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Thread started 01/20/08 9:47am

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Alicia Keys singing MJ Human Nature

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Reply #1 posted 01/20/08 9:49am

HamsterHuey

She is kinda mumbling through it, ain't she?
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Reply #2 posted 01/20/08 9:53am

Graycap23

Is her 15 minutes up yet?
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Reply #3 posted 01/20/08 9:55am

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Well, the band was good, but they need to put an advert out for a new singer. lol
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Reply #4 posted 01/20/08 10:43am

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Not the worst I have heard from her.

THe studio version of no one is so out of key that this looks like Whitney in her prime for ALicia fans.

I truly want to like her, but her vocal performance is all over the place and her lower register is sloppy to say the least.

She is a mediocre talent at best, but she does play an instrument, so she gets a few passes but the problem is she is like Mary J. You never know how bad the vocals will be live.
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Reply #5 posted 01/20/08 11:04am

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Alexander O Neal - Fake

"You're a fake, baby/ You can't conceal it/ Know how I know?/ 'Cos I can feel it/ You're a fake"
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Reply #6 posted 01/20/08 11:16am

Rodya24

Good God. That was awful.

Also, is it just me or does anyone else notice that she have very little stage presence?
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Reply #7 posted 01/20/08 11:27am

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Rodya24 said:

Good God. That was awful.

Also, is it just me or does anyone else notice that she have very little stage presence?
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I've never seen such an awkward, clumsy performer outside of American Idol. Her judgement stinks too. Rewriting those great lyrics into something so trite. She must genuinely not realise how corny that is.
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Reply #8 posted 01/20/08 2:41pm

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alicia eats pussy and ass
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Reply #9 posted 01/20/08 2:53pm

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Is her 15 minutes up yet?

i wish... I NEVER thought she be around this long... plus i was confused.. when she won all those grammies.. and things like that... the same with john legend.. his music is just "ORDINARY" SONGS...
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Reply #10 posted 01/20/08 3:06pm

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Good God. That was awful.


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Reply #11 posted 01/20/08 3:08pm

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Wow im not even going to get into defending Alicia, mainly because people are always thinking "why isnt she this or that", let people develop, this is why i say everybody signed to a contract should have to do at least one album a year, because than so many people would drop off the face of the music scene, and im not talking Alicia, there are hundreds of others that would drop long before her. Its so funny to read hate on Alicia and than see praise on Rihanna, are you kidding me? The same thing goes with hate for John Legend and others and than ever ending praise on Van Hunt, who IMO is good, but he isnt doing anything that LENNY didnt do for the last 20 years, so i mean talk about a huge double standard their. Do you seriously think Van hunt is not biting styles? And also who the hell out there isnt biting styles and sounds? thats what everything since the 80's has been about, biting, sampling, covering and stealing.

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Reply #12 posted 01/20/08 3:17pm

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Wow im not even going to get into defending Alicia, mainly because people are always thinking "why isnt she this or that", let people develop, this is why i say everybody signed to a contract should have to do at least one album a year, because than so many people would drop off the face of the music scene, and im not talking Alicia, there are hundreds of others that would drop long before her. Its so funny to read hate on Alicia and than see praise on Rihanna, are you kidding me? The same thing goes with hate for John Legend and others and than ever ending praise on Van Hunt, who IMO is good, but he isnt doing anything that LENNY didnt do for the last 20 years, so i mean talk about a huge double standard their. Do you seriously think Van hunt is not biting styles? And also who the hell out there isnt biting styles and sounds? thats what everything since the 80's has been about, biting, sampling, covering and stealing.


whofarted

Alicia Keys has had seven years to develop. I think she debuted in 2001 and has had three studio albums.

It is obvious that she is a mediocre performer and has horrible stage presence. Her singing Human Nature is mediocrity at its finest.

And who praised Rihanna? Everyone on the Org thinks she is a mediocre talent as well. Except she has had great singles.
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Reply #13 posted 01/20/08 3:18pm

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Wow im not even going to get into defending Alicia, mainly because people are always thinking "why isnt she this or that", let people develop, this is why i say everybody signed to a contract should have to do at least one album a year, because than so many people would drop off the face of the music scene, and im not talking Alicia, there are hundreds of others that would drop long before her. Its so funny to read hate on Alicia and than see praise on Rihanna, are you kidding me? The same thing goes with hate for John Legend and others and than ever ending praise on Van Hunt, who IMO is good, but he isnt doing anything that LENNY didnt do for the last 20 years, so i mean talk about a huge double standard their. Do you seriously think Van hunt is not biting styles? And also who the hell out there isnt biting styles and sounds? thats what everything since the 80's has been about, biting, sampling, covering and stealing.


Ironically, Rihanna's music has shown more growth in 3 albums than Alicia's has.
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Wow im not even going to get into defending Alicia, mainly because people are always thinking "why isnt she this or that", let people develop, this is why i say everybody signed to a contract should have to do at least one album a year, because than so many people would drop off the face of the music scene, and im not talking Alicia, there are hundreds of others that would drop long before her. Its so funny to read hate on Alicia and than see praise on Rihanna, are you kidding me? The same thing goes with hate for John Legend and others and than ever ending praise on Van Hunt, who IMO is good, but he isnt doing anything that LENNY didnt do for the last 20 years, so i mean talk about a huge double standard their. Do you seriously think Van hunt is not biting styles? And also who the hell out there isnt biting styles and sounds? thats what everything since the 80's has been about, biting, sampling, covering and stealing.

alicia is boring.. so is john... my mom never listens to that kind of music.. and heard one of her songs.. used in a commerical for that wedding movie.. and my mom absolutely dislikes the way alicia keys sings, that song and her music...

john legend got to much praise.... he doesn't deserve it... period... and same with alicia...

the reason why people like rihanna is because she has style, cute, and fun catchy songs... she is taking risks with style and music...

alicia keeps making those same old boring songs... same song and its boring.. she is now trying to dress "sexy" but its NOT working for me... she acts to masculine for me... I could not hang around a woman that aggressive...
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Reply #15 posted 01/20/08 3:18pm

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lastdecember said:

Wow im not even going to get into defending Alicia, mainly because people are always thinking "why isnt she this or that", let people develop, this is why i say everybody signed to a contract should have to do at least one album a year, because than so many people would drop off the face of the music scene, and im not talking Alicia, there are hundreds of others that would drop long before her. Its so funny to read hate on Alicia and than see praise on Rihanna, are you kidding me? The same thing goes with hate for John Legend and others and than ever ending praise on Van Hunt, who IMO is good, but he isnt doing anything that LENNY didnt do for the last 20 years, so i mean talk about a huge double standard their. Do you seriously think Van hunt is not biting styles? And also who the hell out there isnt biting styles and sounds? thats what everything since the 80's has been about, biting, sampling, covering and stealing.


whofarted

Alicia Keys has had seven years to develop. I think she debuted in 2001 and has had three studio albums.

It is obvious that she is a mediocre performer and has horrible stage presence. Her singing Human Nature is mediocrity at its finest.

And who praised Rihanna? Everyone on the Org thinks she is a mediocre talent as well. Except she has had great singles.


Yeah, it's the same old shit from Alicia and John album after album.
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Reply #16 posted 01/20/08 3:20pm

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alicia eats pussy and ass

Yeah, but not with much stage presence.
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Reply #17 posted 01/20/08 3:25pm

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lastdecember said:

Wow im not even going to get into defending Alicia, mainly because people are always thinking "why isnt she this or that", let people develop, this is why i say everybody signed to a contract should have to do at least one album a year, because than so many people would drop off the face of the music scene, and im not talking Alicia, there are hundreds of others that would drop long before her. Its so funny to read hate on Alicia and than see praise on Rihanna, are you kidding me? The same thing goes with hate for John Legend and others and than ever ending praise on Van Hunt, who IMO is good, but he isnt doing anything that LENNY didnt do for the last 20 years, so i mean talk about a huge double standard their. Do you seriously think Van hunt is not biting styles? And also who the hell out there isnt biting styles and sounds? thats what everything since the 80's has been about, biting, sampling, covering and stealing.

alicia is boring.. so is john... my mom never listens to that kind of music.. and heard one of her songs.. used in a commerical for that wedding movie.. and my mom absolutely dislikes the way alicia keys sings, that song and her music...

john legend got to much praise.... he doesn't deserve it... period... and same with alicia...

the reason why people like rihanna is because she has style, cute, and fun catchy songs... she is taking risks with style and music...

alicia keeps making those same old boring songs... same song and its boring.. she is now trying to dress "sexy" but its NOT working for me... she acts to masculine for me... I could not hang around a woman that aggressive...


Well boring is up to the person.....people say Ryan Adams is boring and yet he is easily the best artist over the last decade. Just because you make "catchy" songs doesnt make you good, or not boring. Beyonce makes catchy songs but i listen to hear records about 2-3 times than file them away and pull out some real RB singers. As far Rihanna, sorry dont wanna have this USELESS discussiong but she isnt taking any risks, her career is handed to her. Her taking a risk would be her executive producing and engineering her own album. She can talk to me in 10 years to see if she warrants the title of artist, but so far she hasnt proven anything but a few catchy songs, which, sorry anyone can do, when you sample and build you hype over beats.

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Reply #18 posted 01/20/08 3:29pm

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lastdecember said:

Wow im not even going to get into defending Alicia, mainly because people are always thinking "why isnt she this or that", let people develop, this is why i say everybody signed to a contract should have to do at least one album a year, because than so many people would drop off the face of the music scene, and im not talking Alicia, there are hundreds of others that would drop long before her. Its so funny to read hate on Alicia and than see praise on Rihanna, are you kidding me? The same thing goes with hate for John Legend and others and than ever ending praise on Van Hunt, who IMO is good, but he isnt doing anything that LENNY didnt do for the last 20 years, so i mean talk about a huge double standard their. Do you seriously think Van hunt is not biting styles? And also who the hell out there isnt biting styles and sounds? thats what everything since the 80's has been about, biting, sampling, covering and stealing.


Ironically, Rihanna's music has shown more growth in 3 albums than Alicia's has.


Wow you really have got to be kidding me, since one doesnt even have input in her own career, wow that just blows my mind.

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Reply #19 posted 01/20/08 3:32pm

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lastdecember said:

VoicesCarry said:



Ironically, Rihanna's music has shown more growth in 3 albums than Alicia's has.


Wow you really have got to be kidding me, since one doesnt even have input in her own career, wow that just blows my mind.


I didn't say "Rihanna", I said "Rihanna's music", whether it is created by her or not. Chill.

Alicia's a one-trick pony.
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lastdecember said:

Wow im not even going to get into defending Alicia, mainly because people are always thinking "why isnt she this or that", let people develop, this is why i say everybody signed to a contract should have to do at least one album a year, because than so many people would drop off the face of the music scene, and im not talking Alicia, there are hundreds of others that would drop long before her. Its so funny to read hate on Alicia and than see praise on Rihanna, are you kidding me? The same thing goes with hate for John Legend and others and than ever ending praise on Van Hunt, who IMO is good, but he isnt doing anything that LENNY didnt do for the last 20 years, so i mean talk about a huge double standard their. Do you seriously think Van hunt is not biting styles? And also who the hell out there isnt biting styles and sounds? thats what everything since the 80's has been about, biting, sampling, covering and stealing.


whofarted

Alicia Keys has had seven years to develop. I think she debuted in 2001 and has had three studio albums.

It is obvious that she is a mediocre performer and has horrible stage presence. Her singing Human Nature is mediocrity at its finest.

And who praised Rihanna? Everyone on the Org thinks she is a mediocre talent as well. Except she has had great singles.


Well sorry you missed it but Alicia is light years better on CD 3 than she was on CD 1, cd 1 was garbage, the praise was nothing more than the HYPE machine we see over every single record. I would take songs like "I need You" and "Sure Looks good to me" and thats shit she would have never done in 2001. And whats with this "develop" crap i see, like theres a timetable on how quick they have to impress us, they arent building their HYPE the labels do it, so if you dont like it write the label and complain about the HYPE they put up on their artists. And also she is singing someone elses track on this clip, a legends track, everyone and their mother will suck singing it and has. Its like everytime PRINCE puts out a new cd and everyone complains that "what happend to the guy who did Sign of the times", if you keep comparing you are always gonna be let down is what i tell prince fans longing for that GUY to come back, HE ISNT GONNA.

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VoicesCarry said:

lastdecember said:



Wow you really have got to be kidding me, since one doesnt even have input in her own career, wow that just blows my mind.


I didn't say "Rihanna", I said "Rihanna's music", whether it is created by her or not. Chill.

Alicia's a one-trick pony.
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Ok whatever, comparing a "pop star" that has no control over their career to someone that can actually go in a studio and do their own album when they want is useless.

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Reply #22 posted 01/20/08 3:53pm

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lastdecember said:

Rodya24 said:



whofarted

Alicia Keys has had seven years to develop. I think she debuted in 2001 and has had three studio albums.

It is obvious that she is a mediocre performer and has horrible stage presence. Her singing Human Nature is mediocrity at its finest.

And who praised Rihanna? Everyone on the Org thinks she is a mediocre talent as well. Except she has had great singles.


Well sorry you missed it but Alicia is light years better on CD 3 than she was on CD 1, cd 1 was garbage, the praise was nothing more than the HYPE machine we see over every single record. I would take songs like "I need You" and "Sure Looks good to me" and thats shit she would have never done in 2001. And also she is singing someone elses track on this clip, a legends track, everyone and their mother will suck singing it and has. Its like everytime PRINCE puts out a new cd and everyone complains that "what happend to the guy who did Sign of the times", if you keep comparing you are always gonna be let down is what i tell prince fans longing for that GUY to come back, HE ISNT GONNA.

Everyone and their mother would not be so crass as to rewrite such a great lyric into something so hopelessly corny. That alone should tell you that this person just is not an artist. No-one with an artist's sensibility would do something so misguided. Imagine covering a Bob Dylan tune and replacing the lyrics with your own generic fluff. You would expose yourself as a clueless wannabe right away. Alicia's done that many times. But you find her hugely attractive, so it's no good trying to make you see the light. You are someone who is swayed by his dick far too much.
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Reply #23 posted 01/20/08 3:59pm

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lastdecember said:

VoicesCarry said:



I didn't say "Rihanna", I said "Rihanna's music", whether it is created by her or not. Chill.

Alicia's a one-trick pony.
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Ok whatever, comparing a "pop star" that has no control over their career to someone that can actually go in a studio and do their own album when they want is useless.


Actually it is useful, because it demonstrates that Alicia making 0 musical progress over 7 years is not suitable considering her purported talent. She's still making songs that sound exactly like old hits, and all her tracks sound like they were done better by someone with ability.
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lastdecember said:



Well sorry you missed it but Alicia is light years better on CD 3 than she was on CD 1, cd 1 was garbage, the praise was nothing more than the HYPE machine we see over every single record. I would take songs like "I need You" and "Sure Looks good to me" and thats shit she would have never done in 2001. And also she is singing someone elses track on this clip, a legends track, everyone and their mother will suck singing it and has. Its like everytime PRINCE puts out a new cd and everyone complains that "what happend to the guy who did Sign of the times", if you keep comparing you are always gonna be let down is what i tell prince fans longing for that GUY to come back, HE ISNT GONNA.

Everyone and their mother would not be so crass as to rewrite such a great lyric into something so hopelessly corny. That alone should tell you that this person just is not an artist. No-one with an artist's sensibility would do something so misguided. Imagine covering a Bob Dylan tune and replacing the lyrics with your own generic fluff. You would expose yourself as a clueless wannabe right away. Alicia's done that many times. But you find her hugely attractive, so it's no good trying to make you see the light. You are someone who is swayed by his dick far too much.
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Everyone who samples and covers re-writes classic artists, i think we should blast them all, Destinys Child changing words to the Bee Gees song, Black Eyed Peas and almost every artist associated with the John Lennon "Darfur" album, that re-wrote his lyrics to do their stupid "takes" and "raps" on his work. And for the record i DONT find her attractive, so as usual an assumption you have no clue on the artists i like or listen to. I could point out how so many artists on this site that we praise are nothing more than WANNABE's all stealing from the past.

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lastdecember said:



Ok whatever, comparing a "pop star" that has no control over their career to someone that can actually go in a studio and do their own album when they want is useless.


Actually it is useful, because it demonstrates that Alicia making 0 musical progress over 7 years is not suitable considering her purported talent. She's still making songs that sound exactly like old hits, and all her tracks sound like they were done better by someone with ability.


Really there again your judgement, i see more progress in her from CD1 to CD 3, and if people cant hear it than whatever. Her talent is what her label makes it, its not her saying IM GREAT like so many people like (justin kanye ) do 24/7. Her first cd was total shit, and sorry but just tracks like the ones i pointed out "i need you" and "sure looks good to me" show growth. I mean if we started checking growth in the music industry, 99% of it would be gone. I had a debate about this with someone who said BEYONCE was the artist of this decade and i pointed out Ryan Adams was. Main reason, BEYONCE is the Popular artist of the decade, just like the 90's had Mariah Carey, but neither were the artists of the decade, big difference. Ryan exceeds beyonce or pretty much everyone else because he just doesnt give a shit, his craft is making music, and not worrying about what the listener wants. This is why i exclude Beyonce and Mariah from being the "artists" of the decade, they were popular and made catchy songs but they were guided by a chart to what they would create all the time.

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VoicesCarry said:

lastdecember said:



Ok whatever, comparing a "pop star" that has no control over their career to someone that can actually go in a studio and do their own album when they want is useless.


Actually it is useful, because it demonstrates that Alicia making 0 musical progress over 7 years is not suitable considering her purported talent. She's still making songs that sound exactly like old hits, and all her tracks sound like they were done better by someone with ability.


So then where is their growth in a POP artist that uses the same producers and writers that everyone else uses and sounds just like everyone else to just to have a hit single? I mean this can be applied to many artists, and even great artists like Prince. As far as not growing well its up to the person to decide, like i said before, artists could care less if the public thinks they have grown, at the end of the day if you are an artist you do for you first, if you do for anyone else than you arent an artist plain and simple. As for having 7 years well, like i have said before everyone should have to record at least once a year, or at least cut out the other meaningless things like acting and having clothing lines and shit like that. I want to see people put out a cd every year, or are the only ones that can do it Ryan Adams, Norah Jones and John Mellencamp.

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Reply #27 posted 01/20/08 4:32pm

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lastdecember said:

VoicesCarry said:



Actually it is useful, because it demonstrates that Alicia making 0 musical progress over 7 years is not suitable considering her purported talent. She's still making songs that sound exactly like old hits, and all her tracks sound like they were done better by someone with ability.


Really there again your judgement, i see more progress in her from CD1 to CD 3, and if people cant hear it than whatever. Her talent is what her label makes it, its not her saying IM GREAT like so many people like (justin kanye ) do 24/7. Her first cd was total shit, and sorry but just tracks like the ones i pointed out "i need you" and "sure looks good to me" show growth. I mean if we started checking growth in the music industry, 99% of it would be gone. I had a debate about this with someone who said BEYONCE was the artist of this decade and i pointed out Ryan Adams was. Main reason, BEYONCE is the Popular artist of the decade, just like the 90's had Mariah Carey, but neither were the artists of the decade, big difference. Ryan exceeds beyonce or pretty much everyone else because he just doesnt give a shit, his craft is making music, and not worrying about what the listener wants. This is why i exclude Beyonce and Mariah from being the "artists" of the decade, they were popular and made catchy songs but they were guided by a chart to what they would create all the time.


Well a lot of people on the org can't hear it, either, so yup - whatever, indeed. Whatever, Alicia.
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Reply #28 posted 01/20/08 4:36pm

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For the record I think

Van Cunt sucks
Alicia Please sucks her gf's peesh
E.T. Rihanna sucks
John Legend sucksKanye
Bigonce sucks


As you were
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Reply #29 posted 01/20/08 4:44pm

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VoicesCarry said:

lastdecember said:



Really there again your judgement, i see more progress in her from CD1 to CD 3, and if people cant hear it than whatever. Her talent is what her label makes it, its not her saying IM GREAT like so many people like (justin kanye ) do 24/7. Her first cd was total shit, and sorry but just tracks like the ones i pointed out "i need you" and "sure looks good to me" show growth. I mean if we started checking growth in the music industry, 99% of it would be gone. I had a debate about this with someone who said BEYONCE was the artist of this decade and i pointed out Ryan Adams was. Main reason, BEYONCE is the Popular artist of the decade, just like the 90's had Mariah Carey, but neither were the artists of the decade, big difference. Ryan exceeds beyonce or pretty much everyone else because he just doesnt give a shit, his craft is making music, and not worrying about what the listener wants. This is why i exclude Beyonce and Mariah from being the "artists" of the decade, they were popular and made catchy songs but they were guided by a chart to what they would create all the time.


Well a lot of people on the org can't hear it, either, so yup - whatever, indeed. Whatever, Alicia.
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Ok so what artists do we honestly see growth in that have come out in this decade? i really would love to see that list? like i said it is what it is, people see growth in Beyonce in the last decade, really? what musical growth has there been? im still hearing the same song since 1998, and sales dont mean dick, i dont care how many she sells, sales dont show growth by any means. I tend to not trust the public since 90% of them said to invade iraq, so my trust in publics opinions is about zero. Artistry is shown by how much you put yourself out there, and where you go with it, Elton John had 17 albums between 1969-1975, no musician, artist whatever could even dream that output, and he also wrote all the music, to taupin's lyrics, and he was considered a POP star.

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