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Thread started 01/18/08 12:09pm

Graycap23

Are music video's dying off?

Where do u guys go 2 watch music video's these days? Are they really that important in relationship 2 sales?
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Reply #1 posted 01/18/08 12:10pm

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I think they are still important towards the success of a single. So yeah.
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Reply #2 posted 01/18/08 12:15pm

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I can never find a station that actually plays videos. If I do stumble upon them, it's usually the top 10 crap that I can't stand anyway. I used to love watching them, but for me it never had anything to do with whether I liked the song or bought the cd. It still may have something to do with single sales though shrug
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Reply #3 posted 01/18/08 12:19pm

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I buy off of itunes and they are fun ..they wont die at all believe me
Download all the shit hop that you can for your kids, neices, nephews, and their friends also. That will prevent them from going out and buying it and will prevent some shit hop sales. Every little bit helps - Andy
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Reply #4 posted 01/18/08 12:26pm

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YouTube. Music Videos on demand. That's the only way. Who has time to sit thru a video show?
Videos are going no where. Many will probably get more laid back and intimate, I hope so. But I hope that the art pieces (Bjork, Madonna etc...) continue, also. I'm sure they will.
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Reply #5 posted 01/18/08 12:31pm

RodeoSchro

I am actively against music videos, unless they're concert performances.
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Reply #6 posted 01/18/08 12:41pm

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One of my favorite new music artists, Mika did a video for each song he released and they were all fantastic and kept getting better and better. He also released a 45 for each one too, which is unheard of.

I don't think videos are dying off. I do think they are coming from a different medium which is the internet.

These two in particular come to mind...




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Reply #7 posted 01/18/08 12:42pm

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RodeoSchro said:

I am actively against music videos, unless they're concert performances.


Why are you actively against videos?

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Reply #8 posted 01/18/08 12:58pm

RodeoSchro

superspaceboy said:

RodeoSchro said:

I am actively against music videos, unless they're concert performances.


Why are you actively against videos?


I think the beauty of song is interpreting it in your own way, and associating it with something important in your life. For instance, ZZ Top's "Balinese" will always represent the night me and the head cheerleader watched submarine races.

I don't really want the artist's (or worse yet, some snotty director's) visual interpretation. I think it's a shame if people associate one of their favorite songs not with their own life experiences, but with a scene-cut-every-second frentic video.
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Reply #9 posted 01/18/08 12:59pm

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As an art form I don't think music videos are dying. But as the marketing tool it once was through MTV and VH1, possibly. But we're still gonna be watching videos even if those networks are slowly descending into hell. And it's all thanks to the internet. wink
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Reply #10 posted 01/18/08 1:11pm

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RodeoSchro said:

superspaceboy said:



Why are you actively against videos?


I think the beauty of song is interpreting it in your own way, and associating it with something important in your life. For instance, ZZ Top's "Balinese" will always represent the night me and the head cheerleader watched submarine races.

I don't really want the artist's (or worse yet, some snotty director's) visual interpretation. I think it's a shame if people associate one of their favorite songs not with their own life experiences, but with a scene-cut-every-second frentic video.


I've seen some very beautiful videos that compliment the song. Some videos have made me like the song even more.

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Reply #11 posted 01/18/08 1:17pm

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For marketing in america at least that have really lost their importance, they are cool for longtime fans who just wanna see the new so and so, and that grew up on videos. But for the most part the "artistic" video makers are gone, very few even make interesting videos any more, and considering the costs and the way things are going now music industry wise, you are really better off saving that cash.

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Reply #12 posted 01/18/08 1:21pm

Graycap23

I find it interesting that Michael jackson made them big....and as his career tailed off, so did videos.
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Reply #13 posted 01/18/08 1:30pm

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Reply #14 posted 01/18/08 1:38pm

RodeoSchro

Graycap23 said:

I find it interesting that Michael jackson made them big....and as his career tailed off, so did videos.


Yeah, but his career tailed off because he went nuts.
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Reply #15 posted 01/18/08 1:53pm

Graycap23

RodeoSchro said:

Graycap23 said:

I find it interesting that Michael jackson made them big....and as his career tailed off, so did videos.


Yeah, but his career tailed off because he went nuts.

Yes.....but regardless of the reason.
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Reply #16 posted 01/18/08 1:58pm

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superspaceboy said:

RodeoSchro said:



I think the beauty of song is interpreting it in your own way, and associating it with something important in your life. For instance, ZZ Top's "Balinese" will always represent the night me and the head cheerleader watched submarine races.

I don't really want the artist's (or worse yet, some snotty director's) visual interpretation. I think it's a shame if people associate one of their favorite songs not with their own life experiences, but with a scene-cut-every-second frentic video.


I've seen some very beautiful videos that compliment the song. Some videos have made me like the song even more.


nod

Bjorks Bachelorette video definitely made me appreciate the song more.

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Reply #17 posted 01/18/08 2:07pm

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lastdecember said:

For marketing in america at least that have really lost their importance, they are cool for longtime fans who just wanna see the new so and so, and that grew up on videos. But for the most part the "artistic" video makers are gone, very few even make interesting videos any more, and considering the costs and the way things are going now music industry wise, you are really better off saving that cash.
Maybe not. Maybe many are only over the sensationalism of it all...especially since the world is becoming more "real", thanks to YouTube and the like. As Spaceboy mentioned, the web is the place to see videos...this means they can be innovative inexpensively. It will probably mean more videos. They don't have to be over the top. Something like this is an even better marketing tool:
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Reply #18 posted 01/18/08 2:55pm

RodeoSchro

Graycap23 said:

RodeoSchro said:



Yeah, but his career tailed off because he went nuts.

Yes.....but regardless of the reason.


It seems to me that Michael went from making music videos to making mini-movies that happened to have a soundtrack.

He's not the only one that went that route.

I honestly am not interested in any music video unless it's a concert video.
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Reply #19 posted 01/18/08 3:29pm

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Graycap23 said:

I find it interesting that Michael jackson made them big....and as his career tailed off, so did videos.


I beg to differ on that. I think all he did was make them longer and into a big production often with Mixed results. I think other people did them better. It also depends on when you consider his career downturned. The 90's were very fruitful where videos are concerned.

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Reply #20 posted 01/18/08 3:30pm

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RodeoSchro said:

Graycap23 said:

I find it interesting that Michael jackson made them big....and as his career tailed off, so did videos.


Yeah, but his career tailed off because he went nuts.


That's not true. I think it's because he fired Quincy.

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Reply #21 posted 01/18/08 3:31pm

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mynameisnotsusan said:

superspaceboy said:



I've seen some very beautiful videos that compliment the song. Some videos have made me like the song even more.


nod

Bjorks Bachelorette video definitely made me appreciate the song more.



All of her videos make me appreciate the song more.

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Reply #22 posted 01/18/08 3:39pm

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superspaceboy said:

mynameisnotsusan said:



nod

Bjorks Bachelorette video definitely made me appreciate the song more.



All of her videos make me appreciate the song more.



drool3 same here
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Reply #23 posted 01/18/08 4:06pm

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superspaceboy said:

One of my favorite new music artists, Mika did a video for each song he released and they were all fantastic and kept getting better and better. He also released a 45 for each one too, which is unheard of.

I don't think videos are dying off. I do think they are coming from a different medium which is the internet.

These two in particular come to mind...





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Reply #24 posted 01/18/08 11:49pm

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paisleypark4 said:

I buy off of itunes and they are fun ..they wont die at all believe me

Man, I can't see myself paying for a music video unless it's on dvd. That's like throwing $2 out of the window. Especially when there are sites like guba.com that has free videos and paid movies.
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Reply #25 posted 01/19/08 2:44am

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Graycap23 said:

I find it interesting that Michael jackson made them big....and as his career tailed off, so did videos.

True. That´s why we need him BACK for so many reasons.
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Reply #26 posted 01/19/08 3:26am

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Yes, they are.
And rumor has it that music experts, in hopes of alleviating the problem,
are gonna try breeding 'em in captivity.
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Reply #27 posted 01/19/08 4:03am

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Graycap23 said:

Where do u guys go 2 watch music video's these days? Are they really that important in relationship 2 sales?


YouTube & Dailymotion
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Reply #28 posted 01/19/08 8:39am

novabrkr

The production budget drops are really visible from the latest batch. lol

I mean just look at the stuff we had in the early part of the decade, it got ridiculous. You couldn't have any kind of hit without a video that cost ten times more than any artist would make from roayalties to recoup them. So it's not just a bad thing for pop music if you consider that aspect of it.

CGI can kiss my ass though.
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Reply #29 posted 01/19/08 4:57pm

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No. I just think the medium in which they are played is though.
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