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Thread started 02/01/08 12:32pm

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Obscure Elton John: Nobody Wins.

A rare video, from the album the Fox.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AbseH4WDFZg

Haunting, well written tune.
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Reply #1 posted 02/01/08 12:41pm

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DEF. a gem nod
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Reply #2 posted 02/01/08 1:18pm

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yeah this was from Elton's strange period, coming out of the 70's. His mania had died down, and the 80's began for him with albums like 21 at 33, the fox and than Jump up. the 21 at 33 record was the first without songs from Taupin, during their minor parting for about a year. Elton had two singles off the "Fox" album, Nobody Wins and Chloe both reaching #21 and #34 respectively, Nobody Wins is a re-write of a french song.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #3 posted 02/02/08 8:33am

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Elton is a real mess now However. If you ever have the chance, listen to the song Legal Boys, a closet classic as well. Just can't find it on YouTube..lol
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Reply #4 posted 02/02/08 9:19am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Elton is a real mess now However. If you ever have the chance, listen to the song Legal Boys, a closet classic as well. Just can't find it on YouTube..lol


Really, everything since 2000 has been amazing, Songs from the West Coast was his best work since the 70's easily.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #5 posted 02/02/08 9:49am

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I thought this thread title meant.. it isn't worth searching for obscure material by Elton John because it doesn't serve him or the listener. lol

I read somewhere that he had a #1 hit every year since his debut until recently?

Can someone clarify? Does it include when he was Disney's bitch?
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Reply #6 posted 02/02/08 9:56am

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Cinnie said:

I thought this thread title meant.. it isn't worth searching for obscure material by Elton John because it doesn't serve him or the listener. lol

I read somewhere that he had a #1 hit every year since his debut until recently?

Can someone clarify? Does it include when he was Disney's bitch?


He had a top 40 hit (on the top 100 chart) every year from 1970-1999, 30 years straight, thats never gonna be broken.

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Reply #7 posted 02/02/08 9:59am

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lastdecember said:

Cinnie said:

I thought this thread title meant.. it isn't worth searching for obscure material by Elton John because it doesn't serve him or the listener. lol

I read somewhere that he had a #1 hit every year since his debut until recently?

Can someone clarify? Does it include when he was Disney's bitch?


He had a top 40 hit (on the top 100 chart) every year from 1970-1999, 30 years straight, thats never gonna be broken.


I wouldn't mind seeing that list.

I remember he had a compilation around 2000 that would have covered it...
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Reply #8 posted 02/02/08 10:09am

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I think they meant top forty.
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Reply #9 posted 02/02/08 10:32am

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Cinnie said:

lastdecember said:



He had a top 40 hit (on the top 100 chart) every year from 1970-1999, 30 years straight, thats never gonna be broken.


I wouldn't mind seeing that list.

I remember he had a compilation around 2000 that would have covered it...


Heres the list of his Top 40 run


SONG YEAR PEAK

Your Song 1970 8
Friends 1971 34
Levon 1972 24
Rocket Man 1972 6
Honky Cat 1972 8
Crocodile Rock 1973 1
Daniel 1973 2
Saturdays alright for Fighting 1973 12
Goodbye Yellow Brick Road 1973 2
Bennie and the Jets 1974 1
Dont let the sun go down on me 1974 2
Whatever gets you through the night 1974 1
The bitch is back 1974 4
Lucy in the sky with Diamonds 1975 1
Philadelphia Freedom 1975 1
Someone Saved my life tonight 1975 4
Island Girl 1975 1
Grow some funk of your own 1976 14
Dont go breaking my heart 1976 1
Sorry seems to be the hardest word 1976 6
Bite your lip 1977 28
Ego 1978 34
Part time love 1978 22
mama cant buy you love 1979 9
Victim of Love 1979 31
Little Jeanie 1980 3
Dont you wanna play this game 1980 39
Nobody wins 1981 21
Chloe 1981 34
Empty Garden 1982 13
Blue Eyes 1982 12
Im still Standing 1983 12
Kiss the Bride 1983 25
I guess thats why they call it the blues 1983 4
Sad Songs 1984 5
Who wears these shoes 1984 16
In Neon 1985 38
Wrap her up 1985 20
Thats what friends are for 1986 1
Nikita 1986 7
Flames of Paradise 1987 36
Candle in the Wind (live) 1988 6
I dont wanna go on with you like that 1988 2
A word in spanish 1988 19
Healing Hands 1989 13
Sacrifice 1990 18
Club at the end of the street 1990 28
Dont let the sun (live w/george michael) 1991 1
The one 1992 9
The last song 1992 23
Simple Life 1993 30
Can you feel the love tonight 1994 4
Circle of Life 1994 18
Believe 1995 13
Blessed 1996 34
Englands Rose 1997 1
Englands Rose 1998 1
Written in the Stars (w/Leann Rimes) 1999 39



Some have argued that it ended in 1998 when he didnt have a chart entry, but according to Billboard it still stood because his Number one hit single "Englands Rose" carried over from 1997 and was still in the top 40 in 1998, so they said it was still valid because thats how they count it, even so, no one was close anyway so the argument was useless.

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Reply #10 posted 02/02/08 11:08am

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Some have argued that it ended in 1998 when he didnt have a chart entry, but according to Billboard it still stood because his Number one hit single "Englands Rose" carried over from 1997 and was still in the top 40 in 1998, so they said it was still valid because thats how they count it, even so, no one was close anyway so the argument was useless.


Englands Rose wasn't a new entry but damned if somehow it pulls its weight. What a mega phenomenon that was.
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Cinnie said:

lastdecember said:

Some have argued that it ended in 1998 when he didnt have a chart entry, but according to Billboard it still stood because his Number one hit single "Englands Rose" carried over from 1997 and was still in the top 40 in 1998, so they said it was still valid because thats how they count it, even so, no one was close anyway so the argument was useless.


Englands Rose wasn't a new entry but damned if somehow it pulls its weight. What a mega phenomenon that was.


Yeah Billboard lets it stand as a 1970-1999 run, it was someone that he written them a letter asking if it should have ended in 1998, but they said it didnt matter when the single was released, since it carried over into the year and was still a fixture in the Top 40. And even more amazing is that Elton rarely had a single miss the top 40, in fact the number during this times of songs released of his that didnt make the top 40 were 4!!! That in itself is amazing, to stay relevant to radio and buyers for that long every year. And one of those 4 that missed was "Tiny Dancer" peaking at No. 41, which is considered one of his trademark songs ironically.

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Reply #12 posted 02/02/08 12:13pm

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lastdecember said:

Cinnie said:



Englands Rose wasn't a new entry but damned if somehow it pulls its weight. What a mega phenomenon that was.


Yeah Billboard lets it stand as a 1970-1999 run, it was someone that he written them a letter asking if it should have ended in 1998, but they said it didnt matter when the single was released, since it carried over into the year and was still a fixture in the Top 40. And even more amazing is that Elton rarely had a single miss the top 40, in fact the number during this times of songs released of his that didnt make the top 40 were 4!!! That in itself is amazing, to stay relevant to radio and buyers for that long every year. And one of those 4 that missed was "Tiny Dancer" peaking at No. 41, which is considered one of his trademark songs ironically.


I was thinking! There has got to be some amazing 70s ones that didn't hit the top 40 but are still essential enough to be on that compilation...

this is the compilation i kept thinking of but didn't examine its tracklist, of which there are many variations in the world markets:

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Reply #13 posted 02/02/08 12:56pm

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I like this song. One of the better ones from around that period. If I'm not mistaken, there's a French version of this too.
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