over the last 20 yrs speak much louder than words. What gets me is the whole pretence thing and the crazy fans that go along with the pretence and then call everyone else "Ignorant". Who cares? Are you financially invested in any-Michael Jackson related stocks? Are you related to him? Were you once romantically involved with Michael Jackson? Were you once a close friend of the Jackson family or of Michael Jackson? You have repeated the same points 15,089,083 times in this and other threads. As stupid as some MJ fans might strike you, WE GET IT. You think MJ is a self-hating black man. Must you repeat it 19,893,208 times? WE GET IT. Don't you have anything more positive things to do with your life? At least other orgers like midnightmover and Supa mix their comments with ironic statements or inject a sense of humor into the discussion. Unless you are any of the above (former friend, family relative, girlfriend, or fiancee) I see no need for you to become so excited. You remind me of myself. I am trying to not take these threads so personally. I suggest you do the same. Just because some orgers disagree with you does not mean the end of the world. [Edited 2/2/08 6:36am] | |
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bboy87 said: Let's just let this thread sink.
And on that note..... FLASHIN! His ass looks great... I want that bag | |
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Rodya24 said: whatsgoingon said: Stop talking with your head up your arse! Just because he has a black family and a black nanny it doesn't stop him for having self hatred. During slavery white slave masters would have black mistresses that didn't mean they loved the black race on the whole. So your point there is mute. Secondly, Michael is the one who implied all those children were biologically his, if he had kept his mouth shut and not said anything about their parantage then one would assume he had adopted them anyway, and there is nothing wrong with that. The fact of the matter is his actions over the last 20 yrs speak much louder than words. What gets me is the whole pretence thing and the crazy fans that go along with the pretence and then call everyone else "Ignorant". Who cares? Are you financially invested in any-Michael Jackson related stocks? Are you related to him? Were you once romantically involved with Michael Jackson? Were you once a close friend of the Jackson family or of Michael Jackson? You have repeated the same points 15,089,083 times in this and other threads. As stupid as some MJ fans might strike you, WE GET IT. You think MJ is a self-hating black man. Must you repeat it 19,893,208 times? WE GET IT. Don't you have anything more positive things to do with your life? At least other orgers like midnightmover and Supa mix their comments with ironic statements or inject a sense of humor into the discussion. Unless you are any of the above (former friend, family relative, girlfriend, or fiancee) I see no need for you to become so excited. You remind me of myself. I am trying to not take these threads so personally. I suggest you do the same. Just because some orgers disagree with you does not mean the end of the world. [Edited 2/2/08 6:36am] You guys come over here to a non-MJ forum, to post pics of Michael kids and then you expect people to go in this La La land with you and all the other deluded fans that's what gets me piss. If you don't want people to discuss Michael and his many issues then don't bring his issues here in the first place and expect everyone here to join in with the delusions. Keep them on MJ forums where delusion reigns supreme! | |
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whatsgoingon said: Rodya24 said: Who cares? Are you financially invested in any-Michael Jackson related stocks? Are you related to him? Were you once romantically involved with Michael Jackson? Were you once a close friend of the Jackson family or of Michael Jackson? You have repeated the same points 15,089,083 times in this and other threads. As stupid as some MJ fans might strike you, WE GET IT. You think MJ is a self-hating black man. Must you repeat it 19,893,208 times? WE GET IT. Don't you have anything more positive things to do with your life? At least other orgers like midnightmover and Supa mix their comments with ironic statements or inject a sense of humor into the discussion. Unless you are any of the above (former friend, family relative, girlfriend, or fiancee) I see no need for you to become so excited. You remind me of myself. I am trying to not take these threads so personally. I suggest you do the same. Just because some orgers disagree with you does not mean the end of the world. [Edited 2/2/08 6:36am] You guys come over here to a non-MJ forum, to post pics of Michael kids and then you expect people to go in this La La land with you and all the other deluded fans that's what gets me piss. If you don't want people to discuss Michael and his many issues then don't bring his issues here in the first place and expect everyone here to join in with the delusions. Keep them on MJ forums where delusion reigns supreme! I took one of these after the other Michael Jackson children-related thread. I suggest you do the same. | |
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whatsgoingon said:[quote] PatrickS77 said: Stop talking with your head up your arse! Just because he has a black family and a black nanny it doesn't stop him for having self hatred. During slavery white slave masters would have black mistresses that didn't mean they loved the black race on the whole. So your point there is mute. Again: PatrickS77 said: Well, IF he has selfhatred then I wonder, how does that affect you?? What does that have to do with you? Why is that your business??? If he has selfhatred, then that is sad, but totally his own issue and not yours to discuss it!
As for the children... again none of your fucking business! He can call them whatever the hell he wants to call them! If he says, they are his biological children, then that is his prerogative to do so! | |
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