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Reply #60 posted 01/27/08 9:57am

Timmy84

Rodya24 said:

midnightmover said:


I'm pleased to say I don't even know "You Are My Life". I borrowed the album from a friend at the time and just recorded the five decent songs on there. The rest was just shockingly bad. The History tour wiped out any remaining fire in MJ's belly, and that's why he sleepwalked into Invincible. Pile the 2003-5 trial on top of that and you have nothing more than a walking shell left. Personally I think Michael should make a clean break and announce his retirement from recording. He can still make money touring, but he's fooling no-one with all this talk about "my passion for making music".


I also think the whole fiasco with SONY from 1999 on need to be taken into account when considering what he decided to leave on Invincible. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe he refused to give SONY some of his best tracks due to his struggle with the then head of SONY Music.


That's what I keep hearing too. That he decided to put some shitty tracks on there just for them to get off his back. shrug
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Reply #61 posted 01/27/08 9:59am

Rodya24

Vanilli said:

Rodya24 said:



I disagree. Some people hate that song, but others think it is fantastic. Check out Robert Christgau's (a well-known rock critic who is a huge Prince fan) review of Invincible.


I like SOME of the stuff on Invincible, but I'd say 60% of it is garbage. It isn't that I don't like Michael, and I hate it when a lot of fans have this attitude, "If you don't like Invincible, you don't like Michael." That is some lame-o shit.

I remember the day I bought Invincible. I had high hopes for that record. "You Rock My World" was (second to "Scream") my favorite debut single in Michael's history. I loved it. I still do.

Then I got the album, and it kinda went like this, it had ups and downs. For me a listener, every album since Thriller, I've liked EVERY song. The words MJ and filler didn't go together. (Say what you will but I love "Childhood" and "Little Susie.")

Here is MY breakdown of Invincible


GREAT
You Rock My World
Butterflies
Speechless
Cry
Whatever Happens


TOLERABLE/BORDER-LINE CRAP
Unbreakable
Invincible
Break Of Dawn
You Are My Life
Privacy
Threatened



CRAP
Heartbreaker
Heaven Can Wait
2000 Watts
Don't Walk Away (Did this slow ass shit really get an appreciation thread on the org? What the hell?)
The Lost Children

Now for any other artist, that would make for a pretty decent record. But for me, MJ's albums have in the past, been EVERY song in the GREAT category. With this album, he tarnished his track record with me. I'm not saying Invincible didn't have its moments, but compared to his past, it is total crap.
[Edited 1/27/08 9:33am]


It seems that with the exception of the hardcore fanatics, most MJ fans have a negative opinion of Invincible. But there are some who genuinely love the album.

Some of the songs were excellent, imo. I often listen to "Unbreakable," "Break of Dawn," "Butterflies," "Don't Walk Away," and "Whatever Happens."
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Reply #62 posted 01/27/08 9:59am

Rodya24

Timmy84 said:

Rodya24 said:



I also think the whole fiasco with SONY from 1999 on need to be taken into account when considering what he decided to leave on Invincible. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe he refused to give SONY some of his best tracks due to his struggle with the then head of SONY Music.


That's what I keep hearing too. That he decided to put some shitty tracks on there just for them to get off his back. shrug


He should never have told Tommy M. that he was going to leave SONY in 1999.
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Reply #63 posted 01/27/08 10:02am

Timmy84

Rodya24 said:

Vanilli said:



I like SOME of the stuff on Invincible, but I'd say 60% of it is garbage. It isn't that I don't like Michael, and I hate it when a lot of fans have this attitude, "If you don't like Invincible, you don't like Michael." That is some lame-o shit.

I remember the day I bought Invincible. I had high hopes for that record. "You Rock My World" was (second to "Scream") my favorite debut single in Michael's history. I loved it. I still do.

Then I got the album, and it kinda went like this, it had ups and downs. For me a listener, every album since Thriller, I've liked EVERY song. The words MJ and filler didn't go together. (Say what you will but I love "Childhood" and "Little Susie.")

Here is MY breakdown of Invincible


GREAT
You Rock My World
Butterflies
Speechless
Cry
Whatever Happens


TOLERABLE/BORDER-LINE CRAP
Unbreakable
Invincible
Break Of Dawn
You Are My Life
Privacy
Threatened



CRAP
Heartbreaker
Heaven Can Wait
2000 Watts
Don't Walk Away (Did this slow ass shit really get an appreciation thread on the org? What the hell?)
The Lost Children

Now for any other artist, that would make for a pretty decent record. But for me, MJ's albums have in the past, been EVERY song in the GREAT category. With this album, he tarnished his track record with me. I'm not saying Invincible didn't have its moments, but compared to his past, it is total crap.
[Edited 1/27/08 9:33am]


It seems that with the exception of the hardcore fanatics, most MJ fans have a negative opinion of Invincible. But there are some who genuinely love the album.

Some of the songs were excellent, imo. I often listen to "Unbreakable," "Break of Dawn," "Butterflies," "Don't Walk Away," and "Whatever Happens."


The three absolute BEST tracks on that album!!!! EVER!
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Reply #64 posted 01/27/08 10:05am

Timmy84

Rodya24 said:

Timmy84 said:



That's what I keep hearing too. That he decided to put some shitty tracks on there just for them to get off his back. shrug


He should never have told Tommy M. that he was going to leave SONY in 1999.


That's what he gets for running his big fat mouth (sensitive my ass, lol). evillol He had to end up "leaving" in 2002 when Sony wouldn't "promote" the record. I think all parties (Mike/Sony) were as guilty in the promotion of "Invincible". But you know? I have to get credit, it actually sold well. Just wished the material was better. shrug Some MJ fans think if you say "oh it sucks", it's because the album didn't sell 30 million. Uh...no. evillol
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Reply #65 posted 01/27/08 10:24am

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Rodya24 said:

midnightmover said:


I'm pleased to say I don't even know "You Are My Life". I borrowed the album from a friend at the time and just recorded the five decent songs on there. The rest was just shockingly bad. The History tour wiped out any remaining fire in MJ's belly, and that's why he sleepwalked into Invincible. Pile the 2003-5 trial on top of that and you have nothing more than a walking shell left. Personally I think Michael should make a clean break and announce his retirement from recording. He can still make money touring, but he's fooling no-one with all this talk about "my passion for making music".


I also think the whole fiasco with SONY from 1999 on need to be taken into account when considering what he decided to leave on Invincible. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe he refused to give SONY some of his best tracks due to his struggle with the then head of SONY Music.

I'm the last person to correct you on that, since I don't know the first thing about it. lol I do remember hearing a song that got left off Invincible that was a lot more ambitious and more befitting an artist of Mike's calibre. I don't remember loving it, but it at least showed some kind of balls to write something that unique. I thought it was quite significant that he left it off in favour of generic r&b tracks. If he did release a weak album just to spite Sony, then shame on him for that too.
[Edited 1/27/08 10:25am]
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Reply #66 posted 01/27/08 11:30am

Timmy84

midnightmover said:

Rodya24 said:



I also think the whole fiasco with SONY from 1999 on need to be taken into account when considering what he decided to leave on Invincible. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe he refused to give SONY some of his best tracks due to his struggle with the then head of SONY Music.

I'm the last person to correct you on that, since I don't know the first thing about it. lol I do remember hearing a song that got left off Invincible that was a lot more ambitious and more befitting an artist of Mike's calibre. I don't remember loving it, but it at least showed some kind of balls to write something that unique. I thought it was quite significant that he left it off in favour of generic r&b tracks. If he did release a weak album just to spite Sony, then shame on him for that too.
[Edited 1/27/08 10:25am]


Yeah it's like damn if you do and damn if you don't. lol
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Reply #67 posted 01/27/08 4:34pm

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Vanilli said:

Rodya24 said:



I disagree. Some people hate that song, but others think it is fantastic. Check out Robert Christgau's (a well-known rock critic who is a huge Prince fan) review of Invincible.


I like SOME of the stuff on Invincible, but I'd say 60% of it is garbage. It isn't that I don't like Michael, and I hate it when a lot of fans have this attitude, "If you don't like Invincible, you don't like Michael." That is some lame-o shit.

I remember the day I bought Invincible. I had high hopes for that record. "You Rock My World" was (second to "Scream") my favorite debut single in Michael's history. I loved it. I still do.

Then I got the album, and it kinda went like this, it had ups and downs. For me a listener, every album since Thriller, I've liked EVERY song. The words MJ and filler didn't go together. (Say what you will but I love "Childhood" and "Little Susie.")

Here is MY breakdown of Invincible


GREAT
You Rock My World
Butterflies
Speechless
Cry
Whatever Happens


TOLERABLE/BORDER-LINE CRAP
Unbreakable
Invincible
Break Of Dawn
You Are My Life
Privacy
Threatened



CRAP
Heartbreaker
Heaven Can Wait
2000 Watts
Don't Walk Away (Did this slow ass shit really get an appreciation thread on the org? What the hell?)
The Lost Children

Now for any other artist, that would make for a pretty decent record. But for me, MJ's albums have in the past, been EVERY song in the GREAT category. With this album, he tarnished his track record with me. I'm not saying Invincible didn't have its moments, but compared to his past, it is total crap.
[Edited 1/27/08 9:33am]


I know that everyone has a personal taste when it comes to music but i think you should give Heaven can wait few more listens , the song is far away from crap, I think its a great tune...Give it more listens.
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Reply #68 posted 01/27/08 4:38pm

Timmy84

seeingvoices12 said:

Vanilli said:



I like SOME of the stuff on Invincible, but I'd say 60% of it is garbage. It isn't that I don't like Michael, and I hate it when a lot of fans have this attitude, "If you don't like Invincible, you don't like Michael." That is some lame-o shit.

I remember the day I bought Invincible. I had high hopes for that record. "You Rock My World" was (second to "Scream") my favorite debut single in Michael's history. I loved it. I still do.

Then I got the album, and it kinda went like this, it had ups and downs. For me a listener, every album since Thriller, I've liked EVERY song. The words MJ and filler didn't go together. (Say what you will but I love "Childhood" and "Little Susie.")

Here is MY breakdown of Invincible


GREAT
You Rock My World
Butterflies
Speechless
Cry
Whatever Happens


TOLERABLE/BORDER-LINE CRAP
Unbreakable
Invincible
Break Of Dawn
You Are My Life
Privacy
Threatened



CRAP
Heartbreaker
Heaven Can Wait
2000 Watts
Don't Walk Away (Did this slow ass shit really get an appreciation thread on the org? What the hell?)
The Lost Children

Now for any other artist, that would make for a pretty decent record. But for me, MJ's albums have in the past, been EVERY song in the GREAT category. With this album, he tarnished his track record with me. I'm not saying Invincible didn't have its moments, but compared to his past, it is total crap.
[Edited 1/27/08 9:33am]


I know that everyone has a personal taste when it comes to music but i think you should give Heaven can wait few more listens , the song is far away from crap, I think its a great tune...Give it more listens.


It's decent, but to be honest I only like when Michael loses it. lol He didn't go hee-hee or SHAMON! Just SANG that shit. That made me forgive the lyrics. evillol
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Reply #69 posted 01/27/08 4:46pm

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Timmy84 said:

seeingvoices12 said:



I know that everyone has a personal taste when it comes to music but i think you should give Heaven can wait few more listens , the song is far away from crap, I think its a great tune...Give it more listens.


It's decent, but to be honest I only like when Michael loses it. lol He didn't go hee-hee or SHAMON! Just SANG that shit. That made me forgive the lyrics. evillol

Its Not that kind of song that you like when you first hear it, the song should be given more and more listens in order to grow on you, thats what i think, I think its one of the best songs on Invinicble.....

The worst song there is definitely Privacy confused , its not melodic and unnatural and if you compare to his other rock songs , Privacy is nothing.
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Reply #70 posted 01/27/08 4:49pm

Timmy84

seeingvoices12 said:

Timmy84 said:



It's decent, but to be honest I only like when Michael loses it. lol He didn't go hee-hee or SHAMON! Just SANG that shit. That made me forgive the lyrics. evillol

Its Not that kind of song that you like when you first hear it, the song should be given more and more listens in order to grow on you, thats what i think, I think its one of the best songs on Invinicble.....

The worst song there is definitely Privacy confused , its not melodic and unnatural and if you compare to his other rock songs , Privacy is nothing.


Yeah there was no energy in "Privacy". Like I said he tries too hard to please people who think they would dig anything he puts out.
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Reply #71 posted 01/27/08 4:49pm

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Vanilli said:

Rodya24 said:



I disagree. Some people hate that song, but others think it is fantastic. Check out Robert Christgau's (a well-known rock critic who is a huge Prince fan) review of Invincible.


I like SOME of the stuff on Invincible, but I'd say 60% of it is garbage. It isn't that I don't like Michael, and I hate it when a lot of fans have this attitude, "If you don't like Invincible, you don't like Michael." That is some lame-o shit.

I remember the day I bought Invincible. I had high hopes for that record. "You Rock My World" was (second to "Scream") my favorite debut single in Michael's history. I loved it. I still do.

Then I got the album, and it kinda went like this, it had ups and downs. For me a listener, every album since Thriller, I've liked EVERY song. The words MJ and filler didn't go together. (Say what you will but I love "Childhood" and "Little Susie.")

Here is MY breakdown of Invincible


GREAT
You Rock My World
Butterflies
Speechless
Cry
Whatever Happens


TOLERABLE/BORDER-LINE CRAP
Unbreakable
Invincible
Break Of Dawn
You Are My Life
Privacy
Threatened



CRAP
Heartbreaker
Heaven Can Wait
2000 Watts
Don't Walk Away (Did this slow ass shit really get an appreciation thread on the org? What the hell?)
The Lost Children

Now for any other artist, that would make for a pretty decent record. But for me, MJ's albums have in the past, been EVERY song in the GREAT category. With this album, he tarnished his track record with me. I'm not saying Invincible didn't have its moments, but compared to his past, it is total crap.
[Edited 1/27/08 9:33am]

WTF? Don't Walk Away, Heaven Can Wait, Break of Dawn, and Unbreakable aren't crap! mad
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Reply #72 posted 01/27/08 4:52pm

Timmy84

bboy87 said:

Vanilli said:



I like SOME of the stuff on Invincible, but I'd say 60% of it is garbage. It isn't that I don't like Michael, and I hate it when a lot of fans have this attitude, "If you don't like Invincible, you don't like Michael." That is some lame-o shit.

I remember the day I bought Invincible. I had high hopes for that record. "You Rock My World" was (second to "Scream") my favorite debut single in Michael's history. I loved it. I still do.

Then I got the album, and it kinda went like this, it had ups and downs. For me a listener, every album since Thriller, I've liked EVERY song. The words MJ and filler didn't go together. (Say what you will but I love "Childhood" and "Little Susie.")

Here is MY breakdown of Invincible


GREAT
You Rock My World
Butterflies
Speechless
Cry
Whatever Happens


TOLERABLE/BORDER-LINE CRAP
Unbreakable
Invincible
Break Of Dawn
You Are My Life
Privacy
Threatened



CRAP
Heartbreaker
Heaven Can Wait
2000 Watts
Don't Walk Away (Did this slow ass shit really get an appreciation thread on the org? What the hell?)
The Lost Children

Now for any other artist, that would make for a pretty decent record. But for me, MJ's albums have in the past, been EVERY song in the GREAT category. With this album, he tarnished his track record with me. I'm not saying Invincible didn't have its moments, but compared to his past, it is total crap.
[Edited 1/27/08 9:33am]

WTF? Don't Walk Away, Heaven Can Wait, Break of Dawn, and Unbreakable aren't crap! mad


Here - use this next time you see him - brick

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Reply #73 posted 01/27/08 4:53pm

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bboy87 said:

Vanilli said:



I like SOME of the stuff on Invincible, but I'd say 60% of it is garbage. It isn't that I don't like Michael, and I hate it when a lot of fans have this attitude, "If you don't like Invincible, you don't like Michael." That is some lame-o shit.

I remember the day I bought Invincible. I had high hopes for that record. "You Rock My World" was (second to "Scream") my favorite debut single in Michael's history. I loved it. I still do.

Then I got the album, and it kinda went like this, it had ups and downs. For me a listener, every album since Thriller, I've liked EVERY song. The words MJ and filler didn't go together. (Say what you will but I love "Childhood" and "Little Susie.")

Here is MY breakdown of Invincible


GREAT
You Rock My World
Butterflies
Speechless
Cry
Whatever Happens


TOLERABLE/BORDER-LINE CRAP
Unbreakable
Invincible
Break Of Dawn
You Are My Life
Privacy
Threatened



CRAP
Heartbreaker
Heaven Can Wait
2000 Watts
Don't Walk Away (Did this slow ass shit really get an appreciation thread on the org? What the hell?)
The Lost Children

Now for any other artist, that would make for a pretty decent record. But for me, MJ's albums have in the past, been EVERY song in the GREAT category. With this album, he tarnished his track record with me. I'm not saying Invincible didn't have its moments, but compared to his past, it is total crap.
[Edited 1/27/08 9:33am]

WTF? Don't Walk Away, Heaven Can Wait, Break of Dawn, and Unbreakable aren't crap! mad

OMG, How come I didn't notice that he/she listed Break of dawn as a border-line crap eek eek eek , Thats preposterous . lol
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Reply #74 posted 01/27/08 4:54pm

Timmy84

seeingvoices12 said:

bboy87 said:


WTF? Don't Walk Away, Heaven Can Wait, Break of Dawn, and Unbreakable aren't crap! mad

OMG, How come I didn't notice that he/she listed Break of dawn as a border-line crap eek eek eek , Thats preposterous . lol


No that's ig-nuh-rant. lol

I love "Break of Dawn"!!! That's my shit! headbang
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Reply #75 posted 01/27/08 4:57pm

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Timmy84 said:

seeingvoices12 said:


OMG, How come I didn't notice that he/she listed Break of dawn as a border-line crap eek eek eek , Thats preposterous . lol


No that's ig-nuh-rant. lol

I love "Break of Dawn"!!! That's my shit! headbang


His vocals on the song are just lol lol , A truly great song.

His vocals is a message to people who say that Mj lost his voice ,which is a laugh lol
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Reply #76 posted 01/27/08 5:00pm

Timmy84

seeingvoices12 said:

Timmy84 said:



No that's ig-nuh-rant. lol

I love "Break of Dawn"!!! That's my shit! headbang


His vocals on the song are just lol lol , A truly great song.

His vocals is a message to people who say that Mj lost his voice ,which is a laugh lol
[Edited 1/27/08 16:59pm]


Nah it's more hah! The guy obviously can still sing! He just has had difficulty to do so as all singers do, lol. No one's perfect. wink
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Reply #77 posted 01/27/08 5:00pm

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Timmy84 said:

seeingvoices12 said:


OMG, How come I didn't notice that he/she listed Break of dawn as a border-line crap eek eek eek , Thats preposterous . lol


No that's ig-nuh-rant. lol

I love "Break of Dawn"!!! That's my shit! headbang

Somebody needs to take
Unbreakable
Invincible
Break of Dawn
Heaven Can Wait
You Rock My World
Butterflies
Don't Walk Away
Whatever Happens

and remix Unbreakable, Invincible, Heaven Can Wait, and You Rock My World. That would be a absolute improvement cool
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Reply #78 posted 01/27/08 5:04pm

Timmy84

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:



No that's ig-nuh-rant. lol

I love "Break of Dawn"!!! That's my shit! headbang

Somebody needs to take
Unbreakable
Invincible
Break of Dawn
Heaven Can Wait
You Rock My World
Butterflies
Don't Walk Away
Whatever Happens

and remix Unbreakable, Invincible, Heaven Can Wait, and You Rock My World. That would be a absolute improvement cool


nod Or change the tracklist around like have the uptempo jams and mid-tempos before the slower numbers and do what you suggest about remixing those songs. biggrin
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Reply #79 posted 01/27/08 5:09pm

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Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:


Somebody needs to take
Unbreakable
Invincible
Break of Dawn
Heaven Can Wait
You Rock My World
Butterflies
Don't Walk Away
Whatever Happens

and remix Unbreakable, Invincible, Heaven Can Wait, and You Rock My World. That would be a absolute improvement cool


nod Or change the tracklist around like have the uptempo jams and mid-tempos before the slower numbers and do what you suggest about remixing those songs. biggrin

This should've been the tracklisting:
Unbreakable
Invincible
Break of Dawn
Heaven Can Wait
You Rock My World
Butterflies
Don't Walk Away
Fall Again
Whatever Happens


You know some fans have some more unreleased tracks, so I'm just waiting for that day lol
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Reply #80 posted 01/27/08 5:14pm

Timmy84

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:



nod Or change the tracklist around like have the uptempo jams and mid-tempos before the slower numbers and do what you suggest about remixing those songs. biggrin

This should've been the tracklisting:
Unbreakable
Invincible
Break of Dawn
Heaven Can Wait
You Rock My World
Butterflies
Don't Walk Away
Fall Again
Whatever Happens


You know some fans have some more unreleased tracks, so I'm just waiting for that day lol


I know, right? lol It's like "what y'all waiting for, we know y'all got 'em!" LOL
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Timmy84 said:



nod Or change the tracklist around like have the uptempo jams and mid-tempos before the slower numbers and do what you suggest about remixing those songs. biggrin

This should've been the tracklisting:
Unbreakable
Invincible
Break of Dawn
Heaven Can Wait
You Rock My World
Butterflies
Don't Walk Away
Fall Again
Whatever Happens


You know some fans have some more unreleased tracks, so I'm just waiting for that day lol

S
Some very rare limited editions of Invinicble Have a song called She was lovin me Instead Of Threatened.
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Reply #82 posted 01/27/08 5:26pm

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Timmy84 said:

Rodya24 said:



I also think the whole fiasco with SONY from 1999 on need to be taken into account when considering what he decided to leave on Invincible. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe he refused to give SONY some of his best tracks due to his struggle with the then head of SONY Music.


That's what I keep hearing too. That he decided to put some shitty tracks on there just for them to get off his back. shrug


i will say this though i have a feeling i am gonna be told i am wrong but this kinda reminds me of the whole prince not giving WB any new songs only old stuff he hadnt used in the past (around the time he changed his name) lol

apart from the invincible signing in New York there was barely any promotion and this is probably due to both parties michael refusing to tour the album definately didnt help but then maybe he would have been more keen to tour it if sony had released the songs michael wanted to and put a bit more money/effort into other adverts

i guess michael turning up outside the london sony headquaters on a double decker red bus kinda counts as promotion though i doubt it was the kind sony wanted lol
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Reply #83 posted 01/27/08 5:45pm

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Timmy84 said:



That's what I keep hearing too. That he decided to put some shitty tracks on there just for them to get off his back. shrug


i will say this though i have a feeling i am gonna be told i am wrong but this kinda reminds me of the whole prince not giving WB any new songs only old stuff he hadnt used in the past (around the time he changed his name) lol

apart from the invincible signing in New York there was barely any promotion and this is probably due to both parties michael refusing to tour the album definately didnt help but then maybe he would have been more keen to tour it if sony had released the songs michael wanted to and put a bit more money/effort into other adverts

i guess michael turning up outside the london sony headquaters on a double decker red bus kinda counts as promotion though i doubt it was the kind sony wanted lol


Michael was doing that just to say "yeah I can picket too motherfucker!" lol
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Reply #84 posted 01/27/08 6:11pm

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i will say this though i have a feeling i am gonna be told i am wrong but this kinda reminds me of the whole prince not giving WB any new songs only old stuff he hadnt used in the past (around the time he changed his name) lol

apart from the invincible signing in New York there was barely any promotion and this is probably due to both parties michael refusing to tour the album definately didnt help but then maybe he would have been more keen to tour it if sony had released the songs michael wanted to and put a bit more money/effort into other adverts

i guess michael turning up outside the london sony headquaters on a double decker red bus kinda counts as promotion though i doubt it was the kind sony wanted lol


Michael was doing that just to say "yeah I can picket too motherfucker!" lol


and the big red bus helped get that point across i swear one day he is gonna fall off something like this cos he always is climbing over barriers trying to grab things from the fans below lol

i one thing that can be said about MJ fans, when it comes to it they definately can organise themselves
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Reply #85 posted 01/27/08 6:20pm

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Michael was doing that just to say "yeah I can picket too motherfucker!" lol


and the big red bus helped get that point across i swear one day he is gonna fall off something like this cos he always is climbing over barriers trying to grab things from the fans below lol

i one thing that can be said about MJ fans, when it comes to it they definately can organise themselves


I actually hate it when he does that. Like "why are you trying to be Tarzan and you're 50, Mike, STOP IT!" lol
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Reply #86 posted 01/27/08 6:24pm

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Timmy84 said:

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and the big red bus helped get that point across i swear one day he is gonna fall off something like this cos he always is climbing over barriers trying to grab things from the fans below lol

i one thing that can be said about MJ fans, when it comes to it they definately can organise themselves


I actually hate it when he does that. Like "why are you trying to be Tarzan and you're 50, Mike, STOP IT!" lol


well i guess we havent seen it for a while he seems more keen on the jumping on top of cars thing at the moment lol

i just love the faces of his security etc in the background when he does it:lol:
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Reply #87 posted 01/27/08 6:26pm

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I actually hate it when he does that. Like "why are you trying to be Tarzan and you're 50, Mike, STOP IT!" lol


well i guess we havent seen it for a while he seems more keen on the jumping on top of cars thing at the moment lol

i just love the faces of his security etc in the background when he does it lol


Motherfucker almost busted his ass climbing that tree! Remember that? Bruh can't even run! evillol
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Reply #88 posted 01/27/08 6:28pm

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I also think the whole fiasco with SONY from 1999 on need to be taken into account when considering what he decided to leave on Invincible. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe he refused to give SONY some of his best tracks due to his struggle with the then head of SONY Music.

I'm the last person to correct you on that, since I don't know the first thing about it. lol I do remember hearing a song that got left off Invincible that was a lot more ambitious and more befitting an artist of Mike's calibre. I don't remember loving it, but it at least showed some kind of balls to write something that unique. I thought it was quite significant that he left it off in favour of generic r&b tracks. If he did release a weak album just to spite Sony, then shame on him for that too.
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Well there was the B-Side of 'Cry' which was 'Shout'. That was ok, nothing special.

What I REALLY loved was the leaked song 'Xscape'. Now that to me was some classic MJ. I still love that song.
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Reply #89 posted 01/27/08 6:31pm

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Timmy84 said:

b3xy said:



well i guess we havent seen it for a while he seems more keen on the jumping on top of cars thing at the moment lol

i just love the faces of his security etc in the background when he does it lol


Motherfucker almost busted his ass climbing that tree! Remember that? Bruh can't even run! evillol

Aww damn! I forgot about that one! falloff
It wasn't the fact that he was climbing trees. It was the fact that he was climbing trees in MUTHAFUCKIN PENNY LOAFERS! lol
That's hard to do LOL Some of yall remember trying to climb trees and play in yo "church shoes"! lol
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