I was over at okayplayer.com and they have an interesting thread on BoyzIIMen and trying to figure out what happened with them. I was such a huge fan of this group. Yes their music was quite sacchrin and too sweet. They were overloaded with cheesy albeit well written ballads that were just not realistic at all.

Yet and still they were excellent vocalists with real fine tuned harmonies. I just never liked their subject matter. It was too tame and too sugary with no soul. After 1995 with the likes of D'angelo, Maxwell, Erykah singing about real issues regarding love & sex, their fairytale shit just got too stale for the consumers taste.

They couldn't adjust their sound to be more adult and off the cuff. They became cookie-cutter and predictable.

I know they have a motown covers album and they have an international release called the rememdy. Has anyone heard of these.

Let's talk about thier previous work.....

They just seem 2 over saturate themselves. They were any and EVERY where. People burned out on seeing them, plus I think the baritone of the group either lost his voice or died.

Graycap23 said:

He didn't lose his voice or die. He left because he had scoliosis really bad and could barely perform. He had to sit down during the entire evolution tour and he's quoted as saying he didn't get alot of support from the other 3 members for his conditions.

I just wish there was a scandal that came out about them or something or some famous woman come foward and talk about them and how they were in bed.

I mean the only celebrity woman who's associated with dating them is Brandy and how bland is that.

Graycap23 said:

He didn't lose his voice or die. He left because he had scoliosis really bad and could barely perform. He had to sit down during the entire evolution tour and he's quoted as saying he didn't get alot of support from the other 3 members for his conditions.

I just wish there was a scandal that came out about them or something or some famous woman come foward and talk about them and how they were in bed.

I mean the only celebrity woman who's associated with dating them is Brandy and how bland is that.

boyz 2 men are finished

nobody cares anymore

even though the lead singer with glasses is actually Penfold from Danger Mouse, its still not enough.

penfold, where is danger mouse when you need him?

I was over at okayplayer.com and they have an interesting thread on BoyzIIMen and trying to figure out what happened with them. I was such a huge fan of this group. Yes their music was quite sacchrin and too sweet. They were overloaded with cheesy albeit well written ballads that were just not realistic at all.

Yet and still they were excellent vocalists with real fine tuned harmonies. I just never liked their subject matter. It was too tame and too sugary with no soul. After 1995 with the likes of D'angelo, Maxwell, Erykah singing about real issues regarding love & sex, their fairytale shit just got too stale for the consumers taste.

They couldn't adjust their sound to be more adult and off the cuff. They became cookie-cutter and predictable.
I know they have a motown covers album and they have an international release called the rememdy. Has anyone heard of these.

Let's talk about thier previous work.....

jazzcherrymoon said:

Exactly. I love their first three albums and I think they're one of the best r&b vocal groups ever but they just weren't growing or maturing as artists and all those cover songs they started doing certainly didn't help matters.

as far as mike the bass singer, yeah he has scoliosis (curvature of the spine) and couldn't tour anymore.

i saw them last year (even made a thread about it)...they're nice guys, but like 95% of musical acts from the 80's and 90's, they just aren't relevant anymore. i bought both the remedy and their recent motown covers cd, and they're both average, at best. the remedy contains some lyrics that i was kinda shocked from bIIm (especially n****a), and the covers cd, well they just picked songs that you really can't improve on. as far as mike the bass singer, yeah he has scoliosis (curvature of the spine) and couldn't tour anymore. asfar as i can ell, the other members still have families to feed, so they decided to go on without him. the same thing happened to russell thompkins of the stylistics--he lost his voice for awhile, and the others went without him and replaced him (steve perry too, i think). their stage show was okay, but they sang to recorded tracks, nathan had a bad cold and could hardly sing, and they cut out all parts of the songs that had mike in it (strange because the most memorable parts of their hits are ususally mike talking).

me and shawn, wanya and nathan

Your absolutley right. I was reading some of the lyrics to "The Rmemdy" and I was shocked myself. I was titalated because I thought there would be some danger or seduction, but when I listened to it, it sounded like corny men trying to be hard and sexy and it just wasn't delivered properly.

Not to get on a tangent but I was listening to "The Screams of Passion" for the 800th time and I thought Shawn would sound so good singing that. They should of dod songs like that with that kind of drama and sexuality.

But they needed a strange virtuosio like our beloved "Kid" to get that kind of magic.

Babyface could never right shit so potent like that.

Just listening to that song gets me so excited and so aroused and intrigued by the lyrisim. That's the kind of songwriting and music they should have turned too after everybody wanted to be thugs.

Go to the left BOYZ.....always go left of center.


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I saw them with En Vogue in 2006. I was still impressed with them vocally.


Talented dudes.


Talent isn't wanted nowadays.

I saw them and K-ci and jojo on the same bill last year.

Wanye was ripping and was far superior to K-ci, Jojo and the other Boyz.
Was very impressed!

Yeah I agree they could use a new direction and producer. They've done the sugary love ballads with the smooth Babyface type production to death. Some great songs came out of it, but it's time to move on!

They need [b]Raphael Saadiq or Prince [/b]to write them some songs.

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They were too cookie, and then the entrance of "Bad Boy Image Groups" like Jagged Edge, H-Town, Jodeci and the like brought a new vibe and made it more "sexual" than "love". The fans got tired of the nice guy shit and wanted the thug/bad boy shit.

Being capable of singing well is a long way from singing songs that touch people. Somebody should tell them that. They are the Kings Of Oversinging. They restrained themselves somewhat on their Motown covers album, but not nearly enough.

They make totally irrelevant and pointless music. They are like New Edition in the sense that they are always out-smarting themselves. They choose producers and writers that they don't have to pay much, and since they are terrible producers and writers themselves you get bad album after bad album.

Babyface and Dallas were able to get just enough out of those guys, but not too much. But fame went to their heads and now they think they can do it all. Play Babyface's new cover song album then any of BoysIIMen's 2 weak cover albums afterward and you will hear a dramatic quality difference in the music.

Rhondab said:

Speaking of which.....What The Fuck Ever Happened To EnVogue?????

Rhondab said:

Speaking of which.....What The Fuck Ever Happened To EnVogue?????

chile they names their album EVOLUTION...

is done after that

paisleypark4 said:

Yeah that was corny wasn't it? The funny thing is that there was nothing "evolved" about that album at all. It was formulaic garbage. I went to that tour too, they had Next and Destiny Child open up for them.

The show wasn't all that great at all.